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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞* J8 y- y/ v& u  L& m
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
' H7 ]- |- Y& S  i; ^. qClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
, ?1 {# V" s6 J0 J  L5 V5 k(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
2 g4 b( U( \2 G; v$ ^- i: K0 K& m葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
0 O1 P+ H# Z/ ]% D, z, {- Z- N( N上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
( s& n0 E# f- j4 p& @她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:% r% e! G. P8 \9 y- F, ?& [

8 n2 A' }( f7 H! e3 b' U" fAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
" z8 u% E% Y8 c* kShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,/ r3 {5 H0 u) ?3 e
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
$ a! _. B) S% [2 Q- k" B# ~& ^to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
$ T' l& s- Y- E! K2 NAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.4 E: ]9 O9 }% L
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
2 }5 w5 C- _+ O! D( C$ ]if we demand He leave us alone?": [6 x! R9 K4 e
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
$ O3 m3 O3 J8 u7 N% x2 K3 J, i只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,5 d8 b3 P" m7 ]
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。7 ?0 q7 Z, p' B& [" A. X' r4 k5 G
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。! g% @- S+ j: }+ @5 d
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,% a6 _" [  p# o# M
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
) p  s' m5 _1 `I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
$ r1 m( K4 t$ y- L4 m' ther body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our- [/ C% @) e( u  O$ Y! |
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in( Y3 R$ G( p8 `7 y9 [3 r
school...
% \4 m5 C! a6 Z; G( `$ V! I7 k4 Mthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,  X% I  X% _- W3 G" ^
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
4 _2 O, B* G, E8 A9 I看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,- p! m1 Q% C- D
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士! g. b9 w7 r$ d! y2 W' `
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,& S/ W; e) M( N6 S% ]9 N
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、& w" X+ I- _7 R0 q9 G* Y% C
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children+ v  e+ w+ U% `4 o
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
6 {4 ^* v2 C1 e- K  sand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed$ D9 C$ O; s" f
suicide)$ W* ^, |1 {+ c1 q" G, g5 A4 S
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
% {, Y' u& n" [! e然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
. H& m% K1 `- E& a: Y2 a- v, L我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,) S. D* P$ s# ]0 A$ I( O
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊3 M1 s' t3 y2 j" j. W; ]
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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1 }# A$ r* C$ H9 v) ]8 O2 BThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
0 _/ v" d8 z& j  y% zchildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member# T4 n- T. Y4 t9 _! \
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave
+ V% Y' g+ L- z3 I9 Ebecause we don 't want any bad publicity,
! R, ]3 _6 {5 x! e, X3 mand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference; Z* M3 ^* L- @+ a
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,$ T( I) O9 D5 r: C" k6 L- M: Z
etc.). And we said OK.4 [, g1 x+ i, @2 E% P6 ]$ I$ \7 z
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,, `/ G5 z/ \- S3 f
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
3 P* b, Z' {! {; m3 ~教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
8 j1 S6 L" V8 d3 O: T更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),
+ T- p0 r) j( H: h# s而大家同意了。: M% ^# Z9 M6 S1 s$ C9 o. g7 V

8 y( n( u+ p) o' k; A& ^Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,0 U& l4 V& _. u4 X
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.1 u% X  k) ~5 v( f3 A
Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
3 y* w! ]2 r9 h4 l# E% x+ Mand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
: m" ?6 n  }6 d/ a: d2 J' \they want so they can have all the fun they desire,$ y; n5 ^' j' J: [% V
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
& m) Y* b: V  b6 xsaid OK.
0 l7 d% n; V" \8 e" n然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,# s& G* h7 ?% N. L6 E( z
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
/ t# w8 e; R/ J: B  t8 v然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,7 }5 j& _3 m& k: y4 X; A
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
# r  j/ M! {/ i6 X+ d4 e* M) v好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
4 g' {( o* e/ N& @8 v; I他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
6 h( b# {* C' I* ~- y% ~what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,9 O9 ~6 f8 H7 l2 _" o2 j, m' O
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
! y' k/ u: r% b/ Ddoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
+ t$ D$ l  Q; n# O2 N0 U然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,$ K2 b& Z5 u) S" r8 @+ I" n- ~, X
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
# q  W9 e+ b( `任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >. w- i* S8 S+ Z# F
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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8 V; }- ^; F( T" h( `2 QThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women% \3 M" C! q- c. m
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
6 O6 q" |0 K) S3 bof the female body. And we said OK.
$ S$ b$ c; \% I; d1 ?然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
) _/ y  o8 V0 g  }, T稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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$ M6 R% ~+ @( [/ Z! E( O( U8 v4 g: A: PAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and4 C: \' P; R2 O8 n
published pictures of nude children and then further again
3 k" e- R" _% Fby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
( I2 z. `, |7 y+ p+ tthey're entitled to free speech.
; U: r% T: \1 g3 K; y然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,5 Y8 X7 m3 {3 b& i' S' ~
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,; D: ~6 m' c* l5 `+ z- i
他們這樣做是言論自由。
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; c( W! m- U" [( S/ z. IThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
/ F# c  h* ^- ?% P( B; Cthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
8 Q. M3 B7 F2 Gthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.! x* a$ x) F# p- m1 a" m1 I/ o
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
9 B: a7 Q0 ~, }) i5 `; o4 a: [nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.7 r9 C7 {: Z3 w( u2 b
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、! t+ s- d1 t: R6 q, H" V
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、% G* C+ k9 l9 `! E- Y, f9 n" X+ y; x
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:0 \4 T; Y2 ~* E7 Y* y
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
5 b, J) n8 h; ?1 c' O" wwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
6 G& }3 I5 G8 C* h$ ~to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
  C/ s1 _# R; t/ {if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.4 Y; t) }4 V. N! U" |* |
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."7 P0 {) W( i) u' C- L8 {
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
% Y% m6 J0 i6 G9 A+ y+ v/ K! G) \. g為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
0 |# T5 I, M1 g, `) `) A6 s為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
8 p% }- E  p0 @: u/ `( M" t. J) S& Z假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。9 R$ E: H8 X6 |5 w* i) |
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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! Q( k, }# E% O3 ?Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
7 e5 b6 n& S6 ?# nwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers* \' d8 k; c1 @
say, but question what the Bible says.
' u/ Q* \0 N- {' z實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。" j  ~1 p6 f$ u  _( ~* s: k* ~
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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' U2 T5 _4 E; J6 |# l; L. H9 GFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like8 ~4 ?. K: e6 y
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
. h0 k4 A  r8 m3 I  Ypeople think twice about sharing.' ~( |: I  O  h* |
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
% C- X8 M$ e* `但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
7 L7 g7 e9 z0 I( P  k人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely# d4 \2 B0 J) y  m6 u. K! S7 j) E
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
! B4 e" b7 D5 S* b! I  |in the school and workplace.' a! d3 ]6 u, g
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章  B) P% p+ Z2 v+ j: \2 y
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;5 Q, a$ g" _. M6 h" i( m3 }
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。% Z" C% [9 x, h  A

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Are you laughing?
/ _6 @# [2 q* E, \你笑了嗎?
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it% w8 ]1 B- l  w9 W; P
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,; H5 L( C! v8 }- I6 s8 ?+ G" V; w
or what they WILL think of you for sending it., x" ~7 l3 [& y. Z% V4 u
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
- E; Y5 g: |7 Mthan what God thinks of us.
( [. B" o3 _) d/ ?: Y* j好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,2 q+ w+ Z+ {/ X4 n
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
' ?  i0 ~. R5 D% D" \或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
$ S; k! ]! g, z* ?% m/ L- W可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
/ i% O, q2 k) P6 O而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
: ]2 O  w  ?( i3 m+ I" K2 V6 w9 X/ Yno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
+ [3 y4 d7 ?3 E2 i$ k" psit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
+ C7 d* F, V7 v* E把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話
# B; M% [" H0 K6 j: Q7 Y- ~: s) v若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,6 c5 g9 ~: ^' n9 q
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
  \' T3 p# U3 U$ @+ ~) i你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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4 w. S  W  s( j& U5 ^* W上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。& B, E% X6 c: n2 W& p
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
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有道理啊。
大型搬家
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。+ q) d1 ~) g; X$ ?; A) [+ X
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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6 E' D2 a. J/ _0 R所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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! v( z' _* X7 W社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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