說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
: J5 \, t$ h5 @2 y- n4 Y, I学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 " d2 E, x2 I+ c8 k9 k/ }
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 * d6 J! Y/ U4 G5 C
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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还有一项就是：) G$ A: A+ G' U- _5 Y) n4 ^

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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE& S; B8 L3 X4 i5 z	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE $ D& P( G! _# n6 z
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport2 d( Y' I9 }- I% C; `: X	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE ! E. ?' E$ Q2 H7 n
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE/ _7 ~! u p( }& @$ [/ q1 K! v9 ?	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX 7 D3 S+ K" n0 [% G, u# J# A; [
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 c$ `' \7 D0 O. u: h	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR53 x! J, H7 w2 S
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE, L$ ?* B- _0 Q% e	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 1 a* `. D* `- G0 A7 h7 c' ?
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE ! k. F4 \|1 }8 t4 _( D, F; {	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX + M+ U* J7 X; v. P
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 0 v# L- Y1 N+ \|' ?	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ! T+ D& v) ]1 k: Z
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited ' g1 m/ k- m3 m- A) A	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR58 M. o5 x8 _& Y' o$ G* ?4 v# U: D
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE ; M6 H z% M7 T$ x	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE : v5 k- h" e; n- Q
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE4 D: f. ^# v3 x: u( R	• 1996 Toyota T-100 " w3 b6 W& ]) E& D7 A
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE5 J( y- f0 Z8 [; L. O	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST& E( }# c% H( O
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 3 j: f' p. ^5 y/ U	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited * U r) {7 W* \|2 A
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner : \|$ l) f3 c! A: [. U	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ; _: q) @6 v5 n
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE v6 k. Q0 w4 N" }) Z# K: k0 n7 }4 \|	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5! p) {+ d1 h' L
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE ; R2 a3 \|5 m1 t	• 1996 Toyota Tercel ; `% ]8 Y6 h X9 w7 ^' J s0 w
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . c% b& B! U2 @; M7 [$ [	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX7 e8 J. \) @* u d3 v* H. N: A
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 9 M0 \$ S# @: }8 O	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT; H) x3 X- o7 r
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS + R: l$ V! e, f. I6 @	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ; y1 I; b ]$ a$ W
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL" i* F7 i( s) I/ s5 `8 ?	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner - h) u( M; t. U
• 2006 Toyota Prius 3 V" T- J" N$ v0 W7 Z	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX / [2 }; S1 s9 u! \: D3 y$ C) y
• 2006 Toyota Camry 8 D8 y) M+ D2 x. v7 l	• 1995 Toyota Pickup % I3 M/ k1 C3 D
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring ( K2 H+ J0 l1 Q' f n	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE 5 [ Y3 u+ s; b: ]5 t$ U
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma . r+ L5 w/ e+ z! l	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE# _3 U( N4 I3 {+ {. `/ u: @
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE5 t( p1 \2 b! s/ B- ~7 z; z	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton; a# p: E' i$ L! J2 w1 v
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited3 o/ M3 I8 f9 m8 r( I	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 C/ ]" e/ {, b) ~- p: q6 }
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner. g7 X7 r% D+ @# w. g* ~" r2 t	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 & j% R- q- @. ~7 z
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 0 U- T1 G* u0 [; y4 r- A	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX4 r% b0 _& p! H, W2 n7 P0 v0 S
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S , q2 k4 E' Q! i( ~( P4 p	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX8 U) \|- u4 ^) K1 [9 J: }/ U( s$ Z
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited4 w/ q/ k9 ~* t/ I5 P# e: @3 A	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 @+ Y% L( {& ?2 g1 b4 k
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE7 Q' R9 a# q8 D	• 1995 Toyota Tercel , J \|. k' P$ U5 K# @: A2 W
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS7 c8 M( y% N' G& n0 Y( Y/ {$ q( S, e	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 2 a3 N: x" ?. O5 }7 y2 ^
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ e) o- g* o6 b; M6 K# I1 i3 {4 E	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX / e0 y! s( F0 Z! Y U$ L
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 4 X7 j. G! \|( N	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 7 n! p* o4 u0 Y+ w9 I. U% f
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS " P$ g8 d( a5 U) l% S+ H	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX; K0 V9 O4 y$ c
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR57 {. m* w( E9 W/ i+ ~" t	• 1995 Toyota T-100 3 _& ]1 X# \" y8 i W3 H. x2 n
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited ) L/ A' i4 s+ z	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma # B- a0 b+ t* L* x
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL* F0 [7 s k8 h3 N4 E0 J	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE ; X4 c9 R0 L" x6 T7 \|
• 2005 Toyota Camry 2 w \|& c6 _1 p9 \: u7 q5 [	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5! I) Y1 H6 H9 d$ v/ Z! i
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring : {: w4 I3 W0 J9 a( `	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX% S4 G9 g/ e* r) ]7 A
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE / Y2 X+ L7 Q; ]' t* Q/ T	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX2 z2 p# n4 ?) D `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE$ O, ?6 L( B; A2 r) K7 K0 `& U	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX " s8 x! V: O9 L
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited s2 Y4 S/ L O. }( K. `	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) k, S" m' L( p8 g& r1 y0 l2 [
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma i! U6 \|+ _$ R$ J, V+ C	• 1994 Toyota Pickup 5 a+ c; Q& I. r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S - ]# n# J2 t* d$ w. n	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE - W4 S, _2 w! j" r
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE% p+ G! B6 I2 _9 y0 O3 a# R* H	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE$ q: U( [% _' n
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited ' k: Y3 n$ V; y4 t. {6 I	• 1994 Toyota T-100 ) y, @ A& `) ~; P: E, ~2 s5 x
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5/ B5 R- h9 N( f	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 " u& k7 }& o ~+ R
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE% e/ P, l, M3 x3 @	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE# A0 W6 i; F" B' F$ \|
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 3 R6 a& Y4 Q. `7 B \; R	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX% X* q( G; `5 S+ X7 k
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS1 F" ?" E k% E" m. Y/ A' z9 _, `, b	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / w$ B. n3 D9 @8 S& a
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE3 w) ] r" Y# c9 V2 t	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE; c& }) k9 u) W! C% ^1 L
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 9 t! _* J' A& c7 L; V; D. z	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ! U* G& P5 R( E; w A7 l
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited * D9 I- @: W& g$ j0 t	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 4 J* R# d( }9 y7 l$ y, o
• 2005 Toyota Highlander . Y, g& D4 W, T6 u	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE8 u4 l# b7 Y+ {2 Y. w
• 2005 Toyota Prius " B0 ]/ B: @* Q& F	• 1993 Toyota Corolla & {6 e" x: L! h* S5 c2 d( C& @" S
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE " y& S7 ?' D" m% ]' M- \$ s	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton5 n" s+ q6 \|% N6 }& x6 Y2 A$ O
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE ' N% p! \0 d0 P; N: Q, b( b	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / t: o! D8 A4 s; D9 z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited! b0 A+ _# D) @* B$ b- W* t	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX - Z; w- ~3 k7 {' b$ z
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5( E* Q6 u" I+ j L	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX7 l" c7 G9 M0 o2 i
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE4 J: a2 V" y0 {5 L	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 2 \|4 _! G6 C( _" A" ]: _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE % \0 D c- ~9 I- P% y0 u+ N% \	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser * u& P- b; y2 {+ R3 w* O
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE # U4 D7 c' \. Y3 i	• 1993 Toyota T-100 5 y \3 @0 ?+ t _1 r
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE . P! r" h- J$ h% b3 Y/ k	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE $ D1 `+ a/ Y, \|7 N4 d2 Y
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited$ F* a: {7 s. \; F	• 1993 Toyota Pickup S- l* z0 F% ?. H# l2 T
• 2004 Toyota Prius " h c1 {% r- r+ Z$ D* l	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE ! N7 R9 o: V+ u0 E# m1 \|
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma r3 i- Q! {; }: {	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE- \|6 S1 [+ R9 I. Q9 l ^- f
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 8 s9 q% C4 H4 J& a% C# }6 E	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5: C+ r2 p4 d6 Z: R4 g6 z! ~
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE # y4 @2 a1 o' \|# a- Z	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 " M1 ]1 \|9 F1 g$ s1 H1 v0 U
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited7 y z+ K3 Z. q. `8 a# N6 _	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE4 ~$ K8 \6 I. v) z
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited1 {0 C3 L! }; i	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE & L1 C0 L# f$ w8 d
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE0 W5 ~. }; {9 M7 P$ N	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX , p5 F7 S: J ]9 N+ ^) Q4 T
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE + i; k4 I3 ^& B! j9 v	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE* ^& F; W! t/ s& O6 P3 D# A% ~# _1 T9 t
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE - }" A# ]# T& ?$ d4 m- w) a	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac! {) F1 z7 ]: N' w5 q- X( e
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited " J1 V5 M. R9 H2 _	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 9 w& O- k) E- z5 U- f2 o
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 0 `3 k( `, ?% }8 b2 f( ]5 r2 k	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE ! w, @8 @9 S' K/ }1 U
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner9 b3 [# A# T, @5 b3 S: y4 x3 C	• 1992 Toyota Corolla % W: @- m \: G! u6 N
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 1 z4 h; n2 S5 G8 D8 S+ \4 Z	• 1992 Toyota MR2 0 c3 u$ g$ v1 S, q* E
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # Z5 D2 t r6 y G% u P6 N# y/ L	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 8 B* w% q7 N7 X- Q6 [6 h
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 Z$ ~) y% `5 C% b$ F1 Z7 O	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX6 z8 N; s* y ]' e
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS3 Y5 D; \ }$ K* d	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac& o; j9 T* w- S: w6 N
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ; `8 [: U. F' x" ~	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5, m+ J# Y" X& l
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S9 [% u2 H, H/ \|4 J5 ^+ u5 n	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX, ]/ G! N/ Y; @( }6 M- q4 M b# S' a
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited X: X" P2 z5 W$ I" J	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 Y, k( L" ^7 I% _& ?
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner# i4 z+ P+ U( e9 [5 Y; I9 p	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser * b2 R" Y" x8 c% f2 g$ p
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 ! t' w: B; d/ ^( _6 ^$ S) D	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof $ B5 R/ J: s9 x4 n& b* M! n- U( S3 [
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited5 t' @2 `6 l4 d4 @* n6 J	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 7 W, P: d9 i: s: H
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE- U2 J0 J; X1 S$ b/ A* o	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5# K* ?3 }+ Y1 c" t1 \|
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT1 d, }0 F) H7 A	• 1991 Toyota Camry ' L# V' H5 S6 u2 W
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 0 n9 d/ W! E% {7 H	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser ( ]/ s* x, g6 b2 Q. F* \% P
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 6 r( b% g2 E6 q: i0 r; R% z	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 0 w1 U* Q) }9 S7 y. ]. V
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma / e9 ?! X. W; d	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX3 n) q+ f* q( p* Q3 g& Z
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ) Q4 B8 z1 M6 V# \|" y4 P) o	• 1991 Toyota MR2 ' N& i! ~: K$ z% \|! c9 l, S6 b
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE- a) C \* n; r2 O	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! Y+ [. I8 n: R
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited 2 B5 ~/ {2 c# H3 D	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX & O1 w) t( f/ r( N: J
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE * b E' e8 a: k	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # q% P5 ?6 P: r7 G
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 S+ @4 d& F: {/ R* I9 Q# N; D	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac . z% y2 f5 o$ e5 ]2 O6 x' g
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE" ^5 b: y* c4 y/ Z; z	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof * A! w* W# @" K3 k; z
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE , H9 O6 _/ ~( v/ j/ }	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX- L- _8 J+ C% m1 r- o
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited" e* p( [: {4 f4 W' W	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE ) Z) J9 s, l* Y2 y9 e
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 k2 q/ `/ K6 L: f \|+ x! x	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton" i4 ~0 n! E2 h1 e3 V8 T
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited + k0 \|6 l" K9 W3 g	• 1990 Toyota Pickup / b1 N$ _9 j) W) Q2 R9 M; r
• 2002 Toyota ECHO 6 e- \0 [( j0 s8 e) j' w5 @9 j	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE / T, w u8 X# l" ^. l" Y7 X
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE / \# Q1 ^' Z5 }5 U# w4 \|+ U	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; A+ M" V0 u( K, A5 y4 z) u
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited7 f: u! u! X3 @( p; d9 W" X	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ 5 }9 @$ H/ \/ r- B
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE, e) f& k" @5 N: p3 h8 H& D0 l	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT ' r; \& g6 x0 v" X- v4 W
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT 9 o- V9 B% ~3 E% k	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base 4 E; X9 C" o/ W5 L2 Y {$ B
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 6 y9 ^, T( P( q: Y# o	• 1990 Toyota Camry $ S; m3 }2 G. x0 ?) s
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S; i; r+ g4 s% f/ s$ E: l4 o1 Q	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST( q% b+ ~1 d1 C+ N1 t; L. s) [
• 2002 Toyota Highlander * e+ [8 x8 \! d# G	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX* U; l4 @' S! n" A7 O! [, [7 d& V
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" V0 Z; A% [9 x: D# V" S	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX4 I- G \|0 y" S/ d- ^7 a' Y
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR59 o0 o0 J2 y2 }6 B6 A8 N	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5; V+ \, e$ _& [! @9 z
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 % ~. K7 q8 \|( v5 c) J8 c	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS" D, Z0 f% a9 @8 n5 R" J
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE+ B d/ ?! y2 s$ r/ E; W7 C, e	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 h1 m: n6 S$ S7 C4 H( p% G
• 2002 Toyota Prius 8 e3 \|; a" A* T S$ q	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ' Z$ r, Z4 k6 Y) o
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 2 _+ P* y/ R) x	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX' G; x, M4 b& i: l+ ~( e* v: \|
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS* [4 E' U; K) {$ y	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac+ D' F% t& r# U" G) x: @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE3 k, h- ^! B( I6 B* E6 ^$ p	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac; v. F, _/ G: \|
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 1 C+ K# Q8 u. V7 i	• 1990 Toyota Tercel : H2 \|7 g9 T; y2 t! G
• 2002 Toyota Tundra / K5 y% u9 T+ l8 n4 b4 d	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac : d; p3 K5 D+ _) o: ]
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE G3 w; R0 I( P) J4 s1 ]4 @5 C	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac " G' w' a& f) H$ m9 }
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE ( [- D5 H$ ~2 q5 M: e	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ) F# `* `- ~' o
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL- N; j. M8 F4 t* c0 `6 \8 D2 ~/ {	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base" h# ~; F- }1 S7 g
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited* w( r: ?4 H; P8 `8 v	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac : k! u0 n B) Z' T
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT " B7 X& T' J- b5 U }	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser % ` `6 c+ P$ V$ t0 S2 x
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE$ E7 X& }. S# g' B1 u	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE% g& ~# l! l: }& c
• 2001 Toyota Prius 8 K, N1 a- ]1 B: ?7 ~/ P& ~	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 6 X+ n) C0 }; C" R- B1 \|- j
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma - }, j; U& D" i% }9 z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton - i9 T3 C0 \! ]% N7 i
• 2001 Toyota Tundra ( S. x: c! k( Y+ r6 a7 B J; B	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger : e& ^0 E% E/ x8 q. B/ \|3 l
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE e2 U% D+ W% ]' R, W; y	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX+ W$ ` ]* \|- [, u ?
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited' C; c6 h, j$ t% X( K	• 1989 Toyota Camry ) [% B) O& @: t, K7 P6 j
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 # v) T% X2 Z! [0 h; q, P	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 9 Q5 _9 C4 }8 y1 M# K, W
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE & z/ p; o; n; B" Z! a	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX- Y. {* r, N. s) r
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE' c: g5 @4 u: B, K	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 0 w* f! c/ Y8 F2 y
• 2001 Toyota ECHO + [" C7 f# l; c+ ]( {8 j	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 R0 j! \|) i/ x- Q# E& \|+ C
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS) u+ V) R- v) y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger # w$ X3 u# j# H B, w" ^; }
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE( z! e$ W t! B1 [& w. r	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ + c F8 D& G: e- H& ]6 t
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5* D1 m9 p7 w% z5 }	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel3 ]' f% r0 r2 ^# e
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner # j+ M6 \$ \. M; S& k% U	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX( B9 S, L5 D" u2 k+ T0 F# {
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS& ]( ~1 G1 N- q( y/ t9 Y) A% z* a	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ, \# \|5 `2 x, b# b$ Z
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S. I+ _6 q, P7 Q' G; d6 V	• 1988 Toyota Camry ; k2 S% F2 }3 w; U+ l* K8 Y
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner: q0 ^: g, {& ^( x/ P2 h+ w9 l$ [	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 3 Q1 x9 K, c4 P/ S2 e# d
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 + W$ f% o9 y1 X& @5 C) b	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger + n2 l/ B+ c8 E3 J
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE& `8 E$ C1 N- y: } e	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 H) p* c; w8 g; K) W" W1 c( Y
• 2001 Toyota Highlander % \, \2 \0 L, k$ {; r' k! R	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac / n& M0 H7 r& @% p8 I5 i. Z; p
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 0 ]: a6 `7 a, @' d, m7 G/ e5 R	• 1988 Toyota Van DX $ B u# r, X8 ?0 Q$ K& ]
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 9 {* E* m& K% n- C5 n! [1 Z, u4 E	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger, ]; J" h8 c% p4 v9 V" I- s1 F7 X; o
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma . h+ X7 x/ h7 d: f" ?% ]0 B	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ! r* D8 O. C8 V$ R
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT 3 X4 [/ }* e, G% G% S	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE 6 {7 w3 d4 l* ]6 t4 b
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE+ q+ ^; W. q8 S8 l" M; H8 M: y	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window & g7 k+ O$ d& a2 P+ Y
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 1 n# r8 O$ b4 k9 _) L+ U! y	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton* ~. k8 v+ O, I* P
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner$ B! J( j4 _. p2 s5 Q' Y	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 M+ G: E0 q9 G) m' B
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR56 U' N+ p; k+ V9 n* S/ y6 v3 f! M( D	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5" u( }9 D4 H' \( `2 k
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited8 R" e4 w: W0 C4 C9 b$ l	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger5 R7 n: ~0 C, N! I! A
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE$ E! [7 O I4 J3 w4 k	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B ' n( S' n& H' G: `0 G! R
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS% v: x, Y2 B2 W	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 4 W" n. e8 C5 V3 @
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE4 L( l" j* b; r9 O; Y; G	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger# }4 S# ^ s0 [2 E9 s
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara 7 t- v) i7 w4 r9 y	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR56 y4 S1 n" Z$ N! l1 x( Z' P4 d# p
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited : W; r0 y! a, e	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX ! [3 N. O9 [- P" I6 l% ^
• 2000 Toyota Tundra ( ?. M2 o3 j8 B9 w	• 1988 Toyota Van LE & C7 R7 N3 F$ O0 a+ @
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS2 `0 [1 b& \|+ a! B3 N	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser + V7 b% F' L& X; P' V
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE - Q0 F; V- k, f' ^# l/ t2 v	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 % L3 w8 Z# W. _
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited' s) z9 }: y# L& _3 n	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE 0 n$ T' ~/ [2 _) z" ]7 ~
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner : }; e. J) i# \|% Q. T	• 1987 Toyota Van DX* r! v6 h f% x* V% x
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE . M, L F7 v2 n/ A4 z	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window! ]4 L5 ]( `8 g4 B, c* b
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR58 M( g8 T" R$ K* Y: Q. p	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton ; \|+ n9 ?' N& {9 d5 Z
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE * t" Q( K0 z* H9 ^/ J8 T* L4 o	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 " r, ~1 B5 n1 E% x
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL4 n: y/ f- M8 ^. o+ S	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX$ Y" B" L* A# N" @- d
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner & a; r- O$ E: E	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 7 c9 Q3 f/ P% B/ c0 {: q- W
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE / V# J% N, T8 ?& D9 ]$ {	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX; z+ {# E/ _) a# T
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5, {- E3 Z1 g! P# }+ U	• 1987 Toyota Van LE/ B/ \|( g8 W7 D2 K k: F3 V
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE' x& J' L4 @$ z	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel. r; ~3 S+ Q$ M, K
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE 3 H4 q4 \|6 b6 b6 E" k% m	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX6 ?" ]" C. y& s7 ?7 q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 8 x/ `9 ?, H/ s. ~	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 2 p, C3 W6 g9 N; u* @% l' }5 z
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS7 j& G' Y6 K; b' k- ^3 w$ Q	• 1986 Toyota Van LE6 ?- X+ T/ l" C7 P+ h4 b
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE % Q- w: g' l" U! c/ ~	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser : G: D" Q8 W& C
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner4 j+ A6 b$ U& v6 d	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel" ]0 H3 k ?9 ]1 `: Y
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 2 {2 t8 F# j) \$ O2 e- w3 e	• 1986 Toyota Van DX " ]! j8 B9 q/ A3 R+ r' G U
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited5 `3 @3 q* H# w5 g) [- W9 U$ U	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 9 v# z6 f9 i9 a6 E1 M1 g5 U
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE9 o y8 J% C0 L% l& }) A* t6 a( D# \	• 1985 Toyota Van 3 H6 ^& G! Y) J" d! l/ X3 C: ?2 e
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE & b$ V6 o" }7 _& u9 v: \* k	• 1985 Toyota Van LE + D5 f4 `$ e. M/ l
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL 4 P$ x2 A9 G4 o- S	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 0 R l N+ U8 Z& E5 V+ m% ]
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE( h2 _! w" d7 @$ G, w	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser : r) @1 h$ k K6 @. z, q# E1 o! v
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 6 y3 v+ d. x" w5 Y# A& r+ Z	• 1984 Toyota Van DX / A g* N9 f( e. A; r% q) e+ f
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 8 \* g, l0 q6 V- ?	• 1984 Toyota Supra ! Z% L! c- z# `0 j# ]3 x
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE9 a% z0 @, q( U7 @7 [. M$ G6 ~	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX2 p2 E$ B$ L; B* a) Z. L
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE8 ^7 c- R( @/ ~$ `6 W# v	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser $ _) w" c& q& Q4 y! J3 `
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited " i' }1 N) s" n	• 1984 Toyota Cressida / C0 v; L! \|; s2 R; I3 J. g
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS! ?9 [* e) w9 ^! T	• 1984 Toyota Van % X- m3 d) K& l: O0 `
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 1 J( B7 V8 c) F	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE! w, y. }; \! G; x& c
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner ! C3 o, ~. w5 ]; }; C u	• 1984 Toyota Van LE, T( e3 u- j0 N/ s
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE. }( u- h, Y& ^) [4 h	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE , b, e7 q/ _4 T' `! G; Z4 G
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 4 _) S6 f) Z" X/ w* g& z	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 9 ?5 i4 e5 d3 Z1 A$ v
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 / {1 S v6 v+ d' [% A	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX 4 o8 c0 K- w" v q
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE . i) ~7 z( _; S: G8 y	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 7 \6 _( Y1 o& M- l* a+ ^
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE * K( L( K7 S. M0 N2 O* m	• 1983 Toyota Supra 2 [5 b6 q: Z0 w6 Y( S0 I H1 c
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ) {5 }8 t5 V; w+ B1 m$ L( P& C	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser M m! M; D* w; E1 y
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL # U% H# v( m7 N m( e	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX 7 E! P' Y+ [. u: d5 H
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE 6 u' z" r# Q1 n% ]	• 1983 Toyota Cressida % k. x! W& u# Q/ ?& \' n) \|% `
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner) ?0 P' m# \' y& X" `; f	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT9 f3 ?. k' `, C; g( [7 s
• 1998 Toyota T-100 * t1 Z( ?- r- x3 m; W \|4 @2 b4 b	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser ) Y. U6 r$ O9 [# k
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited: b) I2 w/ I7 @	• 1982 Toyota Cressida / z# M5 f% U- w8 ^) F' k
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE & X' u5 L% h! Q0 u Q: f	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 6 s. i( n g7 b6 p
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 + ]4 b( I0 F# E	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST 5 i" w% X/ B2 e g& X: Y" i8 U
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1982 Toyota Tercel ) _8 G; e; Y/ x- c' `/ r7 M1 G% {, O
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX }2 f8 [0 s" l6 K" g	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR54 n& V0 f+ S3 y' _
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma 6 g" k& h6 o8 b	• 1981 Toyota Tercel % K6 H- c& o* k# F8 h3 j! _+ B
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS: C$ \1 y& G: E	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5# p/ N: r }# ^( Q6 r
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX5 L0 C4 n( t X	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 F: P1 m+ [$ z8 X6 Q' P8 [0 U
• 1997 Toyota T-100 n8 w) f1 G$ e6 h" U	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX + u& J3 Z5 d, q \|, p1 j
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited % E3 s( T e7 ^+ ~, f% z	• 1981 Toyota Cressida : {) R$ p; O2 s
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE3 x( e+ I! i& z$ T+ i/ K0 s! H	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT) c3 O5 c$ z2 F6 _' o7 Z% O
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 6 p% P, ^4 p! f, L& w2 M	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 3 f( _2 l" f$ c" Y
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ; \|0 _9 c. Y6 P( p- f* O	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser ' a% P3 N+ m- d: \|
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 + Y$ r% K9 G2 S- S	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe : w( @ T% ]1 ~' f5 T9 m
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL! z0 I' X% V( G9 Y5 Q( L2 f% [	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX : y$ W$ S9 g8 D0 `$ ?0 ]
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE # w! _$ W9 s: P' m: q3 V	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST r5 t- n7 u# I* h0 ?
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner ; k2 G) E7 G: P$ y/ _ O	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury8 W+ {: C) e) [% ?
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE % ]* h4 S0 t; l& i f0 G- l	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 8 E: k8 @! R5 O7 i- I; R3 L ^: T; T
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE . I* G7 \|% ^- ` @/ G4 _8 i	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 * n* `1 L1 m- T
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX$ P1 r' [: X0 F0 V7 C/ ^; u	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe& A& R& X3 I" X; H
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE " P+ j M3 _) k. g	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR53 D8 V0 u( {% g/ f' O& n* _' ~
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5- e: \|, u% T/ r; c

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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2 ~( k! x* P. ]如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：( [8 l- d+ \" ?
Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE8 |; p0 Q# I# X4 ]% g
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
: p: o0 X: w* E* }# P&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 . X* D) F) r3 h# Q
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 9 y- P: G8 M1 ^$ r; p* M
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6 |. m9 X- C. C/ \! m佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。$ L, Q" c* X, f3 Z, {8 V' S

' \2 b& A$ ]8 V; {) o# a由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
2 _9 }/ t+ v" e9 s( Z+ G
& q0 Z; a0 w7 [1 O/ _2 L1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
* [: O a4 J- u2 B/ A+ v7 D' c2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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