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请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

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发表于 2011-10-3 10:02 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗?从老云的帖子里面看时这样的,但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢?) A  p8 V% j0 l% @: X

" p5 ]( q' ~$ Q3 i( c( u另外,有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么?肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧?
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google上找了半天无解,所以上来请教。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:06 | 显示全部楼层
I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.7 m0 T3 ?' p. J
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Ha Ling Peak
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2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta% u( G) P( B" P
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                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                               
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" ^% H" |; I4 B# F7 r; @# U                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; 8 R: D% y; K* E2 _  F; [# T
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Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates; v- b, Y0 z* ~) [1 u
                                                               
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                                                                                                Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore$ u: |6 \  t# d% Q. H
                                       
- G& T' v7 c/ C$ _& m                                                                        Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=].
- |! \! i. P( IThis mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year.
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However this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10.
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Both stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be?2 O% H- f0 {1 P+ i+ O2 f7 U, H

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[url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                               
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Scrambling Routes                                       
An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:09 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 billzhao 于 2011-10-3 10:14 编辑 & b9 X0 o' ^2 X7 s  |( t
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谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:18 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
It is said to be the best trail in Canada.
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:29 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kingsnake 于 2011-10-3 11:32 编辑
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) S2 @& M: ~) I& ?5 X這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
6 i+ }) e3 u) m! @! P之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:37 | 显示全部楼层
這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子,在 5 小時 30 分内,打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
9 I! e; M, a1 m0 k; _- g之前,因為不知道他的名字,又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.9 }; w. {. n9 }% N
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29

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除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外,还有其他来源吗?/ N4 A  H- T/ w+ e% G" Q- N
那么,Ha ling 姓林名海?
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发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 放风儿 于 2011-10-3 11:42 编辑 " Y! s' G- w" I0 x4 i2 @
谢谢frank,这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧,听说是个很Popular的hiking trail,同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
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% F* p/ G( p9 t/ W( s) H# S" B实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak,但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi,所以知道此山不算难。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39 | 显示全部楼层
凌海吗?
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 10:42 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路,首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时,现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路,但是属于很容易的入门级。
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入门级更好了,
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-3 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2011-10-3 23:22 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!* G2 E8 T5 x! N0 k+ o
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他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。6 N* U/ v( n' d' q: ]6 ~6 u
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Ha Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的,还有海莲峰的,这就差得比较远。我不会广东话,所以只好猜测这个Ha,其实是姓“夏”,Ling,可能就是“岭”,或者“灵”“陵”“翎”,这个就无从判断了。# Z2 p0 J- b4 Q! x0 n3 C

0 O5 a; _& p. y: Q如果一定要翻,我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”,听着比较顺口。9 }* I$ @" {' i  U& l1 m! H

5 K' J* h: y* a3 Z% j+ d你这个问题,或者马健威会有标准答案吧!呵呵。
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 楼主| 发表于 2011-10-4 08:44 | 显示全部楼层
1886年的时候,加拿大的华人,遑论中文原名,能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧!& ]  ^! A  u( X

- a2 s, K/ P" V: j他们没有政治地位,没有经济地位,他们只是劳工,如同奴隶一般的劳工。# I$ L5 d; {+ A* G! ?$ G

1 ]- E* N7 b6 z* UHa Ling Peak,很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...3 e# \% |2 p" r3 T7 J
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22
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謝謝,有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了,只是好奇而已。
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$ e9 T2 ]3 H  l4 {& z& d+ @; ~8 V在找到真名之前,先叫他夏靈吧。
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