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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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/ }. y" i% ]$ M4 Z. RThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 2 `  }6 F+ f+ S1 }+ H; G+ [

  h2 ~8 [. |& {1 ?" ?3 Y( }8 y6 Z"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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/ T/ [% T+ D( [2 o5 ENow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.2 V* K8 b3 R* V: S' d- h

: g+ Y: l" N- y. a/ ~6 O" A1 o3 t( |, OTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.9 J7 v& N8 X3 `# S2 L

( ]& e* n& f5 b2 K9 j"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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* A! D  q4 y+ `& T* P: I6 nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ V, C4 S7 u4 S

% {3 i/ Y8 Q( {" |' F' P8 IMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. & }6 s, n% P1 O5 N: F7 Y4 |; {3 B

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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) r8 H& Y+ l6 b. D! l# {TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,9 E4 M2 B3 S& B! t

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。/ v$ ]) ?8 @2 v! A
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 - Q0 `$ \- N8 [
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了5 o: E5 n1 E, B: d: q4 p
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
" n2 V* Z5 u* i: iWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its1 y. l" b# Z1 h! M
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" x/ Z4 m- p! z8 ]
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided: W  }' ^+ \$ ~/ E
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
/ j5 ^, C& ?( R/ M9 c% P/ Dthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and7 }: p( v2 I8 L* `  c  Z$ z2 Y7 K5 S
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous: z. M7 I! L8 p
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed6 |$ E$ |4 X$ b; a
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined& \: h: A7 T5 q5 b$ d
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
5 i' a5 g. `# O! h4 qprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this) n* t  n, z% S( @7 s* J
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
4 Y# i  d3 \6 [% U/ ^$ \. Ghomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around5 ~6 B. ~/ S. i& ^
30,000 new households will form in the province during7 ?& m- q4 U' j7 c6 y* c' G; t
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.* e* G/ G9 ?4 L6 l
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
! e$ ?9 [- x  Q, K6 M5 ^homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
9 E2 m. N8 m# c9 rduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
( U* q6 a( p4 H3 thas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
9 h8 d0 ~& `* o5 B) s; l7 |households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
/ k' i" p* ?+ R7 F3 [6 zduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
# P. F( W1 B! ~6 W! s+ Xsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
2 A7 D: X% A1 E* @$ p- n- iclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is- g3 r3 j% Q! \6 `
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of! g4 Y4 a0 L7 P
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a% _- @$ H; b/ C: Q' ], g- p
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
1 x; W, H5 y8 R/ }buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
2 E" p6 y4 U; _) f$ }& X9 I- Utwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in- \4 p$ R# {/ G
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
! u) m. N/ H( n0 O( y. P' junsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
; v4 @1 S  O. Z1 o5 L; Grecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
* r; G' k7 m/ r2 fresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s, J8 m: C  W- f. J
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- t* l2 O4 k$ A: V9 [! e  {
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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* R# s2 K2 z  fThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
$ V  Z9 x9 o& U6 I, f# [boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
! B! [. X+ p7 g8 Z+ u1 F% P$ xAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
! n8 E7 G$ K+ W1 k- {* H4 L+ f7 Bhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced* _/ [/ o" F) r3 L1 \/ i' I& V
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale6 _$ Q  H8 h) g6 ~( ?6 E% ~- T
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even! ]9 s3 ^' o# ?  E. w: r1 P2 n
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
4 M7 t, z- u/ h9 J* U0 ]on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
/ ]- b4 Y% T+ x$ s- [: AThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average, [' {- n& v2 o1 Y9 m4 N# a- ]! e: K0 _
resale price in February is evidence that past prices# y9 ?4 [) H; Q' z! o
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
$ A5 D; A- G* ahomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’! Z, n1 Y& e' |7 B) D
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
) n) J( M! Y- a4 g" Y9 }0 a% WAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%) Q3 ~) ]. D! S  m+ z( C
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,) d( D1 s, s! j+ K$ w, A; x
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 2 x: p$ n0 x" a# c- S
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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