I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache' l' |# ~. I) I: `
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Calm down everyone please. / s7 d- N* `) J4 V% e% w: e. f: b5 ?3 M) j& B4 r
不存在 can mean two different things:; i2 ]& E9 R# ?
* m% N$ D" q' ] `& F+ Q1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.# a: x1 U& W. j- u$ D
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 4 @7 \- G/ v4 ^ w Z [ / D ?7 J# G, r" {1 {) f H( i: e& hI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ; m3 Z. W$ J% ~: N' t, ~. y2 _2 D$ v" k' U. Q$ F% M1 \
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原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表2 ?5 P" J) ^: h3 w" S5 y! Z r
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache2 d* L' _2 W, O
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Calm down everyone please. , O: A/ Y2 Y! T! N0 q3 |! d- T' s! }2 g" u3 ]) z0 c
不存在 can mean two different things:: b p b. a) f* i z5 l- F" s
, u/ Q- B* e% Y1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. # N9 E2 c4 t8 x* `5 @; @2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头. C6 y! d( @1 M" }: r0 D
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
原帖由 ︶ㄣ|._紸禵麯゛ 于 2006-6-8 13:19 发表 5 p6 M. C% j- ]0 |4 e* L0 ibalubalu,别人跟大家分享自己的宗教信仰关你屁事啊!& o4 e6 D+ u! p; h, i# X7 x7 D( P
你不赞成你就自己去信你自己那个什么狗屎balu教。, V3 O3 n: f6 P/ n
你妈的。。。自己滚回老家去吃屎。乱七八糟吐一堆屎。 . ~0 h A+ ?( m a% P2 e别人的意见不需要你来评价,你是什么?你以为你是 ...
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4 f0 s5 o( F/ u/ `: F Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way? " o$ q) c& ~" p1 @ ~/ W: C6 ]0 aIf you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
. H5 L" C7 V, ~8 ^# K9 _; Y( | " c$ b( T V( Q2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! 0 R1 T D0 c9 g% B7 w. W * x! X7 a) e1 O. f9 U- YAt least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
# I8 Y- {# T% H" q, Y( ` % J' l# F2 E8 X) P% o9 aArguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) 4 g7 R1 C6 M' D% P5 M. b" [$ V0 P0 G5 z0 W. e, R1 J
Maybe we should stop argument. ( g. s+ O: ~" [+ m- K
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My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion : h l6 o: g g% \5 D4 \- I2 v , G1 J% W/ M2 J: t[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 11:28 编辑 ]