I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache6 t0 s$ f9 X, e# _8 L! q L. S: {. }
4 h* s: `' n: y& \; UCalm down everyone please. - p( _5 P5 N; I8 a, r& d/ Y6 L
不存在 can mean two different things:/ z% c7 t4 f: B5 \& B6 W& T
" e: j$ Y: y7 X+ ^: f1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.; _- a) u, B$ j6 d
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头) {7 S" q" h% \- }: g
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表% F- x$ s+ y6 w# Y* n
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache 3 P8 `" @" g E# d4 v4 g' v3 ]( u) j% ?
Calm down everyone please.- J4 x0 J7 m% @1 y
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不存在 can mean two different things: t/ `5 v: {# n; k
4 H& p |/ ^$ I9 A7 h: j% u1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. + U. m3 m/ }; e) s. \1 M, p2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头, U5 ^; o. @$ }2 X
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
9 ]$ D+ Y3 D2 ~% y7 K7 H. \- e- Z) P Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way?) @" q% W4 y# y
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
) i! l7 t4 Y7 P$ ?2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! : G4 l0 j7 v& E/ n! ~ 4 H; N' j* ]: N& ?At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.8 @9 S; c" Y9 `" w0 h
4 }6 G& i& C1 I5 F2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!( t+ V$ x9 S/ F- N: e+ \
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
% a' Z8 Q2 C. d% y1 R# M & z! |! E" {$ r7 U5 M# `那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years)" G0 k% }2 `5 g( I' H- z- }4 t4 L
/ W. { A( @% M/ s( G' hMaybe we should stop argument. 6 f6 R$ ^# O/ m& m" E3 H: N j% P2 I: a3 | y
My commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion 3 W0 w$ E1 m1 ]- ]7 n) R4 |8 A# k7 C5 i; q$ p
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