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肉麻怎么说啊?

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发表于 2008-1-11 07:35 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-10 08:54 发表 ) U  q6 \6 \3 ]) q
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7 i+ G( ?+ U6 }0 m  `当然,但是我觉得从矫揉造作这个中文去找英文,pose还是很妥当的。
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其实cheesy这个词也有别的意思,和肉麻涵盖的范围并不是完全一致的,只是我“研究”至今的最近词汇。油油有啥高见?

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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:
" z5 e& z/ H. N. ~( ~& n; ?what about clichéd or hackneyed, are they closer? They both mean something by "overuse" but the end results still seem to difer from when I use 肉麻
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-11 12:51 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:40 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表 : o# [8 U1 L9 u
The following is what I found about definition of cheesy :  q7 Z1 x' u, l3 u
1. of or like cheese: a cheesy aroma; a cheesy taste.  $ J. t/ L  k* R6 I  y8 ~
2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...
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% j" \( L7 h$ }/ z- s/ w4 M& a* p/ b( nhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive, for words like "cheesy", this slang dic can give you a much better idea of its real meaning than traditional ones.! o: }+ b5 {) e( U  c
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发表于 2008-1-11 14:49 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 OliveOil 于 2008-1-11 07:35 发表 5 U8 O9 o+ [  P& x; P

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3 a+ ^  y1 R" O8 D5 C# |; v3 MI really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:, M) @$ m, L0 N
what about clichéd ...

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cliché really means overused, predictable, 陈词滥调, 了无新意.  for example, in chinese shows, to imply that a woman is pregnant , she will always suddenly rush into the washroom and start to vomit, that's a cliche scene. so cliche!
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5 \, G. m7 I  k& H- C8 Zso far I think "cheesy" is really THE word, as per the slang dic.
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发表于 2008-1-11 18:58 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表
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have you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...

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发表于 2008-1-11 22:03 | 显示全部楼层
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma formaly.7 a  |4 k% m$ F, x" x. J

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原帖由 竹帘儿 于 2008-1-11 14:40 发表 , A% Q7 i; b" P  D3 C* {

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% W- O( f) L% zhave you checked the link that sansi posted here? it's a slang dictionary defined by the readers, to some extent it is similar to wikipedia. I believe that languages are alive for words like "chee ...
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 10:25 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 T061115 于 2008-1-11 00:07 发表
' |1 p% o3 @) ]impudence  厚颜无耻   可以吗?

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bold faced 不要脸的!
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$ T* V1 s) n( ^) j3 Q) j寻求“臭不要脸”的英文ing..
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I really don't know and never thought it can be directly translated but I suddenly thought of some words that I never used, when I was driving on my long commute this morning:& [7 d6 R# Q2 B5 ~
what about clichéd ...
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对,我的总结是:cheesy的含义有比肉麻更广,但是肉麻的最接近英文是cheesy( @( y* K9 _' @6 h
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这个cliched,我就遵循下面竹帘这个french frog的说法了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:35 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 醉酒当歌 于 2008-1-11 22:03 发表 $ w4 ?* z; E8 C* s0 o) H# G
Slang depends on area, and culture too. Some slangs works in some area but may never work in other areas, meaning if you use it, nobody understand. So I still doubt Cheesy can really mean Rou Ma forma ...
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文化不同语言的应用不同,这个原理是对的,比如哥儿们,美国人叫buddy,英国人叫mate, 但是放在这个话题里有点不搭嘎,因为我们讨论的是这个俚语的普遍应用形势
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-12 11:37 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 寒江雪 于 2008-1-10 23:57 发表
/ Q4 p, _" J: }1 o" RThe following is what I found about definition of cheesy :
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2. Slang. inferior or cheap; chintzy: The movie's special effects are cheesy and un ...
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3 U3 ^# }1 G* [" T; ?5 y- [6 `请参见20搂,我开始也是查的正统字典,觉得不确定。后来查到这个词典:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cheesy
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发表于 2008-1-13 23:48 | 显示全部楼层
看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:08 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
) }3 |) D1 r' w4 R  H: p看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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Mushy
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发表于 2008-1-14 11:12 | 显示全部楼层
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另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy2 n* V" ~2 i2 r: i' T$ z
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形容肉麻的情书情话之类.
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:26 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 tyrochangs 于 2008-1-13 23:48 发表
5 x. I: u5 U- H4 c9 N- z: J看电视剧看到个ick是肉麻的意思,是爱人间讲情话的那种肉麻,不过字典查不到,只有icky,请各位高人看看
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. R. C' i/ w; L+ A严重感谢!我查了一下,icky是说“粘粘糊糊恶心的”意思。比如形容icky spider。 我觉得这个词作为肉麻的非常接近!我会尽快把这个词在我的生活里使用,以求加强记忆!再次感谢!
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-14 14:29 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:12 发表
4 d1 Y: ~% s% r0 r4 K另外还有: schmaltzy, slushy8 a' l* o9 B8 a: \/ E
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schmaltzy !太高级了这词,没见过地说!仔细钻研ing
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发表于 2008-1-15 00:21 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 老饿 于 2008-1-14 11:08 发表
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! d0 J/ M" u/ \) V7 I这个对,我女儿说的。
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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 11:15 | 显示全部楼层
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 00:21 发表 $ L7 q/ ^/ P! t+ r# e" I* {% Z9 F
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这个对,我女儿说的。
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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发表于 2008-1-15 12:55 | 显示全部楼层
mushy
4 K1 _! v7 S1 |: ]% Uoverly romantic and sentimental
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:04 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-15 11:15 发表
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豆腐,烦劳您问问咱亲亲外甥女,cheesy是什么意思?有啥区别呢?谢谢!
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号,好像是那个人的名字?给人感觉很FAKE,叫CHEESY.- R3 Q8 ]3 {" q7 V- ?  H1 j9 o# N
她说,肉麻是和LOVE有关的,MUSHY.
1 o& R2 X5 ?0 r- ]/ T6 S/ i  n如果你还不明白的话,我让她来回这个帖子。
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发表于 2008-1-15 14:16 | 显示全部楼层
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1 A; t9 }, X$ \7 M4 ?$ X, mcheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotional/sentimental scenario, it could mean "fake", "of low class",  caused by affectation, which may very much make one to feel "rou ma" , "goose bumps" is just one of its infamous side effects.
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原帖由 豆腐温柔 于 2008-1-15 14:04 发表
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她倒时跟我说了,但我没听懂,说是有点FAKE的意思,比如有人来拍新闻,大家都假装,假装喊口号,那种感觉叫CHEESY,她举例说有个什么残疾人还是得癌了的人,以他名字命名了一个长跑,电视台来拍,大家就都喊什么口号 ...

& X. m( F% p' ^4 c严重感谢豆腐和俺亲亲外甥女。有一个外国孩子真好啊!可惜俺的太小了!
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8 q( g2 P0 y9 b8 e4 @! U2 t我从这个帖子学习后,又有这么个想法:肉麻也是有很多种情况引发的,如果是爱人间的肉麻,是mushy, 如果是表演过度,作假的肉麻,是cheesy 等等。这么理解对吗?4 `  B' a# B* `- N, \* ?

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 楼主| 发表于 2008-1-15 17:29 | 显示全部楼层
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Thought I'd throw in my 2 cents!
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cheesy often means "cheap, flimsy and of low quality". However, when it is used to describe food, it usually means "of a lot of cheese"; when describing an emotiona ...
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thank you so much! I wonder how cheesy was evoluted into rouma
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发表于 2008-1-16 16:48 | 显示全部楼层

I thank my government

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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表 8 k5 m0 `1 ?/ y" J- p. q+ l! T
用google字典翻译
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One joke from HK: In one public show, when one guy said " I really love and thank ***.." everybody felt cheesy/mushy/.....0 `/ ]0 c* I# e( w, G( S

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原帖由 三思 于 2008-1-9 21:03 发表
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肉麻== I thank my government
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7 T6 K& E0 d: b0 X9 X某大官考查回归前的香港, 被问及如何看待治安和黑社会时, 说了一句经典的话: 黑社会也有爱国的! 从此被广泛引申为: 鸡也有爱国的....等等等等.
. k1 ^4 z9 N% }( E- B/ b2 I港传媒便有曰: 今后谁敢在公开场合说自己爱国的, 都应该被捉起来, 真正罪名是"肉麻"
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原帖由 想吃火锅 于 2008-1-10 09:38 发表 , m* N+ l4 k- O; M
wow, three thoughts,  make a show of yourself again, very impressive. Shall I find some adjectives for you and let people see how they fit you? just kiddding, please take offense, so that I will know  ...
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what a bi*ch! like you have slept with every married american man and know exactly what they think about their wives.
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原帖由 jmtshjx 于 2008-1-16 16:48 发表
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I agree with this one.
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鹈鹕灌顶!这太绝了!!!
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发表于 2011-4-27 03:21 | 显示全部楼层
哈哈。学习了。 肉麻死人了。
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