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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.; e* X' j( C; _9 _+ b

6 r# J; q" b6 F4 c) qTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.   _# `) j8 E* S; k( Q6 D

, h* f3 ?1 g3 P) C8 L. B; V/ XThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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9 s) S# ], p4 B( ?. ^. t0 \$ I' u"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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9 X3 T5 F7 s0 `  z+ C4 jNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.$ j2 G! \: n3 g; K

" ^- n. u( u  Q0 L"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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, W3 Y2 u, ]0 `, `5 B+ }9 FTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 ]/ e- L: k; R( m) j

/ |  h' {3 ?: e" t% v9 FMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 9 s' C' W7 g! E4 i- D/ M, L1 i+ X% T# ]

: A( U/ c7 Y5 o# Whttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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1 g7 l  w7 H7 mTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
* [! P- F  V- T# H+ D3 S7 S  T( e 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。7 ~  S1 d4 m9 E4 A5 ^) X0 D2 Q5 s

% s. Q, g, v7 w7 Q1 P8 V[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 : j. ~, Y# W4 T" N% E: B
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
8 v7 q2 [0 X. d3 h: r嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
: m5 L1 r$ T) {9 aWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its. Y) P/ @: Q, h" T/ n
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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$ `0 G4 q8 r" q6 ^( ]% a2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
# J! B$ [4 `1 Y( `formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided2 w9 c5 q$ ], {
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
* a' t/ X; w+ Z' T3 T, tthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and& G+ y( T! Q' }* G2 x8 s  V$ K
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous4 u& o6 V* Y5 [* n
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: e8 e$ \1 Y2 X& ?precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined) o6 O% w7 n% {8 Q
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
7 S- j3 _2 K) g: E7 {prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this7 M- f- [1 Q8 g* F5 K
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
* m/ z# r+ w; {1 Y- fhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
3 F3 u& H4 O5 L+ t6 K30,000 new households will form in the province during) k. K  P0 |- T* {
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
4 K1 m3 r8 M9 C) O2 rEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
# T8 S. ~/ R2 d3 |" Ahomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%) E* e& p5 n% H. B3 A
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
, _  Y" l% i* V$ C# Q$ b/ |+ \" Whas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new3 z. E- e8 V7 ^. k3 R' F
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals0 H" e" ~  x8 B- C
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
2 ~8 H! ]) B: ^& s3 c) a" ?8 esales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
4 ~6 c( ?: `+ S! H! @0 L, Y9 ^clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
# N  `: G; {9 L* A# ~- Qexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of5 w1 Z9 S% R5 v* r3 [! W1 ]* v
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a, B6 p  @' E9 P4 I  R( e/ K, X  G, d
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive" l# q4 L  C! R! ]
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in( }0 x: ^) E4 ?; b
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
+ j0 f# k0 `, B* ]- q- Q$ t5 l6 N, }unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7471 p7 p3 ^6 H2 w+ t% H) |1 t
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest, v3 ]& n7 |7 q/ ?! R! n
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
% O- u" }: R/ D) S( O/ Rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
% y; p6 w$ Q1 e+ U+ W" Z0 N% Xmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
2 n, \& E) ?; VThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s* y% J' w7 |/ t; z$ L# R
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.5 }6 z+ \+ a0 |0 r; ~
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
( v+ ~/ V, k5 ], }housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
; X6 f3 p2 r; I7 O- A" U7 |, J9 J- H3 trelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
7 ~) S9 D+ P6 r, n" eprices substantially eroded affordability and, even: T0 j/ w0 }7 Z$ E
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners) o' `! d4 T! X* `
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.  s, R# W3 {' Y: S9 U
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
  M$ k0 n+ ^6 Eresale price in February is evidence that past prices( k1 E! i! n2 o+ t- M/ G6 K
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
1 T5 O7 y" E. D; f& ]) Y, L% C  xhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’) F; k9 k5 ^8 U2 S4 p" _
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
/ n( y6 w+ E3 L  |Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%( E4 q# }7 {: ]
leg down over 2009.1 g9 j0 i- D6 ~
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% o2 H0 F+ }9 [
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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$ X) J- m' B5 t! ~http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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