I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache $ B7 W$ T2 v$ u. o2 e8 D8 w9 I |9 C" h( H' N
Calm down everyone please.. g5 Z3 S+ k( Q. O9 F+ S% X
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不存在 can mean two different things: ' H: ^: C' e# n, N$ W, a( k, L3 Y% |- N4 d
1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.) ^% J; a) R) |1 ^ L7 u
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头6 I7 D9 [# s4 @& E+ k9 j& k
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I assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist # |1 ?' _( g* V! t. i D: y# m + b2 L, x) Z. S! n8 i4 s[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:29 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表 ) s: k4 m/ i5 t6 wI would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache % V6 A5 Y2 M2 {+ c/ v- I) z; m; H. ? ' `- F6 k! ~8 I& d$ Y9 V) @" A- f" kCalm down everyone please. 1 ]8 g+ S4 Z' f8 r, B, M+ v2 t3 B9 c- w9 _* L
不存在 can mean two different things: J9 \% O3 ?# P( v# b( Q/ j8 N% }/ M6 a$ u& @
1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.7 E' T& Q0 v9 H0 t( O& |$ C* v
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头+ S: N+ v7 m# r5 W5 m
$ W0 s3 I# s, i, o" uI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
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小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
原帖由 ︶ㄣ|._紸禵麯゛ 于 2006-6-8 13:19 发表 ; p+ ~$ Y! Q, Vbalubalu,别人跟大家分享自己的宗教信仰关你屁事啊!- Q0 t2 {" t7 S7 o$ I
你不赞成你就自己去信你自己那个什么狗屎balu教。 / \. L j/ s) T- b5 h你妈的。。。自己滚回老家去吃屎。乱七八糟吐一堆屎。* J# [7 Z @- y( N
别人的意见不需要你来评价,你是什么?你以为你是 ...
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6 o, D1 J* b9 C' K* {/ X: dDid your GOD ask you to curse people this way?* R, |* b" O9 D4 ]6 H# K" |0 A
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 10:55 发表 4 l8 S6 L; p1 `8 N1 S4 d8 t/ Y, L; B
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2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!!' t0 K4 C S* X$ ^4 }, D
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At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) ; H; Q4 D& S& q) h6 {# p% f, \4 ?0 p, p5 K* {& n: B4 V' J$ n/ T7 W
Maybe we should stop argument. 1 T1 [, `# C6 e) S8 R ; y6 T- ~( s) s/ w; E8 |( NMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion8 ^1 _5 L! R2 i7 ~3 C1 h5 P1 p: E
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