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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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! I7 B* G! E6 E! `4 MTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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  C- _; [  o: O: s"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.# t: F! c9 y9 y
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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) v( @; J/ K! j1 Y: C"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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& |9 `1 i! b1 pTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 a- z# L( }6 _' E: V8 `6 d! r

; c) I( _; B& zMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
5 \) V" |/ l( i+ I- P 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表   @& a5 y+ N8 Y$ V0 U8 x
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
: N+ l' p( J! u* i. |; R2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
* k) j5 R- P  c  o1 xformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
* R! q9 X) o* E9 pfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
$ h2 E7 n; }, @3 u9 P- uthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
9 O6 j4 j, w# }7 e) f, F3 Gmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous9 A3 c6 N- \2 W, a) F
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
2 C$ X* N+ s! L! fprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined$ t! L: x2 P7 d8 ^
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
' I9 ?3 t' N3 C% G; c% }prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this% D; O# V! h4 X3 M
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,- d% B: x4 @1 l9 u, B1 B
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around1 p% I6 F2 \2 t% x$ `; V
30,000 new households will form in the province during" ^! K3 I, K  m
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.8 _2 k3 S' E. T. e: q7 t
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s2 p% N9 D; b& a0 F
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
8 U: Q. w0 D- [8 @/ a+ J9 o( p0 pduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  a& t& r, x0 T
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new0 k* K6 ]+ s1 n/ F
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
1 P' X) e/ ?2 Y) J8 E. N& A8 u8 Wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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! |9 d' t- g5 P" [! ksales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive0 Y$ \; S: |% x3 u; J
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747% P6 a9 r& ^  p/ o, U0 _3 x
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest- z: _. B. N3 b* W
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the- \$ i! x+ J9 k  i+ e. [
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
  d! H9 H: t+ z# J; l  xrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
/ ]8 _" s8 i8 \% M& uprices substantially eroded affordability and, even. _- i2 l2 v3 _
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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2 ^3 \5 K' L5 ?5 ]7 e% g( {The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
. ]% m7 h1 n  B1 kresale price in February is evidence that past prices5 n1 i( `( w- W: r7 v/ [
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
" L+ B" b; L6 @' ehomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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