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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.) V& p1 Q- D( i0 _0 m% ^9 |4 E4 A; C
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ) G, t$ A$ N+ A  ?) _

9 I. K: u' f% ZThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 1 A1 v. y% O+ \6 t% C

: {# L, `1 W/ }8 l8 E4 g9 e  H$ }( G"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. * q9 S* z% o) Y5 K; B5 D

: X  f5 A* }& HNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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2 ^$ w. y9 \0 E& p+ ~5 D3 hTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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' @0 Z6 V7 s" `& j7 e. @) J"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 |7 C: [1 D3 z
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。1 p* q! O  U( E' l9 }
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。, f8 f( L0 V. v3 }, A4 t
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
7 W6 _* i8 g# W8 }3 B跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
; O9 C+ n( a. i" }4 f* n, P; HWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its) z) A; l- J% D+ Z
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton  x* w3 G2 l: J3 P
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
3 l" s0 c$ p/ t  p$ t$ _2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" g' b% Y/ M' Q! F
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided: Y: D; Z1 a% J! j( y
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,* X1 p3 Z. e, {3 }+ Z
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
* g# L9 s$ S2 F2 j; N+ mmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous; Z9 C) Y6 h; }' y! X5 @2 Z" [5 U
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed- n$ g$ X7 f" M
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined* j3 |* ?2 R- O
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year( Y7 R! ~, ?& ^% m% W/ `( t
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this! }/ B2 b; z9 X+ `
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,4 d; @$ \. h; l# Q8 v
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
) [$ z1 M0 K( n/ D8 C! P30,000 new households will form in the province during
( t( O- L( p2 y' ~2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.1 C8 N/ D2 w( w
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
( f) V" N% W& a. e9 rhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
# w% f& @& X5 P4 P" @during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
8 ^4 ]- a( l( lhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new: t" X" S! l3 l8 j
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals2 O8 Y3 [7 L- g' z0 e) v1 G6 y# G
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
3 {. Q/ ~  G5 q5 Qexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
& p9 f. i* h( |9 X+ b; d% b# v1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a7 K' }. R3 [0 j$ O
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 r1 [& K# F) _# P: o6 ]  _) H) r
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
- P: D2 \: c* Y2 O. S1 G/ y1 [two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, g! p& a, q7 U0 u0 Uunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; J$ f) j9 A  F' ]# P' N+ n# f
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
& g8 l. f( M. O: Q. o; B9 zrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
" p4 E' j2 @8 q# o- M' |4 cresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
2 @+ ?6 ?' K: L0 _6 I: R' W% {: mmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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8 \" \$ s3 p% I1 U5 ]rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
* b7 f. z4 R+ z% U8 _The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
8 U# s4 ?9 R2 V( \$ |boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
+ F3 F4 [& q! J1 W8 Q3 uAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan7 x6 }9 C* `6 o8 y3 ]
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced2 ]5 F# a) x& T8 F
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale! H) _5 e; C3 g: H# f2 J
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
; l2 c& x6 e" P: a+ \The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
; ^' o9 X' B( k- a2 a$ ^# h( nresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’+ h) f$ u. l6 D& f; k& g' {5 j) J* f
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
& \/ r5 C( l$ ]( N9 G# \$ `Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%" v! V" _0 [& Z0 X
leg down over 2009.9 g6 N4 Y( m0 ]! o# i
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% p, i/ j  i5 _3 w
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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