說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 $ D0 n9 q- f7 i3 h, N4 a
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 1 j% U3 \& x* }6 Z
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
5 W. _4 T2 }" w: v8 M! O5 Y9 }楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表 ; w+ X; j2 q( d) z8 k/ s# r2 u& w
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ' L: t7 m# G' Y, d3 Z# l	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE 8 Y9 o0 ^, t* s1 [
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport# I" \: l2 Z; d' @ ]5 P	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE / w3 _4 i) _" K/ y8 D$ C }/ a0 T
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE5 b# X! j# k! c5 O: V	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX3 r. r& s% }$ W3 Z. z7 f) Y5 E
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 3 L) a- J0 A7 }, A8 [) m2 p	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5; [( p- ~7 D- m) x& ^1 Z$ M" ]
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE % `: m; X3 J9 ^	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE 4 B, D' @( x+ B: c6 w- f
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE9 {- X3 _9 q- v	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX* Z5 H, {1 F$ K, [( J5 C7 U
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid: k- T; b, z* r( u3 ^6 \|) g	• 1996 Toyota Corolla ' K) E9 C( A" c, Q
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited$ E9 S) F8 x, Q+ T& e; T, K& T	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR51 H- i& B+ g8 A5 p, ^
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE0 f5 U! h0 M+ A7 [	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE " t5 k5 ?+ s* s) V
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE" \; \# [6 D/ E* _0 L	• 1996 Toyota T-100 # f4 v# s1 q3 l" N
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE $ v9 \+ k9 L: d% D+ d* `0 \|+ M	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST. r k) V( }% a1 o) x+ p
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited 4 b) M% O c' {* U X	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * u4 O, t1 v! O' Y2 _+ H- n	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX 6 a4 G' q9 k2 m, E+ f, R' j/ j
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE% G1 [- y" Y* n9 Y	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 . h1 ]: V: B& d
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE 3 r+ s: V' z: p8 t4 `	• 1996 Toyota Tercel 2 X9 x: R" @( d: J- x6 A
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 # ^4 E& N* ]9 U	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX 9 D2 t) `( b$ J* d7 t. ^2 l
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 3 c; b4 N0 i0 Y	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT 6 b# K5 e. P+ z" T' D. E R
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS" Z: {9 l3 T0 z8 x, V H0 x	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma ) f1 j- M1 n$ t4 o! ?( f
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL6 T) S+ a- r$ k	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner ) F' c- P! z* D2 w9 w( u7 A
• 2006 Toyota Prius	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX ' @ `/ Z- I6 A5 s5 `: }5 k- S
• 2006 Toyota Camry # b, i1 y% V6 Q3 V$ H( N- }& h	• 1995 Toyota Pickup 2 H/ N, j1 D( g5 k2 h0 U7 v' T/ T% H
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring) L3 T. G& M+ E	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE : w3 R9 R F$ @/ r3 ~$ n5 \$ n+ ]% q
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 3 Q! ]: l5 K. t5 ~0 q1 W	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE3 `& @8 z4 B0 x, l4 r) \|$ j
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE- Y+ f0 w9 p8 H* v1 ]6 u	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 8 H* Z p1 ~* T' x
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited) t) k- O4 W: y	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5/ o: q% x6 S) K
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner ( [8 w1 O! ?0 j/ F* q$ i	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5( U$ {8 A" D% ^% c( R; Z6 u* i% S
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; r9 ^3 t! m: v5 n1 E0 C	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX + p' G. a# ^* d$ W" h$ \|
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 8 p! ?$ l9 {/ \) n- Z& w0 h	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX0 h" l- X: v x+ q
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited e4 [! A+ g& K! M* m6 m$ j, H( u0 P	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 % O1 p0 ^7 R( N* L
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE. f. R/ o" R# N( J	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 3 {7 G- v4 O* p! Z
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS: s8 T: a: A8 o3 T2 R2 ^, f	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 3 ^) }! w5 `& X4 H K# h- I( P% R( l
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner) D) S3 A& b. P( e1 ^2 Y7 b	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX# ?6 g) n: b I2 B- l0 d8 l
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 6 j! k* N# s3 O+ n0 b% I) G	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE, x5 w5 o; H* A+ V1 r
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 7 ?( ^/ L, F6 _( L* e% ?	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX 9 a& G E$ n0 u) k4 s
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5# C2 E9 C8 s" u( {& M7 H" F	• 1995 Toyota T-100 ) o7 n# w# U0 i g
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited' \! \2 X, f+ K1 p) `) `	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 3 P0 j9 P0 \: l7 O& B( H7 v
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL0 [9 E" }) }% I2 z+ x	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE0 M( i" t3 V4 v; d) G3 G9 t' \|
• 2005 Toyota Camry ' x! w& J, O/ K+ j1 b	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR57 r! O- p9 {5 L+ D9 ]
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring ) Z1 {2 @( O( ]; I ?	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX9 ]) B( p% ]7 B) y( l
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE; j( j) U7 V" x7 \6 T8 s	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX" i7 F1 N5 h z( _( E6 F) `3 Z
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 6 M) O5 m1 E6 w5 R, y. Q	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX D, S. ?$ X, q5 J6 [
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited ) H6 n, @. W( T; c	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 ( i- B6 `$ z* e+ J1 D' @
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma - v. M; s) T( ?	• 1994 Toyota Pickup # D3 e) X' X5 T! O2 W+ y& x; ]
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S8 [9 Z+ u, Z+ B, D% K F	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE ( k8 n/ S. J7 o% m3 P( @
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE ) D/ r8 s C. ?! i6 G" x( K	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE/ q7 B# J! v3 x# o+ P% t* `( R
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited) K4 H4 l& \|- f1 w: c	• 1994 Toyota T-100 , Z. @ g, K. E1 J4 j* j
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 3 W6 X( x, A/ o' x+ ^) i8 ?( m	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 3 ^" N' Y8 {* \|& \|2 Y$ \) y$ X3 s
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE ! D& ?, \+ D9 r& w. S" D" I3 W	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE6 P" z: Z0 `. L' G' {: S& I
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 ! k8 V+ R5 ?4 ]8 ~' c! ^	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX* _* f2 L" s1 R& ^& v. d3 c
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5+ z! l( N; _' b2 i% S! O
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE 7 c+ r& R: `' v) P/ a3 \|& {1 q	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE . `1 X2 P- I$ s' `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE 8 \% _( K7 O9 ]	• 1994 Toyota Corolla . }. h, T5 a8 a. j4 e
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited 5 x! l {/ b) B+ M1 k, ~	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 7 j) o) _3 A! y. p" X
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 3 v6 U9 D2 k% b' D6 u( L$ N	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE . \|6 R* B4 \|) r5 ^; p' D
• 2005 Toyota Prius & s( H+ w: s; Y( C; k: h' n	• 1993 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 7 }+ ?, P. i% T. S9 z. ?2 u- [	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton / O' c. ^0 k3 p" Y8 l/ i
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE- Y+ o. H3 [6 x" M j	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 [1 q& I' Q4 m8 L4 I
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited/ {! T( U. {& u! T# x	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 V3 b }+ [& h
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5% i7 Y& S& ?: o4 b	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX . X! ^2 \|) E+ l. ^$ d3 q7 J5 ~
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE ; X, q P7 u1 \|8 N1 @0 q$ b	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 4 X' ?. ?2 ? P3 C
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 4 C9 `% r* f, @( g j2 v9 N" l, d	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 G% f( C+ @/ F4 W- ~4 D! [ }8 P
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE % M4 a" {6 {3 ~! ?2 C	• 1993 Toyota T-100 0 b; ^3 R8 j+ Z8 T' m
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE # d- N; ^& x8 m C: G/ f9 Z5 S	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE * J1 s: B s9 Q2 H
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 0 w0 U, S- [* u9 C2 y4 h% k	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 3 o4 e4 Y: m, D3 X/ Z0 G
• 2004 Toyota Prius 5 r: v4 k4 L( Q" ^; _$ N( v	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE: \ D; \|% r% _3 L# ^% f
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ! T6 e- \|7 I/ p% k	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE. U$ j2 f4 f# C) X* I5 M
• 2004 Toyota Tundra " D7 \|4 B) [ r7 m* S	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5; Q' @2 L' N8 k+ g; L, e
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE ! {4 q" u* P7 D' g8 e7 \) n	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 G: G; i! Z+ j$ V
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited ! I3 {- d' W# b/ y& f7 B2 [	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE' Y1 q0 I5 l. c3 q, ~
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited ; s* J" g# X! Y" S+ \5 V5 z4 H	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE' u+ F$ b1 T+ d( z
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE' \. b$ V6 n+ y7 Z* Z! \|	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX & A1 A+ s2 ~% ~! e3 X2 f$ }# C
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE& B1 b7 j) K, y4 J! R	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE* d1 S/ R; r( H/ X* N6 H
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE$ a3 \|9 y9 M8 l4 f, y9 c9 g0 H	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac: Q. I' U, d/ O% d9 G$ W: Q
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited2 i9 q$ H: q; T0 X$ o1 v/ I	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton _7 I% Y& B# a
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 3 R9 K1 S6 ?8 i	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE8 k! F. n1 n' t$ d% a- j
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner0 j6 U+ P' ~: M	• 1992 Toyota Corolla ) O5 k: ], l' p/ ~2 l
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S# N% E+ A+ N1 ?1 ^6 j* u	• 1992 Toyota MR2 % v3 o, Y# d; A. J9 u g" z
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . C7 ]3 x% Z# S+ s7 J/ M4 T l	• 1992 Toyota Pickup : P; l/ {5 W3 G0 Q
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR57 b( R: P# h' {! w	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX* x( m$ E% {; b: y
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS : g8 d1 q: `4 V; O9 }" \	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac" ]6 Z0 ^5 Y% I4 N& T" T
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner8 `* U4 v% L" V/ Z	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR52 v8 z+ E, c! l2 q2 K5 \|$ h5 `5 T
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S& R" R- X; V3 c! J	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX 8 h. r3 h. d8 q/ Q" s
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited' l9 z0 q5 V+ s	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 }" X M, S, v! [$ S! @5 ^3 f4 t
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner O$ N( u4 D8 P9 v	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 f- l& H [! c! Z7 `7 {( k
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 : f0 h& @0 X. S; I4 W* t	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 4 }: I7 L6 ]3 v, r# B0 S2 R3 q
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited - @ _% s( `3 X	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE7 `- R9 }& w4 v# d! r, D
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE 0 _4 w& d" O, E! G5 E9 B8 c& {	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & u, `1 ]8 @% x# [; o5 v1 L" Q3 }
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT - F( s6 Y9 l! d2 A5 h	• 1991 Toyota Camry , o/ _, Y7 y, q. n- U
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE & D4 v3 a& q1 S	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 p5 C* i' a3 i; b8 Q, a0 Y/ h
• 2003 Toyota Highlander & \|5 e2 \( ?' Q4 y' u	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ' q& k2 ~, w$ M* G2 U3 z; W
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma - ^+ P8 Q0 _6 Y! _: O+ y; l	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX & Q- k+ K" i0 g1 p: z% T0 Q
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 5 o6 d9 T; a- I+ }. j$ k& H% C; c; S	• 1991 Toyota MR2 : E+ Z- v: b' l7 _
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE6 s; K- g4 P. K, X	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 + k0 [1 ]5 u' i8 j
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited: ]9 a% O1 W3 s. [) T, c9 v! k% B( W	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 9 E% E+ m3 q( h
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE * G% x# {7 g6 U) k, f	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac- ~- e+ I! f. g/ N& V% F/ J0 D& l
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5% M! Y% [, d/ g/ o! K5 p. Y1 E) u	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac# x8 z& n) K" e
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE" ^- B6 s! r' w2 d	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof& \. J. d, ~1 \|* E2 G
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE, i* \2 w. }# g% x# b	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX q; q& b* s2 f/ e' Q. e- M9 U
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited& _. [% a/ f$ O* E3 H, }" H	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE9 P# h# k3 e. e J
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited * U* f$ i$ j0 o" ~' r- ]( E	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton. C+ h/ v: P" a5 Q [" _
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited4 i7 D' n& B% [( j& c	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 8 b$ g" o* Y, {: c5 a
• 2002 Toyota ECHO * P5 o8 r' m9 n	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE/ n! {) S/ t! E& k. v7 y# @3 E
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE$ H7 C+ a' P) M+ X( q	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR59 Y* j7 a/ G& G; w% D
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited* M5 k$ N1 J7 F7 p# Y! ]	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ2 {4 C$ o# _) \|, p: [# G9 \|0 c
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE( q8 X. H- l P: I, {$ A	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 0 L& Y6 C* h0 m, Q% b" t
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT( {6 q- e. w+ S' r) n$ y	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base " A* B" W4 W$ u. }5 B, B
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ! S8 j1 q, V0 l" k	• 1990 Toyota Camry 1 p0 i4 Z" r+ p/ ?+ l9 c
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S- p: L0 s) @0 A! a7 p. \|& B	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 7 T/ l& X+ X, n- Y% g* d9 B2 i: U
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 4 I r# }" m Z' U8 r. u% G2 \4 {	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX * ^9 u' r! h" x6 \4 X2 z
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner' L, b4 g# o, u+ }9 \" ~	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 0 A( W) s3 g' W2 E! L P8 h
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 + P- F2 G r8 o" X	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR51 \; ^& U$ w; s7 Q$ o$ c
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR59 ?5 ?+ O2 s1 B! e7 ^) I9 L	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS+ ~4 `- e: N! ?/ V# K/ J# e
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE( m2 \9 B* ]8 @! c	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser + o" P4 n$ z, \|5 F. P' W8 t
• 2002 Toyota Prius # B2 {0 ^# i1 \|$ j5 w$ H	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ! T3 R/ ]4 g. r$ p8 I
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR58 I0 X9 C0 K! }( c* ?! ^3 J; `	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX + P% @/ C$ G1 Q' j! U! g2 g6 T
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS& I% n- B0 T r* u# T3 F9 L+ ]' {	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac : e. r3 j0 m4 l: a
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE% a9 h) V) s: ]) }! Y" K) K	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac * t: j- M5 y% q! M& ?
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma + l1 R0 N" G' v7 q- s. L+ P. ?$ A	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 2 P; ^8 `1 n; B! l- `% o
• 2002 Toyota Tundra % `; {5 U0 i% J. f8 F% F6 G( T	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac3 V& h9 c; l3 d+ P% Z- w& C$ G
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE# q! K: J% N7 T" a	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 7 a n4 q6 p( c( a9 t* J/ x! g$ l1 n
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE5 x$ f, M" I: U( S- A	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger G8 a) {( M6 r! ^
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL# o; h- l5 l8 }7 X	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base0 C C# { G4 V" T6 G% S* x
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited3 h& \) _; N3 l& G$ T1 N3 F	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac $ w: A& ~! H1 O/ }( w' t/ x
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 5 f7 U! D0 C+ D0 D) `	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser * ~$ j) h( N9 P
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE ' p* {; w2 U- o6 B. \" m N- j	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE h& {4 y) A( A
• 2001 Toyota Prius * Y; y! s9 D8 H" `8 e% f: l. F& x; C	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX& e d* B7 W4 \( ~* d
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma . E) W4 ?4 r1 w1 O' I4 T" l	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton . @$ N5 W: M- U
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 2 C' e/ _. S: E6 y9 x* m E# X9 P	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger; }" t0 T; t9 I) K0 s
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE # V' G! o- Y. m5 E+ R: G	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX# @! j; F+ U4 Z& }
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited# G/ R2 b) E( t	• 1989 Toyota Camry ' }0 O/ y3 q- Q5 Y8 `: }
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR51 R0 F" s. x* W+ O" t& {	• 1989 Toyota Tercel , A1 s4 }6 J3 i" X
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE4 z4 {$ A8 J5 C y7 q/ f	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 8 c# ^ p; Q6 W% O7 {- v0 o
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE6 b$ s. c6 _4 G. x	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 5 I0 \|& @/ @, D/ L+ z4 B4 m, t& w
• 2001 Toyota ECHO , t9 p0 p. Z+ y0 J: D) V	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 V' Y5 Y6 h3 z- f
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS+ m. f1 {3 q) I1 ?( Z. s	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger( ?8 p) y5 @3 O. _) H- O" E: z& Z
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE% Y8 \|' K5 u4 F. k	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ ( D/ i# Q! l+ A9 e" k8 T& m5 V
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 , F& \; T8 V% ^0 I# `+ R	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel9 }. ^( @0 ^7 ]
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner1 w4 w: s" b- n7 A	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX 7 c) M: [$ X0 i0 e) u
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS # k% K" ~# W7 d2 m/ d- Y& e: C	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ" M) M% ?) D! B
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S6 W+ X8 \. C9 e/ T9 F/ U	• 1988 Toyota Camry ' F Z8 a9 f/ ~- N& L
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner) u) k% [; M# C$ K	• 1988 Toyota Pickup * I4 z$ P J2 z' J" j
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5' P3 Z P4 ^; T! ?+ c1 y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger+ {2 m! C0 d) A+ J
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE 1 r% g: j' j8 f8 R! ]& d7 l9 w	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 k6 ^# r( E8 M; q
• 2001 Toyota Highlander # K( C. n; Y$ V' [& ]6 f	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac " K8 V- l8 z# u
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited ' z1 r5 S( l: [6 ^	• 1988 Toyota Van DX ' I- d* y/ ]$ Q! q6 Y
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 3 Q: A& k2 ]& ]3 K5 ?0 Y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger5 \|( S) F; {1 u" \' ]4 J
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma / j* S# _! @$ f- B9 W	• 1988 Toyota Tercel $ W5 g' ?' N. ]/ s, }) ~3 j5 A- Z
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT3 {2 T! B, ~: ~/ l0 @) i( ]	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE & a& F4 M; h9 {. R3 H
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE) h8 D& N! d9 i; a6 v3 a: h4 \	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window 0 h/ Z; L7 J8 W$ B i
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 + ]% o1 Z/ n! o" X1 Z	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton; v* y% p8 S* h7 V
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) K+ \+ b1 O2 h4 L	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser ( `) @4 N. ]& N, u2 L3 p1 u
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR52 C+ Q: U; U& i, o/ H	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited 5 M$ c3 u& q' E* x9 ~	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger7 N4 u" d4 q2 A6 p* O
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE: [$ \5 k- ` Z: Z3 H: I, \|. q6 @1 H- {	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B1 M& w+ k: l" r6 w
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 2 o! F- Q* `" ~* O	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac+ x E, ^; e: \7 K3 z; i6 Y! ?/ Z
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE ' _' J# V) t% P+ O	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger; h, u* U' X% E. c# B: e5 B
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara & v! @: p- ?# W p9 e	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5- {1 d/ Z6 h% s7 h
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited% _- D" n4 _5 c3 U# h/ t5 n/ o" ?' [7 i	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 3 p) i: D/ \, J! p# G7 k9 `
• 2000 Toyota Tundra / c& @# W5 q, f% ?. G. C: @	• 1988 Toyota Van LE) n4 u8 q7 x! L: l" X
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ! C& E' ]* F. q/ B	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser ) w; b! I6 L2 U' b% s
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE$ I4 S( k* x4 P' e	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR54 l+ X- Z2 w; q1 j- A* c q
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited + b" b: U. n4 R. m* T	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE$ K8 _3 t1 c, Z6 d) c# `1 x
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 2 R3 \9 V) s3 e! q- a	• 1987 Toyota Van DX * `4 }" x. u& a: @& A
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE8 B2 s4 C" G! p6 F	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window- M' g# _" ]* l4 U
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5! a. F) n1 ^% }4 x" g) k( e6 W	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton* `9 z# n9 `$ K2 v2 k8 X9 t! P
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE9 y, B0 w! @1 y( g	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR59 { [9 e7 g) O( u# [. h8 W( ?
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL: W5 E6 u% z$ N# i. e	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX0 G# ^: D# ~! d9 s. X2 l
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner ( e a; @& \( d! W. _2 h	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 1 D, k+ z1 z* I: \|: P0 C$ e8 \|2 c
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE & x' f; H9 l& t. S1 I- ~; I3 u9 i	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX0 ?/ X/ V8 ?3 @8 r% @
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - F2 P. {5 a3 X R3 B( _	• 1987 Toyota Van LE # L6 l! H$ r3 u" c
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE 7 U% l* J9 { L* g. O	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel& M- U3 u$ L: g) o. x O
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE - g' }: s. n5 ^# U$ Y" \|2 t0 `8 {0 z$ ^	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX, n1 _, Z6 ?7 R! {3 l `
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma # F2 S/ i: l" D0 a, V$ z, c7 {8 ]) P	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ' v6 U9 k/ D) e4 T+ B% h
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS6 v2 G* e1 O+ V	• 1986 Toyota Van LE" M. ?- @! }/ U( o, @ W5 O
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 4 a- r5 L2 [* J	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 q# z" W; H9 D0 c% b( D
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner" d& ? x5 r" V	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel, D/ j2 B7 D7 K- Q e' a% q! C& l0 V
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 " ~2 Q6 u* S. t; i	• 1986 Toyota Van DX h1 D& ~4 }8 V( [8 G! [: a
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited) {& b2 V5 [- p8 F, I	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 0 \& \|3 E$ T3 H
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE + u x/ `* W" q/ G/ }. E; z! l6 g( r	• 1985 Toyota Van + C3 L4 E M5 p: ?' A
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE 0 j4 ~. X8 `# i- N: [3 n5 P	• 1985 Toyota Van LE/ U" v8 ?( E+ p4 T
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL# q- `, \+ u+ V; ~9 x	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 2 B; e ~& @2 e8 O2 }& I2 r
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE - P4 u# \|7 z' K4 ^- k	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser * J& H% L' W% \| @. }" A
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited2 ^ Y0 t- e8 W. s& J4 J+ H	• 1984 Toyota Van DX 1 E1 G) }2 ]- `0 k
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE& L/ \|6 U2 N/ R1 \0 m	• 1984 Toyota Supra , y4 M6 {% b8 _/ v6 f* `
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE ) @9 G* f, ]& J3 F5 {' H9 y% {	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX. f+ ]+ B9 d$ t' ?8 E
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 0 {; d; \|& _( f6 l0 `9 y/ \/ m	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 ~0 X$ q' G9 C. r
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited 9 ~$ d3 P ~: t& U5 C r	• 1984 Toyota Cressida + Q# o4 `! M% x
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS4 p* \|5 i6 I( g' G; q8 @	• 1984 Toyota Van ( j3 B# T* {; I! \4 i- f) i$ w6 T
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE & m1 \2 C( }' Y% G' ?: E	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ( Z1 G) g. f. V& n2 V) @
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner $ F8 n1 x8 U% X# \|% l$ t Q	• 1984 Toyota Van LE7 \, _& u8 p6 }6 O* a. q0 o
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE/ u# B8 f7 B" t% b. K: P F	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE / j% g0 m2 N! K/ C' y/ [9 y
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX # }/ n/ Y" \3 r' d	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5! h" N9 T& C: K: C$ E
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; i5 a7 L' l( m1 e	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX6 Q2 a/ g; S/ ?% V" {6 g
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE , l9 T' W3 w' `" n' }	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE" q3 W3 [% h( c8 V7 ]1 \
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE. K" c" Y4 G) @6 U! ?5 ~	• 1983 Toyota Supra # E" _1 c; W1 l- Q5 B4 L+ ?* k
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma 2 q- a; [! g4 q; ]+ ]/ q3 r. Z1 c	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser ! Y6 ]* t' ^, z- L! e
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL+ r; e% Z ^3 {2 ]' g	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX2 [' \ V6 U$ X% a
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE9 V, _, `/ B5 E# t	• 1983 Toyota Cressida ' A0 a4 [; X# w3 W$ f+ U
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 4 h& K$ w6 _0 D* N' [6 Z	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 6 s" a. W9 W1 ?, I, G Q
• 1998 Toyota T-100 & d- S: J, G" F	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 m( b9 ~ i6 p
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited ! m4 l( v: k% }4 z( j	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 2 j* ?1 s3 W, j& @" L. ]
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE# ?1 c( d. l5 w: c# [" ]	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX 0 z7 U @2 I4 c- Z3 {- y1 [2 ?
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 9 T, A7 T- X0 G& ~" Z	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST, u) a! _( d3 O6 b6 M* [: u4 T2 \
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 0 h) \|- M/ _4 s4 ^/ y6 f# j' i$ T	• 1982 Toyota Tercel # U# y; u5 C7 O* { o) l
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX" T# z: f( E: n$ X8 e( S' S	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5. [/ R9 e# h0 K0 k
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma : A) ?6 h& h \6 x; K* S1 L, n* ?	• 1981 Toyota Tercel 7 z/ n% L! g" h' N! s- _
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS L9 H) m* E$ k( g# T1 u	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR55 P e) a0 S, }5 ]5 H4 w9 x
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX : h9 {4 k1 Q/ ]2 \|9 n	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 J+ ?" j8 T- u+ y
• 1997 Toyota T-100 , t) n) u) M' \|! J3 n5 z6 }	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX; e& z. P7 A/ m
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited/ u, A, i3 O& m8 s	• 1981 Toyota Cressida ) T0 Q1 ~! z) M N9 r/ O# {
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE$ e4 L) N7 F e# [6 a" n	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT $ u3 s( ^! k$ ^0 G
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 * z6 G/ @. p7 v	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 0 q# ]: c8 \$ B" T
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ' G+ _- z% D5 y# s	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser ) v( u& d! j$ O7 g8 b- r+ t
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR53 T& u1 K) T2 a" M( S9 b	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 0 ~2 A l! A& F2 [. y8 `
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL: g, b+ S, Y: W	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX) E+ [2 q, k, m$ O% k! n' l
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE 5 Q' H5 {9 J0 W% O0 A	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST2 \|1 I/ q0 C8 k
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner $ r/ [% x1 x2 ]5 e4 v5 R	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury1 {- S# A/ o4 j& J1 j! a9 S
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE ) q& H/ A! ^& [4 J8 i	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 1 W+ g a, a8 s$ ^3 x1 b" p
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE & b. l$ q( B6 C+ v	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 1 Z0 p1 U2 E2 W, s) ~7 w5 s
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX 4 B5 l! M* Y/ D. O	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe8 B% t* q! O7 H( m5 Z$ p: R
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE+ `# F- D# i3 B! w# \|4 T2 Q	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR57 H- R5 _, z/ b' Q
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ; \" j) i$ s, l* {# L

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
' \" }* l1 J; ]' SToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE% z0 a: D! I/ v
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE9 g* P; M, ]8 ]1 Z
&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
, [" x, k( H3 v8 R/ DApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表 ' l! ?" X  [, I' f! R) l* N0 B& x
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佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。1 E! `" K1 q- Y1 @) N
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由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；, L3 c$ g6 n6 W
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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