說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
; i8 a/ J1 U2 c3 C I/ X学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
! s& q( j7 n. X% k* ^ {楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 : o, c1 a1 f4 \9 w4 h {6 Z
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表 6 I: B3 C d* w8 E, M4 |& \/ z v

7 f; h' H- X; O! W看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE ! q$ D2 h4 \|$ i& d I	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE , W9 K3 d; s& }- g/ H, O0 t
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport 6 U8 z% `+ e" o' h* p	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE+ s% P6 A5 n9 _5 t' q' _
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE " B( Q! ~& T2 v! r/ O% H	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX ( S% ^% j2 u- T
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5& ^5 t8 j4 j( N; J; h4 }	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5' A) p/ Z7 G5 a
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 9 Z8 g) _6 D8 m7 T9 u6 X1 o	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE $ a6 ~" A8 ]0 u7 x/ @3 \4 N h, w
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE6 a( A5 h/ q5 y) S. [# _/ a	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 0 T! g9 X e5 H3 r- q
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid ) n, Q% @- t. I) c8 T8 J; o	• 1996 Toyota Corolla + \|3 y2 U: V- p. D
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited 5 h6 \|$ v; K: K# o) ?) H; {! p3 S4 u	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5. K& @; G( m# r$ {8 r; ~
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE 6 `3 G7 T! d0 [9 ^3 M+ o	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE 3 B- _$ I2 X$ X" V/ _
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE0 X0 _3 ~# ^. \, b2 R. u0 `	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ; m9 s- E" B. }% G5 v% C
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE" k. b" L/ o7 ?6 Q) J	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST! F; l1 H2 k3 H
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited0 J% B4 j' l! R% Q5 _	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited, A7 D. V" ?% a" w5 E. h; D& m$ o+ b
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . \5 i. a5 W1 n% f q1 t	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX 1 X4 j# s+ z+ D/ s; V/ L, `; U
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE ) B, t1 i w. c; H* Q	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 " @. Y) D; N: u* Q- {; o; L
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE + k1 m; b( ?; s	• 1996 Toyota Tercel , P; U' w1 `5 v. w- r( q) Y( d. o
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 . s) A% p e4 a8 ]' V! s	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX( n, J& S' c5 m% w
• 2006 Toyota Tundra * t2 J. _% H! {	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT! A5 f8 R( ]- v0 o- H; w1 b
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS( }( i2 Z/ \$ C C	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma / b5 k/ s7 g2 M ~, D ?9 C% T) G
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL+ D. g7 T' i) N+ S	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner . u0 V* ~* b, l" u9 V9 c- j6 W6 p
• 2006 Toyota Prius 4 d+ ^+ N6 @8 l	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX % q! p/ Z& X& M x! u
• 2006 Toyota Camry " G) z$ O; i7 J6 f" a7 \|( b1 L	• 1995 Toyota Pickup - U) D, m, {0 h' \% T2 f# s
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring' t* z2 L# G7 d! T	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE( e' ?; z1 ?% D# P! p0 U, X2 q: f/ \
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 2 \* ^9 Z) r" Q: T0 M0 _. o	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ; Y4 c+ w, J' x3 g
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE* M: U! h+ r' Y1 x; G9 B	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton + E5 r5 x$ Q; N8 _
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited7 ?" \: @! w: H2 U# c( X	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 * ?- Q& U. g' L4 N6 X s( k
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner2 W; i* }7 _2 c8 z& B T	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 i" W0 c; L; R; A8 ^
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 * D3 R' t( b$ I2 A2 x7 z( x	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX 4 P1 M! q. A: K6 M2 V7 n0 Y
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S+ q# D b& {! E( X, O5 X	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX' s3 M$ s7 U R
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited. L$ S0 e1 p- J* w0 d$ K4 R% `( V2 C	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR51 [3 ?6 t' @' Y! P) N( c
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE ( B4 A( \|1 I( H5 s' w	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 5 t7 Z! ?7 l! F( @2 P
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS . ~' r$ x' d/ ~* x& Y	• 1995 Toyota Corolla % D9 S i5 ? I4 _0 } R" M
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner b3 X# G V4 N4 z; F	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX. a9 u. s& Y# L# y+ L; t. n
• 2005 Toyota Tundra $ q7 X3 R" g6 l& R3 p	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE! S/ h$ M$ b6 o% _
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS& Z& a2 Y: A( Q. c- O# U	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX + V" @6 Z$ [) Z2 U; E/ R8 F; R" Z
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR56 A# j1 a: o0 D. O Z0 F; n1 c	• 1995 Toyota T-100 6 R9 x9 o1 C8 ]/ D4 E1 {
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited ! M& D* K9 _+ \7 {- L	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma c# w7 e( u, l
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL + J' i& q5 t2 {. N) T	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE / h' z6 ?/ v: g9 G
• 2005 Toyota Camry : B q0 c4 x% h( @5 ? b	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5$ y ?* Q ?- a- u, W
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring' w9 A( o% P: w( t6 N0 Y. a! i	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX 3 ?" l# T1 H S8 o
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE * \4 ]$ A0 a* w6 o	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX9 }7 W1 T3 @. R7 N% \|. n8 ^9 D
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE+ G8 i; o# P$ q; \0 P9 w	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX' T* u2 W! z# ]# [2 E; T
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited) m) g+ e, V$ z# \|	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR56 K2 g+ m, S Y& @5 x- ]" E
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ' I1 t8 ?) O6 p	• 1994 Toyota Pickup . }& @% ]" c; X0 k j. w& c
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S2 G& Z- q, x6 c% t. g! N	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 1 p; w6 p: f; {2 Q
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE 6 _! t5 T2 E2 r+ m	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE5 m% M! U$ C+ Q! f9 @/ y& ^
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited & c, M; U0 c: F T8 ~8 p+ ~	• 1994 Toyota T-100 6 Y/ Q3 D: V/ D3 z, H
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5/ W$ N1 i0 Z4 f8 P! o9 F* x% c" R	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 J$ L' F2 t: J; Z y# x
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE0 N2 f: a0 H, t+ [	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE2 w3 j, I) {3 [+ S% }
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 # Y! A" }0 `$ Y9 ]; f J3 {3 T	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX9 v. i& p: i, p- T, @5 k
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS & E) a- Z8 Z6 f' z5 a	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 0 N5 I W+ ]; [3 r1 I2 K
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE/ y7 {7 H. H0 d1 c. t	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 8 H# l; K4 H; u! q0 `% z) S
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE3 I7 B3 H( [ d0 b+ E9 ^% U3 \$ \	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ; W- e! l1 W4 @
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited/ ?- W! F2 s( j0 v1 T2 w7 E	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton " U9 _! c4 I' \/ C! _$ F
• 2005 Toyota Highlander + N$ C* s! u+ D" G U' \0 Z	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE , X8 g' V, o+ S7 O) g: i2 S
• 2005 Toyota Prius . T5 X% I1 j; C/ h. E$ Z! `# B5 z	• 1993 Toyota Corolla ( Z! ^+ q; x$ H" c
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE2 f& G4 j* D$ e' v: n; L& h1 U	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton7 l8 Z8 c" D& C; w5 C Z% i; d. R$ g+ ?
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE & W o5 J9 E" k, R& J1 \|/ A	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( L6 P! Y( [& N7 d( B' _" z/ R
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited5 S! \' H9 ~$ w! V* p	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX% ]! `" C8 Q' o
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 9 X& v6 c* {) {" ]	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX5 Y/ k8 e) e7 j2 J+ }5 q7 p
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE* @- g0 k7 p2 c, S2 I	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX 6 \% ~0 ]( ~. g! e3 {6 x
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE' M* Q% a! M: M	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ! \|$ q s+ [8 R: W0 B- \|4 Z
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE 8 ?- Z. q% i h3 {+ `	• 1993 Toyota T-100 4 [/ w8 g, x" `0 k ^+ F1 s: \|
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 1 @4 Y& Y3 u! ?7 K' B& T	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE / G5 r% e4 [. a: U" [8 ^. z
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited6 J, d) k; X: ~) v* T	• 1993 Toyota Pickup $ d8 f7 a9 @" K c. {
• 2004 Toyota Prius # {6 f2 N$ E- Y4 o0 ?# ^	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 7 D% t0 `. m v+ P: ^/ B( z5 o
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ) b; O' d/ f/ p. K* \5 ?1 Q	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE 5 G+ s1 Q0 p( ^# L
• 2004 Toyota Tundra ; g4 d3 s5 ]7 Z0 I	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5+ m0 M# }1 g" q; F
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE / `( B- _$ W! ^; X+ `2 R0 i) i O	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5+ E5 e$ J9 ]+ t4 L0 C
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited 8 \0 V i) `7 N+ _/ F1 k/ h; `	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE 7 y; N3 B' u* ~; V0 q4 M. ~
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited 7 ^" V) A& O: V- y. V- F6 c- Z	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE; {: F" I, X+ G6 U
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE0 I: C1 v/ w, T' H	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX% w4 N/ C* F. p* P; X
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE & H* L6 {: Z: H+ o	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE ( F1 K2 J1 v1 F) h$ @4 ^
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE+ x2 b) G C! k X$ ] @1 k: `	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac 7 d1 i2 \|& n. G! d
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited * Z- b: g6 @- g6 g: O* G	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton7 M9 R: u/ F& f) q+ G# f& A5 ^
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 2 U# I- u1 v; B+ w: Z- I	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE% u+ ^$ D4 z' B% Z" _
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner 9 ?* d4 C! o9 \, ^2 ]" W	• 1992 Toyota Corolla : `+ g5 a0 [/ [+ j. C# h
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 0 a/ f) d" Q( i8 U	• 1992 Toyota MR2 + e; _/ i5 e; j0 \|3 ^ i
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner/ J+ q! `1 a; ?& X	• 1992 Toyota Pickup ; G6 L! ~/ Z0 r" \5 n
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR57 K: G( [, M8 H! z) j: I	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 8 N4 L& [4 a6 r \! h
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS 4 T6 _4 z [' A	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac 3 h& u: T' B: o, \3 r
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner ! K5 t B" B0 ^- @' V/ w& @	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR55 [) u& z I7 _ l0 E1 D8 e
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S ) T) q. @0 ]" ]5 a/ [	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX ! }* J, e: w5 L4 z6 k# A. j% r7 K
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited & J. i; \# n! P) q3 {4 j- _	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner- T. e# {6 ^: G( f	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5 ( s4 S0 h2 J' i5 _( ^$ X! [	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof . n) @+ [, m4 R
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited ! O6 y) K w* h/ Z8 k$ Y$ `	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE$ P5 R& v$ W5 I: u( G
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE* Y! r/ t3 @) N/ ]' F	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' i) o1 }: \1 U; @% A2 k7 c, j
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT " E% x$ U1 L. t/ C	• 1991 Toyota Camry 1 P7 W" E& o. q
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE* j6 [( u: k# R6 ~& K0 w+ M	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser % H' n3 N# x. a3 l2 N% {; a
• 2003 Toyota Highlander ' \|0 X; F2 m" D, I	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 6 i- f9 ]7 K- S8 z+ \|) T
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ) {4 W* h8 X1 q* Z$ \	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 4 _8 c' G' A& G5 v0 t
• 2003 Toyota Tundra . `& K. j' d4 {4 ^	• 1991 Toyota MR2 % O( r% b& B( U* W" C" G
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE) f$ O7 G+ @% n% {4 s- q	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 ) R" ~6 b/ [, w' I5 e+ S
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited ! v" h, R* h7 _3 ~9 C	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX 1 x% r ^; p$ o3 b( }! t
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE. L! F3 B' c; Q; p( [* p1 z7 Q	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac( ^% \|( [9 e4 `
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR59 h( I: m+ J: M5 L4 ~( N1 \|	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ' ]0 `- q) \|- }" R: v
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE - \, @4 U3 C9 j% _, N& C* ~	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof 3 h; u3 X, o: w, J0 P) S0 x
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE * L* E5 m+ `+ B2 }: m	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX; U; \|) n$ g1 w
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited # a& ]* N' t* V2 R; w' \|0 g) r7 G	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE ; a; q9 O8 O8 v$ @7 `( ^
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited% l' s( ^ D; F9 B	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 5 Z8 F" n# V, l9 T
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited2 g- ?* ?( i6 s6 T	• 1990 Toyota Pickup 7 q/ a1 ?5 d/ [- F
• 2002 Toyota ECHO , q% ]( J$ F! } C	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ( S! N- I8 t) B. ^2 d
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE6 M$ p; l- i+ {. p	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 7 O( s6 N$ A: S# ~3 Q" D# c7 I
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 0 p; h" @; A2 _	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ 8 D2 d: B4 J) E' }8 \|
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE- y! \5 _9 j4 A0 h$ h	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT C1 h0 Q! ]- u
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT% C+ z* K$ g, ^( {3 [8 H" C	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base2 I. y" g2 q7 B8 v' D9 I% o
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner, [5 w5 v' F2 C% J0 R; C1 k	• 1990 Toyota Camry ) i( _/ s6 F3 K% e& `+ r/ M0 L4 S0 U
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S' \/ D" ~1 @7 B1 w- h" _+ s	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST( G8 V( D$ T5 Z! O7 g7 _. I8 v# U
• 2002 Toyota Highlander , D4 P% D5 m1 t/ o; c5 ^	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX7 Z$ m; J& O- ]/ N4 j7 k0 s
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner* F& H4 _2 Q, H3 l2 u	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 3 z+ X: J# P# Q4 v
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 5 l: ~! s2 w+ b- j, T T	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR57 L& d0 {9 I$ _7 {$ A
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR54 Y4 e5 Y8 U- a& g* j+ B! L6 t5 L	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS8 \|& s2 C0 _8 \! a: J) J! C2 X
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE ( D" e# d, {5 y. ], y" l! I3 ]5 R' q	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser i! K& z; f" e# _; D; ?8 C
• 2002 Toyota Prius 5 t4 \|& s W! d	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton' e+ l) _' t# R% L. b
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR57 x. [) k$ c4 U6 _* F- W	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX4 H* L/ [* F2 [$ g: h' H, Q
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS / u5 e7 ~7 E( Q5 N	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac$ p$ b9 v6 Z e" o* @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE p: ~ F- O' W7 U' P1 a	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac( Q0 d z9 p, n* g' H
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma ) ]" p9 N8 k' u	• 1990 Toyota Tercel ( W: R3 c5 S/ I* L0 L: i
• 2002 Toyota Tundra " P9 O! M1 N$ h0 d6 G	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac9 J! D4 ]- ~/ n& k2 l: A) w
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 8 q8 J# I9 U: n/ C2 A	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac : G- r* b) `* }" V. U# F( h
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE4 t4 Z( C/ @: c7 a	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 1 `* x. ^( g# _+ C& z
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL - k1 K- z+ X0 F- F; Y) w	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base8 \1 ]7 l$ r e
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited# t* l* j0 U# }, }/ T4 \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac! ~! H; a* `6 `/ O
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT. H* U( g0 j7 a. ]! z2 U	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser * U$ y; H" A, c# H1 u* z: k+ G+ O
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 8 T/ Z# t$ X& i$ F	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE6 w/ a' M4 J6 y5 N1 G- m; Y5 r
• 2001 Toyota Prius # m. v/ T! r& F7 ~$ m	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 2 S) K8 K! J0 E, E& a/ c$ j
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma - W B; X$ V7 V: m" ^	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton: H: H: C8 ]# F
• 2001 Toyota Tundra * T% V0 q" j+ I' @# ?4 D% Y	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger2 Q8 @- X9 w1 B5 l8 h# B I
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE% ]6 q3 n. R( I& n1 W; Z	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX " M' O4 ^$ h P8 f0 G4 ]9 @& v6 @
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited ) s8 v) Y6 w9 m2 p	• 1989 Toyota Camry : [6 ]. b7 {7 Q- t) ?0 I6 r' n& X
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 : q5 M! H a9 `0 _2 b$ i) r	• 1989 Toyota Tercel - f) e; \|4 N0 \|) H0 {
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE % S" }9 V2 f, J7 g' \ P	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX 7 b# U8 }6 V5 {! L
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE 5 c; N0 N0 M) ~4 E2 g4 X$ w	• 1989 Toyota Pickup ' [1 T0 b7 x# ?! S% T% x( j
• 2001 Toyota ECHO j5 `4 x/ S! N' h	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 : o5 w2 H- @1 w! c" B$ c8 a; w
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS P* A) a1 ^+ K+ f4 g# Q6 D6 T8 {	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger0 P9 K \|! q$ q7 D6 L* r: \| s
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE 1 \|2 N. w5 \$ d' {	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ " }4 X/ {! d% ~3 M$ O, r2 D+ @4 t
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 % ?( R/ d0 T7 N2 n" m	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel+ W, `+ s$ i( P+ a' J1 X, `3 R
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner; m( ~& {8 p2 x6 t X- c. ?( E: X	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX V( v0 J. V* V2 u
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS ) F5 u2 g8 ?: S3 u	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 5 b0 w1 x$ e* E1 i# @
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 1 d6 n: t* w2 M# N: _7 E	• 1988 Toyota Camry 5 Z' ~. b, h+ h- O; s
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner! J L4 p+ ~0 v8 \|	• 1988 Toyota Pickup ) @/ L- t8 k* s" }9 G
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 $ j4 Z7 c* N4 C6 T+ C	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger ' ]4 S/ y" ?8 k, q* }3 J
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE( B* U: N, v4 }5 k9 R	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX * G$ W R J$ \) w
• 2001 Toyota Highlander - Y" o9 ]/ j, E+ n( g% J/ n	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac$ E! f! s! e! E* u4 y7 O
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited / E8 E1 g0 \/ r$ X$ g5 q	• 1988 Toyota Van DX5 m5 I/ W0 _0 f3 N& j& @
• 2000 Toyota ECHO 5 Y: l9 [, O( y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger: ] U+ b/ r e) n' y, ?; \|
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma ( Y! z0 v1 S' s4 G7 l	• 1988 Toyota Tercel 6 O9 M& t5 M" [
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT # l2 w3 S }8 r	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE - m; s# ~5 \$ Y& g: F) Q2 {3 L
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE+ f3 X4 t% J1 L	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window/ C: T) P5 W( e! L' l. N) R2 g
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 ) T: x1 f+ Y G/ H	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton/ V; J8 \|! C7 v p, q# k
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 2 O+ d& V+ l3 U! t	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser + H( D* V5 R( w, O% L# g, Q8 U/ X
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5% }$ ^6 Z$ p% r3 Q8 v- v	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 n" Q9 M. a" g* ~
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited ?" a- Q$ `/ i4 N8 }. y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ) e8 v/ \|& V( d$ U B* S
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE 4 E* C9 x x! t3 \|' ~7 P	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B % b1 `9 I( {- U
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS- \|$ ?0 ]$ W, r1 `5 a. x	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 8 W$ l, q9 Y& F, i( O
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE ' Y: W5 F. X. N( T5 N	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger) R2 T# U2 f8 r' \|: ?1 O! U( j
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara ; G5 \; [: H% F: d6 Q( Y	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR52 x! m" p7 ]' u
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited; ?9 j; q* P1 F4 b# O' q: l! H	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX 1 d! f$ \|7 R R; o) C' k$ e
• 2000 Toyota Tundra " V2 \|# }( z% [. L	• 1988 Toyota Van LE5 g/ \/ ]- d* {( X5 p2 k& a
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ; p* \% O: U2 \9 y; D0 o, `	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser * H, ?3 P3 s% @
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE( u* S- B' f" m X2 T5 t1 ^	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 " ~4 v Q3 q# I0 O# h* r+ _ F
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 6 d; ]# z9 \4 m$ f9 E. Z8 l	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE , Q2 M% U8 t1 Y3 M: o+ \
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 2 ~ P! b' i! l, v4 f' q$ k b	• 1987 Toyota Van DX# j8 s8 B! J& d3 k/ d+ H+ e
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE * r( v% K6 Z/ ]: Y. r	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window- V3 Q A# i) I$ V
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5( @+ a- j. D8 {1 \0 A4 M2 L0 ^! \	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton . X b6 v, j2 {' z5 o
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE3 K1 ]4 f' y( g, p$ [7 k N0 C5 f- \9 J	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR51 w# ~( u' B$ ?- ]' I
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL9 E. @% P9 g- _/ z! v	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX 5 y) \|, F, h" {* b: Z! G
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner * i5 @! e# _" r; ^; ~# D. m; _. @	• 1987 Toyota Tercel ! E p) m+ r* r; t8 a! e7 b9 z
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE 4 d8 P. A7 b7 N5 s2 ]1 K! ~	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX% P/ g$ e4 E5 H- J2 M, H/ _
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + {8 c, k6 O$ d# f" k3 F; ]! ]	• 1987 Toyota Van LE * m, p* H; n: I# n
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE" b$ \|1 c( P" v6 o2 w6 I9 p$ [( J	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel5 u/ D. l3 x0 B- N R2 x! x7 v; P
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE! W' c! g( x9 E3 P& A, p	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX * W: C( H7 p7 A
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma 6 C" Y' \|" y6 e/ ^8 h8 v" ^$ H) X& V	• 1987 Toyota Pickup ; G5 W$ h9 }. \|9 \|
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS0 x. C2 l. U2 w7 [, {5 P	• 1986 Toyota Van LE 4 W( g! z( Y4 X) \|
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE % _; [; u, c6 D2 S; t) S; D	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 Y r" V* p3 ]+ L
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& d' J1 l6 Z5 s' y. O% c' Z# \|3 E	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel w% }) x- u. V+ @8 j3 p* ^6 y! B
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 5 e. R9 P) \- U& F( j9 v. E	• 1986 Toyota Van DX9 B" \3 W: [$ Q! J' v
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited1 _, V$ J2 d* {1 h# C	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window ' [ u& z1 m9 Y) v5 q2 `
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE, n; i2 [/ o1 g* v- Y, G6 F	• 1985 Toyota Van 6 C3 w& z' `7 T$ Y$ \+ s# _- w
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE% R- k- u$ a8 J2 ^	• 1985 Toyota Van LE0 \|+ E+ E" ~, h# F+ K5 h! n
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL! ^ c9 @; L4 N/ g7 z( Z: S	• 1985 Toyota Van DX 0 A% e$ r% K5 H6 ? X* i8 X% Z
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE / k0 N1 d4 ?9 O( x, ]5 E	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 o$ A3 B5 _1 l/ D$ `) B. r, V, }
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 4 r( t7 v \; m* G) U/ J+ D: L	• 1984 Toyota Van DX ) i5 H/ d3 l$ \3 \|0 q
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE 1 W7 {* H- v# C! Q# E+ C1 a	• 1984 Toyota Supra 8 p: Z# \7 Z1 Q+ t0 ~2 W: G
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE+ L7 g" X. H. j	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX& u- P; y; D! q: ^/ f+ m2 A
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE4 J* ]" \|! U9 A+ g	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 d: \: \|3 z: x n- t+ n
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited2 @! b6 c3 e- C. {- x. \* M3 C	• 1984 Toyota Cressida - U% e. x' K+ D9 d* U
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS . l, R( a( c: Y, V3 i( D3 M	• 1984 Toyota Van , @0 U) _9 r, U
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 9 E3 V) b* Q/ `/ i( F- C	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE ; E- y3 l5 `& x4 z. \+ q
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 1 H8 \1 r8 B- ~1 M	• 1984 Toyota Van LE4 K p/ \|! R! B' s0 P
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE # U0 R0 ]$ h8 C E/ j' s, s	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 1 ?( L' F, ^( r$ n
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX ?/ Z2 u3 K+ F! T2 y F	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5 * l2 w, T6 u+ w* C. t
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR58 K' _5 F0 _/ I* U	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX ) \|7 J( L: z) R9 _+ }, q, ~* D
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE / t; d- Y" c( I& j7 [	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE/ \|) o" y+ m/ t2 h
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE+ O- J; x3 ]$ O	• 1983 Toyota Supra 7 _8 C+ w8 E& n" U+ P
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma + p {5 F% @$ P m' v/ B& Q' q	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser & x0 L" V! i) L1 { W# K
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL. Y* \! u& Y+ A! r8 S	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX 9 A, R- e5 ^2 V) F* q
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE7 m6 }5 ^% j+ k" {	• 1983 Toyota Cressida ; _! k8 A+ s' ~, W( E
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner $ r6 [8 E2 H/ U& w# [ n	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 0 i$ \9 F9 z6 N
• 1998 Toyota T-100 5 @- t' e9 d- H; h1 S8 z3 R3 A	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser # Z) y( p( k* F. K! G
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited/ I( X; R7 D8 p' _4 N7 x	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 1 T6 t( }- z8 ]5 ?& w. y* j3 p
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE 8 @0 S3 \|& n8 G0 g	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX+ a7 ^) G* `9 _. t0 K( \- Z( N$ V
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 6 y6 R* K. {( ~2 c6 H7 C1 a	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST ( Q% R) e5 W6 q* e. x. ?
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 7 ^! F* `( y8 w7 ^" z	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 2 m& V( D7 j ~- v
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX5 q: _( a3 X7 C4 O	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR56 ~ ~) y8 B* I
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ; b; c8 g0 z: ]. s* T! I" N o' M	• 1981 Toyota Tercel / p- B, U) L- \& F
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS& a& y3 t" [) r	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 4 a7 p% j0 t& s
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX ( }6 U& Y a/ D0 m1 x- I0 l6 ^/ M	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser + J5 Z# J0 j0 z5 m$ y0 `
• 1997 Toyota T-100 ! V( M+ u$ z: G3 X8 X5 f k, F" K* L	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX( \|1 z+ J7 c. X# u; {5 Q
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited, k f, i3 [6 e0 M( _	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 4 t' q% d1 ?/ R% G5 E
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE1 a N& D; b3 ]8 L1 k	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT 5 O1 y) S C& \|" q# d: @
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) y9 T! s' } I: h7 @	• 1980 Toyota Corolla ) \|+ h6 N9 Q: r8 R+ H
• 1997 Toyota Corolla / R$ n" z0 p/ Y `6 C/ K7 L0 N	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 ?# l+ Y Z5 C& t. X
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 + M2 ?3 d8 C% N9 R	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe 7 G, M6 j& y, Q; U5 t% @
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL # f1 o$ R9 g* x2 e1 a% b% Z	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX / G- Z+ \|* l1 N0 A: b. r6 X
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE ( e+ n4 l% L9 m# S9 l, d	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST / X% k8 B ?+ w4 F
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner ' q: n# \. l: u( B	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury . \- F' P+ J# w* X& Y/ n
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE/ y, t- Y3 s* M# b2 O' W	• 1980 Toyota Tercel ) X n! H3 V6 K
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE 9 l4 B' d+ u9 @& ^ r* c& C+ i: p	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5, M" Q' _9 k2 ]9 ?' d2 o# Z# k9 H6 H2 j
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX & m% _, S* R$ g+ A2 X	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe ) [" D8 d1 _7 P4 u2 M
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE / I( }" ~& [9 ~8 R	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5. ^/ L4 t: ~( @3 q5 s9 K5 a
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - O4 B8 O+ w+ A& p1 \|* s

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 * P$ Q' S2 u' \9 P8 n0 H
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
/ E. o2 S" U6 {. b' `2 IToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE7 ]/ Y Q( A8 @3 i. e3 |8 [6 f2 U
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
/ M6 p3 Y S: \/ T: O4 H&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
& N5 f; L( D. o% UApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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0 Z; @/ A$ t4 @- c) r佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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; t. j* ^: b4 d由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：9 C+ O! v1 e, k7 D/ d, U" u; ]* D

! m5 M3 N7 H! \8 s# o. f1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；4 S# i' j; m7 ]+ o3 r$ @& U( |- ~
2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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