I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache; Q+ \3 w' ~2 Q
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Calm down everyone please. * }5 D9 R4 x( T) q- ?" ^ 2 I8 X0 h( e5 w' E( M+ `不存在 can mean two different things:) j/ d, m7 x( F7 {
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1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. % _8 r8 v$ s1 |2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头" ~0 t+ Z7 E+ ?9 g, O0 m5 L
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist 4 s- j; k, |' E* q/ b4 _* [, p+ q7 H& `
[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:29 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表; g% ~: Z; C, Y" n% S* G
I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache x' b/ I" `: D7 m V, T( D + r" m5 w) q7 c3 B- v- n/ P3 Q% iCalm down everyone please. 2 Q/ j: E" i. {* g - c5 x4 u& A3 H9 r9 {不存在 can mean two different things: 4 ~& s1 A/ }6 |& L ! B2 f) ^2 v# O( a1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.+ O# t; A, H$ ^4 ]# }4 E% c" N
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 ; W7 Q8 `3 I* X! _* ]! W: T) V+ S: Y: t$ t2 U; \
I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
" {9 f3 @/ u) }' i$ aDid your GOD ask you to curse people this way?7 Z1 J* E, v$ V/ g& p: V$ r
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表6 }. p. x3 \& E0 F" z
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!. t5 w9 S5 T: B+ o
6 ^; g$ m- k% {+ q3 P. ~1 L! ^At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
7 a5 P }; Y& {9 U * [* M' {6 X0 f' A9 v那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years). i" F& a4 w$ I
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Maybe we should stop argument. . X# g! _$ W+ J; h6 o
8 s7 L( U* S N( F4 D* T1 CMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion) B0 r; P' U- u2 J* B6 H