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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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, D2 f$ c* ~2 a* x$ y& FTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 0 M; [5 o  V$ Q) A1 X6 S
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " ]6 Y. z' A( _! W

: s# h' S& g' BNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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9 {8 K$ P/ J1 Y/ O1 p. XTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  j  w* u* O; J% I6 x

' L( C" d7 B. p, M" u. n. a) T"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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1 I4 u& G: f0 w+ F* [TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.  F& r6 c- M  V
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ( e! F/ h: {+ Y! z. `4 W" H

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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8 t. Q. f5 h# M: F8 \  q  PTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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4 j# u2 D9 |" i* u9 b( t. v! @[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。' [! K( ^/ g6 N5 j) P
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
1 o+ {1 w7 F7 Z跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

* d! a# p6 j/ g2 ?. x6 n很多人都回学校深造去了0 G" r3 I! B1 T* y( y0 c
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
% y3 [( B8 x+ k6 r9 u; DWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its0 r( o1 I) h  \( `
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
+ C- p. t, c4 u9 r/ s) aare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
( M1 ?) H' H5 Q3 j% D$ ]2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household; X3 e% T! L# L0 g- d2 N: P
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
0 a& T2 d: I: x% g" Afrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
2 p& Y! U, K9 A& B  R! [the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and) X- }  |) d( c; x1 F4 f
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous: _; a# {3 |  w% }+ e, t) W' c
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
  p, v7 N! ^6 a0 o" {precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
  i) Y- ]0 ?6 d7 ?& a  G/ Zto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
( X3 O4 {* y5 Dprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this$ H- `- N/ F- f2 T& O; X9 z
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
4 G* x6 ?; [0 Z1 j5 H; Qhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
( N+ i, c& ]! T* p# N# C6 ~30,000 new households will form in the province during
; X8 N# X, X: z' M0 @/ u2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
) f% t) [9 A' ?Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s- @, v& M. q( M$ X( j
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
' f2 u; H/ x6 X. _, Yduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta& r' ~' f# |' z' w. ?$ v- F$ R
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new4 f3 J. w/ z' T4 n6 b
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
( H: J# v8 r% X1 ~# g+ T0 p7 {  Nduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging* u. N, ]2 j" e7 U
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
5 H1 H1 K9 w. U: i3 Z* k1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
8 E# L. w5 l# y$ K! Q, o( }sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive+ d+ h/ X, ?+ G' M1 B8 t. q
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
2 h. l6 H4 D# q% ]: jtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in& N" {& ]0 L4 z9 y$ D$ ]2 r
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
* U/ Y2 K# }+ d- Punsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest' ?5 p1 V3 w! b) Q
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
4 j$ p! x1 z& D% Oresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s+ g7 D$ V, J. Z& U
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories) |( v, y6 \1 w% @; M0 \) u0 k
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled: F/ Q2 {& A2 {( p4 ^  z
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.( p& w) c' X9 X# P9 K: B; S1 j8 E. w
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s( m7 S1 K, g8 q* l& R6 r# I0 n+ G
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
, |) [4 T* Y. n" ^* DAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan4 G" v8 G# h8 `* j8 Z* p
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced4 m, a; G& \$ O5 ^, F& G" T( \) P3 ]
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
, ^+ e  E5 h: l+ B; Kon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
; y0 m4 N3 B* f- u9 c" qThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
# S  Y& K/ q9 C0 v4 P2 i# [! Z: }resale price in February is evidence that past prices
! h+ Y, x: b  _+ W+ U7 \exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove# s  ^% Q* ]! Z' A1 G6 G7 M2 f
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’5 i* O/ M' L. Y- o
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
" ?! x: D) N% g$ `# \Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%: ?4 P# V6 j7 U/ e. j2 N
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,; y" z) H, K" x7 r
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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. g3 e  W  ]5 T5 x( e2 Q9 f' mhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments. T( T9 z' e: {0 J

# S' a& T5 X7 l( O% G1 M( y[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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