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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.2 X$ q$ }/ S! z. G9 W8 {7 ~' L  x! h0 l

2 Q3 R: o, l& rTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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5 G* J! p8 J8 c! H: }The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 1 y0 X) U) @* ]
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.; J$ F: |4 J3 C2 T1 }+ t5 ?

6 E+ G) n, U/ |. D2 k+ O' LTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ! g" d9 l* f6 A$ Y3 w) W/ d
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.# j5 n6 i' p$ [
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 7 a6 V+ [3 b6 f$ U8 U5 j5 L

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,9 [$ o9 n# |' H9 X" F$ n3 `

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。6 }" R. ~& e9 g
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
! t, t. M* _; n7 B& L* O6 g. O跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
. I8 s( R2 z# T! r1 C' I& FWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
6 k2 \1 v  @; h' |boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
* K5 ^6 a2 w# q, z1 Qare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
3 I4 z, e7 {5 C) n  H) a/ Y( h! L2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
' b5 A0 J! S1 d* Y# `# R! ]9 x( _formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided. q2 V2 |' K# p; O4 J
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,& m; r/ d9 I8 g  I
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
; Z( J+ w! Y# _8 v* s6 P' d4 omay even cease completely during 2009. The previous0 T4 y. \. n* L
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: O" i: ]: a1 C) U# i$ y8 q/ dprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined+ N& Y3 e4 l9 N# m4 D
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
0 z) Q0 ]) ^! I1 N: jprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this% v% _9 p4 |+ @- O
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,# t3 }' ]8 N# c; `8 ~
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
! i3 b" z+ E7 E2 M30,000 new households will form in the province during
9 `$ k1 B% h4 _& J2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.( p4 A3 e6 U& I' G& h4 W
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s) c  ^4 Q# p0 g
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%) G/ x( F! {' c$ q$ V/ L- d  }
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
- y+ N3 _0 l/ ~. ?  F) ~) \2 ~has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
5 Z" r3 n' J* ^$ Q$ i" vhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals% H( _* s$ D, b5 E: p! B7 Q, d
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
' @& h6 |, c& B0 O" Qsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories; _8 y# q: F5 ]7 Y" l
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
" ]% T/ [' Q2 r6 h# [4 Wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
" N1 @# Q3 c% x8 H* m4 S  n/ j* i# n1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
! ~' f8 v* ?$ e$ Csales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive8 s( b# F$ F! Q' ]; }) ^
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in; \  O; i: E. r+ \; N
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
& r5 x. ]6 l) x, u0 G; Eunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747" z, O* T- u) B; }' F
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
2 }4 F* o! C0 @  G# z" J% g# Rrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the6 \* s+ \4 N+ r8 c* f, t
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
" `8 U; a7 r+ |+ Z0 ^: f) q0 Gmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.- w" |  d& j3 Q% ~8 Q! L5 v! a3 n
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
+ _- R% E2 o/ w) {& r1 j( b7 Fboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic./ ~% N; h5 l. @3 D0 q
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
) p9 N: @- R% Y# Qhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
/ X7 F( z$ _0 R" hrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale% a& K. y! q" V% w4 h
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
; q3 c. w" x7 k9 n" A  Cthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
6 k0 B; b* C9 v. e. T7 [. @on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.# s" a8 N2 _: |: B
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average& H$ f% H3 \5 A
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’; W+ k+ c  u1 w. x* A! U7 H  A
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
# |( G7 d8 i1 ~# W9 Y! sAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%4 W- u. K" R; {% @
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' t/ X. l, F2 Q$ @
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments, e  o, O* F3 m% s

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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