說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
: n# u0 C5 D1 [+ k" k, a2 t+ T学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 # s$ Q9 t9 m/ E5 X i
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

[ 本帖最后由冷眼看世界于 2007-5-30 02:12 编辑 ]

西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 7 c8 o9 a) B* S8 x, e/ k
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE " H7 R0 @% p# F9 M4 x	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE; B" ?) P1 c6 m/ t; ^! N) B
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport $ K$ c" p; P. Z- T2 l	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE. z5 E$ g, g2 b% e u* z
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE ' r3 g* F2 K2 E {0 X% Q: [3 H2 {+ W	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX# x: I$ K b: L6 b1 C2 l
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 - y% O. \- t% Z* s	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5' \|* P) ]$ [; j o* c1 l0 t; `
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE6 F- K$ `* }+ z; O1 F	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE % v: @! k( c! w X/ P
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 8 l% Y6 O s5 }# h2 v) G* U	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX+ Z& l+ o+ M- w# {
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid 8 K9 m9 M; x2 z. n) \|+ f( A	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 2 @' `8 K% d4 v1 q1 C3 u
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited 5 S4 N: Q0 P& f% F9 J	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 3 h$ v$ m9 l1 E5 A; h p3 d- \
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE . H; P" M7 E+ F. C. t	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE) u* ~- T: o r
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE0 u3 z( ~3 M9 D4 D' r	• 1996 Toyota T-100 ) ?$ S* B7 l ~5 r5 \
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE: \|7 }0 Z7 }8 d. }$ [	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST ; t& P- ]# k/ u& i# T
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited & O7 A" i% `0 g; ~+ K	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited! E/ t* N4 C( f3 X/ L: \|1 D
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner S% P% N8 D8 H: D) u9 t	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX : b; s% s- K9 \|1 v
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE * p- y0 _' p( K	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5' A! q0 @4 Y9 Z6 U' @9 a& h
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE$ F6 i: b. N. K2 Z; v8 W$ C4 {6 I0 y	• 1996 Toyota Tercel . ]! H! k3 m3 o# \# p y
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5# B. p2 ]9 J( T) t# p2 o9 p	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX + x- \|, k8 Y9 t; A
• 2006 Toyota Tundra " f# S# c# {: ]! h8 L* n	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT 4 ^/ V8 a' C% i& \|2 G- f8 f6 u
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS& t0 b3 z7 f# O4 n	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma & l* B8 C1 \|- i& B+ r6 ~
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL7 n; M: m9 ?. R7 O- e	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner - I2 b& z S/ ~+ A5 C
• 2006 Toyota Prius , P+ G$ [- L0 U& d) Z2 X: I9 N	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX: l9 u4 ^6 ?7 b F1 A
• 2006 Toyota Camry : c, V. t% G: E/ p* G d/ }& L1 g	• 1995 Toyota Pickup * m( q6 P, @+ G9 \1 Q. g N
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring! k% R; t+ Y7 R& r$ W	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE" k2 t+ R+ o l9 f
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma / D& q5 g8 O) E4 R; I* S5 }	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE 5 G- I3 f; L3 J* l
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE + I3 I% S4 T2 V; x& R0 [: r	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton+ V: X$ \/ P, M& I
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited# j# ~7 ?: a. z, z! \|	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 7 Y, Y$ m! \|; {: p) o ~
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner& q$ z3 Y( k2 x; S; d	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5 , k. k6 I( j7 }; ?7 h: R8 n( \0 f
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR59 @' {& A: s$ y9 o6 ~, b( n3 N	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX5 ]1 f! F0 l/ O. e B, _# d, m; T! l3 T* r
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S ; i' }" X/ h: v5 z7 O	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX 8 ^& k- q6 W- i- A3 q. Q
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited 8 a% \|* }3 W( u9 M& C! z5 _	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 9 o/ {- f; V# k7 \+ U4 U$ z; p
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE / S3 @4 g( b0 x' Y" Z/ N$ E	• 1995 Toyota Tercel 3 ~8 L( ?6 U, P Q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS2 w! G9 I# w) ^! Z2 O; k	• 1995 Toyota Corolla + e+ b- u' t0 {/ c/ P! j$ U
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner1 D, J i' P) j9 y; r	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX a7 X2 z5 b& ~
• 2005 Toyota Tundra ( n1 e1 x: w4 H: D4 V) f& ~5 z	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE9 q7 G$ w4 w/ H9 m9 O6 m" q# p5 K
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 6 Q2 F# R1 y" v$ I$ `* N( p8 E" a	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX# Y2 {5 M1 j! _- m* V, _6 Q( V
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5 - M1 g+ W% { _. w	• 1995 Toyota T-100 % T4 [5 t# i# T2 D
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited 2 y& r) e5 \|6 e3 H% r& x& p	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma ) \& ?- [# J: [4 p' L( X0 j
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL5 {9 x* k$ L a6 F	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE % M1 m) f0 C8 J o
• 2005 Toyota Camry . ?: Y7 k4 Q! ]! {5 f+ }	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5- X# M5 e9 g* c
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring- u, x7 p5 X5 r; e	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX3 J3 S/ y, V: p4 g
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE4 o4 S$ l7 V. I9 u# L+ a3 t: m	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX " v/ e8 Z3 K G3 v
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE 5 M4 y# g6 M. W# D	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX & _, c, c( @- _ X7 A) q4 L
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited2 S; F' p) j6 ^, G F	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR50 D" a f+ \|8 @, I1 U( _
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma ( ~3 O; L, D# S- T$ b$ E	• 1994 Toyota Pickup ^* m+ y! z4 z9 D4 ~# ]' {9 O1 R( c
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S 3 y4 }, ~, j- V5 U- w, Y' W4 J	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE$ z7 d, I( X! h- Q! K2 t
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE 3 P; \|0 k D& x4 G* M" f' e1 ~	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE 0 I$ e1 Q* B: D. p# g. a
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited 7 N' x$ l5 Q! A" V" F% U/ P	• 1994 Toyota T-100 1 n+ k4 X/ g" @9 L1 R+ b* i
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 0 Z1 }3 H& x5 i$ X2 P6 v. b	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 8 Q) X3 [2 o1 N; p
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE " a$ z- b" h2 M x4 u	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 6 t& t4 i) d' m8 z
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 ' M/ \|- q' p* D) g- Q6 B	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX0 ~. n& D% x5 l" Z3 }! I Z
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS5 u1 b4 \1 i W; G$ q& f	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR53 @- T3 u' a! J0 V- ~$ d
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE3 y- Z' L0 S$ G	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 1 M5 ^% _( E7 d0 F4 ]; l- s" N- n
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE5 g, p+ c) N' e# W	• 1994 Toyota Corolla ) \|9 A+ R$ U+ e) p n ~
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited ~/ }1 j; M! `5 k9 @5 O	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 8 x- u! c3 w' R3 n2 K. c
• 2005 Toyota Highlander 0 v: t' n: `# J* p: X0 Q+ d	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE; I+ V/ m9 p/ l% }, Y
• 2005 Toyota Prius 1 d4 I1 I- M* r i3 w	• 1993 Toyota Corolla : R2 L' C+ ]4 V9 x
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE7 j# b/ o/ P$ X/ n }: d% S6 V2 f' J- R	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton- J; N! H2 }: \3 \|% P& ~/ `
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE & L+ N! g8 e+ i1 ?! r	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 # C0 B5 F# z% v1 U) h. \* k9 {+ q2 M
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited1 Z \$ _2 z2 n	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX5 R6 c1 Z+ D' r- j1 G4 B
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 , p' x5 k& c9 b3 Z$ o	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX % S* `- w- _8 G2 g0 s$ l
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE 0 c" t% e7 G- \) K	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX; g2 t! t* v8 }' _
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 3 i, `) q. H. E" \|	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 ^! F! i0 r0 r& E1 O! q( f
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE7 l2 H6 k- ~+ ]; ?1 F	• 1993 Toyota T-100 4 H8 D9 P& h$ Y) O+ u8 \|
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE 2 M2 H8 z- W p! i; B	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE + e2 m+ S' m+ f; l/ M# S; ~; n4 U
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited/ j% d- G4 o: r. n$ X	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 5 A$ V6 [0 t3 X( P' j+ S5 ~
• 2004 Toyota Prius ; T* T) A J8 f	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE# w) {# \|2 j" M6 e- B0 c4 X
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma % P7 y a3 p8 n% u7 E. b# `1 G4 B @' K	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE & t5 T+ Q* M& Z
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 4 \|6 _9 h% N3 \+ n	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5 " G8 d3 U) b4 ~" s* E) d* o+ F! ^
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE9 q0 o/ h& [- ?4 Y	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 % C9 q9 I; q+ n* k* o5 \
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited% I% m& h, B7 F3 B! M	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE5 n1 w- e& k. `, U* k- i, b' N
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited) ]% y2 X6 S# x$ a8 y3 l& A3 F4 [% r	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE s" U+ p, h. T
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE4 y$ A* J2 L# R5 n2 b	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX ! H6 Y/ I+ z! j9 ~6 y) m+ x9 c
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE 0 X2 ?/ D0 z2 F7 x' ^	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE# E- m% a4 Z% U# }0 Q' \
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE* F+ L3 K, r- \|9 ^	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac. c) Y. Q* o: v# o, ~" u/ l
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited # T. u3 B1 L$ w ?" I, r) T	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 7 W+ `2 ^# @: ?# H3 d3 y; T
• 2004 Toyota Highlander # e* _ i: j7 z) X	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE0 m! h6 C, L9 y! P' P) Q' [! l
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner2 G. l0 }6 O5 O0 z6 l	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 2 ]3 Y5 P9 k+ R3 z) S; H. j7 E5 l
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S : k. Q. F0 G4 @+ V9 \3 ?	• 1992 Toyota MR2 4 J5 x9 x; Q% U$ t
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ; D! O3 G7 J7 f* Q8 Z	• 1992 Toyota Pickup ' Y/ T! V/ D( p$ V9 D6 G) z
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 " P, s; C/ ~) C2 ~0 ~, }1 ~4 E	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 4 R' {4 \. f+ Y
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS' T2 }" a4 C% b" [4 y+ F. ^	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac * H, H/ D6 Y q! ]- R
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner * W# s# @5 `$ o# ^6 R4 L	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! \! n- T8 `6 J- Z- `7 e) K: R9 N
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S * y3 V9 p; F# M; p2 E- E9 v	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX + Y8 S6 q+ C# [+ p: W
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited4 P/ E: H5 Y& H9 f! O	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 + E: s5 P. A' V0 L
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner& I2 [3 E4 }7 h* S	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser a8 t g0 M& z: W5 u& P6 Z0 ]
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5. Q1 u7 U; W* m	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof2 k @! `8 \|2 g1 k
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited; X% P) b* l. U" C2 _4 L* Z	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE 3 _# N; n! P# ?/ \) ]1 \|
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE . }. _- p9 \|0 l* q5 ~	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 R4 B" _" T* s' M0 y
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT7 z. I4 x" i: `6 P" ]8 H9 M1 k# T' v	• 1991 Toyota Camry + z9 }& j& n; p4 w& e# n7 ~0 t0 ~
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE7 {1 T! E% y* f; J8 l* v' o	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 a( B" L" V1 v
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 8 R6 X& f/ s# q	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ' N9 Q" z2 B* O) S4 w
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma " j* K$ p% [1 J1 R( x2 U	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX 6 @ M( h) d4 G
• 2003 Toyota Tundra 7 t' Q u: g! \|+ x* u	• 1991 Toyota MR2 - o0 ^0 E g V$ ^" `8 s
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE" S- k8 \+ j5 G( L9 [	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 r. I+ D1 }9 X/ p4 m6 }
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited9 A9 u. I4 Q/ D% E% v ^' r$ z) Q& \	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX ) L" x, [3 `9 k7 y8 g9 w9 l) K7 a
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE 2 I& r; o- s% F3 N+ U8 G	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac / g& l _) \|4 S' U
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5$ _- r, a6 b" x- ?) _; ^- D	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ( @/ Y- U: \|( F% h1 T$ r
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE ; L' X4 }1 V9 E& W7 X" u' G	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof; V8 t6 o' j( j/ e' ~* U9 W; K
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE 9 U- j3 C: x1 t V5 s	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX ^* j: [! d9 R \2 s
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited* @: e# ^9 D b3 V7 V	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE# o4 { E, X: I; z. k
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited 0 c4 V% ~# z# j$ g# `. T H	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ' x2 ~, D) Y! M1 Q+ Y2 E- }
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited) b' d9 q3 n/ t; y* o	• 1990 Toyota Pickup % q. A' \9 m- y5 C) J
• 2002 Toyota ECHO # q$ i1 ~" D8 V* d2 d3 R	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE + {+ C* b: T5 ]! ~( a2 v9 Q4 W! \|& G
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE2 W; l, T: K2 ~" k	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 6 }$ \|8 i8 @$ p3 T+ V
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited : d: e. w; K* V	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ 5 \ t( H/ k8 }8 l' k
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE / D4 g! C" x! ~* g; [4 R+ Z! g0 s	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT 0 a, q9 Q/ r; ]
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT: ^. E9 _1 _$ I4 C	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base) Z8 v: J; R; r6 J7 Y
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner4 [- B6 m: l1 X) X$ u& d1 I* P	• 1990 Toyota Camry 2 L) v: v8 P' m! T
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S ) W; S5 m5 [ I, O2 ~, n! W	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST 9 S( ?( ~$ }1 t
• 2002 Toyota Highlander 8 ~4 K* v. s' A3 j/ H	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX # W6 h$ I4 @) k/ k# V7 S4 D
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # u5 x& \+ G6 r* r	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 2 A* x- s+ w' [6 u
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5/ x) T! k; N% ]	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' L& d3 G& D9 T6 G( {1 \
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & d4 O5 t" p1 c0 K; y5 R: ^ u; f	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS1 G6 p" H, L3 J3 R
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 5 \|6 n/ k- h+ h4 j% ^! x* K	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 B0 [, a" z7 s: D, _6 B+ E. x0 V
• 2002 Toyota Prius ! _/ d$ M$ d4 P0 C+ i5 X	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton O9 ^) f2 u% l2 [. M" Q
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ! H* a9 ], Y; @2 z! k	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX " E) Z! W; r$ d4 u; V
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS 0 q) \- z% ?) O* B* ^/ [	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac + y* C6 s% ] f% \|( V
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE $ h; q( {2 ~9 i, j# a% o! ?9 x1 E	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac & \3 E3 z. n! Q. x Y7 I
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma 3 S% \|* Q9 j2 m1 r: e8 c+ v	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 0 x: d0 [' T! S Y+ x2 h9 N8 d
• 2002 Toyota Tundra 0 B1 g4 }* U+ p- C	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ! n0 B# t8 M5 V1 {; @% ]
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE ! T( O0 e, R" _5 ?	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac# x1 g( u- M, t: i( u
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE: c, S+ S7 c9 M( P$ o	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger8 p6 t& C' H/ C# C7 d
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL , c+ X3 B& ^- k! @- l3 f! `+ w	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base1 D6 h! u9 s( ^) t
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited + `: S; x- i" p9 ^8 a7 [	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac . U+ `" d4 k5 I; M
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT . ^, f$ g! ]1 G6 h. T	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 6 E0 T/ B8 F" t
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 7 k0 \|, Q% o; K' V! S* u) T$ C* o, @	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE 3 ^5 b5 U- d) P2 d6 E
• 2001 Toyota Prius , J; x8 _7 q9 d4 Z	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 9 q# k8 x( A6 @0 o5 z" R/ x3 \
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 6 z8 T/ ~# x; U	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton8 J/ {6 H: t. q
• 2001 Toyota Tundra 0 @+ Z) e5 q2 e/ V	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger7 N: a$ ?: z' a$ g0 w, {- S0 B
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE, w- ~$ C/ g7 v3 c. F% K( Z	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX / E9 r6 Y2 h' d$ I% ~/ @
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited$ ]1 T- l: C8 a+ ], ^0 E: Y	• 1989 Toyota Camry 4 C" x9 y$ M& R( j8 u& ~6 e
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ^+ c% Y3 q# t5 v& ^	• 1989 Toyota Tercel 4 n( @; l, I! ?
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE5 p! a" S# R2 B+ c* `8 ^	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX & D# F2 E, B: ~9 \& Z. o/ ]
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE$ h5 G7 n6 d! k$ v% L+ C	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 7 G- m, {! G9 { s! E# I1 y1 `1 [7 p
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 2 C: t" L8 ?1 q/ L( \|) s9 ]7 D	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR59 Y7 B+ \|4 K. T# {& A
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS _+ x1 G! k) c1 u# B9 s2 B- i	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ( a2 Y) N) L5 k% z3 {
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE' l) \|8 F, m( w# q& K	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ2 s- g5 Y! p% B' v" Q- S
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR59 O8 \! ]3 J- M, L/ y" Y: E	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel# n2 x7 m! c* m5 l( J% x# n9 l
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner9 n) X/ N3 n* ~' N5 N/ B	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX; y& @6 i& M, ]; \|2 Q- s2 H
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS 9 j' y" M4 C5 s	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ 0 F- m/ W; a2 q9 X
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S * j' i, y$ _# y5 N6 W4 c6 ~: W	• 1988 Toyota Camry $ x, ?* s, p+ i* c7 }, G5 i) \|
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner; R! @' K; M* A3 s, \|	• 1988 Toyota Pickup " t4 X$ \|- D1 H, p) O+ U0 Q, _
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 9 a( S. Q7 o' f0 J& T* U0 }" e: y	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger " U! [ n* F" V6 m) {, j7 B
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX( X6 }- w) }, p& i4 Q
• 2001 Toyota Highlander I2 l* S( a s: F5 q	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac ; t! q' E( D2 Q2 L( g) z$ K
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited & S& }1 X, ?( M6 l	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 7 k3 f: B* e3 @3 i5 z
• 2000 Toyota ECHO " n0 E4 m5 e- q/ G( M) D6 x+ `	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger . F# \. v6 Q/ I& ~0 R; N
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma " j3 S3 W- S* z7 j	• 1988 Toyota Tercel : ^$ Z' z) H' ] w0 j8 X
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT C2 y6 O2 F- A9 B/ [$ v% s9 C	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE( K, m! N: D( y5 E* y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 6 U# X, z7 s4 m' _	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window. ~ d( v- \|6 n. c) f
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 7 g0 M( N7 j& y. f" z$ ]	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton Q' K( p3 T: i6 j3 i+ b+ c
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # E9 G! P& y! b: Q% u	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser # a2 O, N6 g) j8 x0 ~
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5) c+ o( u \( }& D	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5' C( w6 m9 A/ @5 w; J" d
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited : H3 y8 V6 \" ]4 ?/ h( }. Q	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 9 \3 {+ v5 [. ^+ R
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE ) ~& j2 F- u& W' i y) ?	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B. ?% f( ^* ]7 i4 G1 S5 `9 y+ F
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 T: }' b; `* d. L2 _$ L	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac & u$ n m* o9 q# z+ M* J
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE 9 v0 U' x, h' D, {$ Y V	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger( {8 z& j6 E; D5 O3 n# ]
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara $ ~6 @' k, d0 T1 _# L0 Y# M	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 1 ?( R% g1 I/ u& A) m6 D4 C7 l
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited 7 {3 l5 L, n2 o4 R5 N6 o1 N7 w! `( f	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX# {( {% P2 O+ A; q) a) o
• 2000 Toyota Tundra w7 _, C; L7 P: g	• 1988 Toyota Van LE ) c; H6 R. Z5 h) C6 i( u2 W; g
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ) E# M: B( `6 S, o/ D4 k- T- y	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 7 G/ M, v+ k, M
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE! v; R% D, U& H( j3 a	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 + q2 q2 c$ R4 j8 V9 H4 r& N3 Y( t
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited3 e, u0 \|; s& j) b, C	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE- \|) J( [& Q/ h. f0 F, N
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner 5 ]! Z6 m ~) h! j5 z! X) Z	• 1987 Toyota Van DX/ C9 l) J# `) k0 m
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE" e5 ]9 m7 I! d9 ^: O	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window7 N1 o1 v+ \|2 K" D' w% Z
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & G0 c8 U7 `8 `# w7 u# R	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton' j2 U" Q+ i. x# j
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE& y& R# H! g, Q. X0 b4 ?	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! ~' U8 {* ^$ c, F5 {
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL' z: }% ?+ m- W$ e( ~	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 M- [$ s* ~$ O
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 4 _/ ~, x/ N, L2 T	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 5 o- k# S( e$ p( k% o6 t
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE ) P. ]' [1 D, v L" z+ e	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX5 g( e! ^* o( Q9 ^
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ A9 G. M9 K- d9 D	• 1987 Toyota Van LE/ O# M* i' c) _# ~
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE% W8 U" v+ `4 J	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel& o. x: ^8 ]1 x r: V
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE" J+ S6 j& E4 }5 x- I, D! I	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX , d) ~" ]5 I& A
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma $ H3 j0 `0 @3 u. }# T	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 3 g( c! V3 \7 e; W; ]5 w, G
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS0 b( r; k. }8 \|) \|& x	• 1986 Toyota Van LE 2 I6 d* \|6 U, k u1 X$ I6 v8 ~
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE$ P$ U v( k/ i; p	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 z7 z9 D3 Q+ y! `/ L
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner0 `8 U, I6 T' Y. j	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel / F+ e! \$ Y; y/ ~0 {$ i1 @
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 9 I/ E1 m# q- r- Y3 r* l) J	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 1 V) `) C5 [' w0 G& Q
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited : \' F6 \|+ j! g+ }( W/ J	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 9 t+ e; e6 ]* J, [, t
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE ) P$ z9 i Y. A: M! m/ [	• 1985 Toyota Van I1 b8 K5 m' F; F; G& w6 w
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE * }+ E$ s; L3 Z" W: \|# \2 `	• 1985 Toyota Van LE0 {0 D% @4 R- O* I9 F
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL% r9 W; c x6 q9 w6 @! a	• 1985 Toyota Van DX$ K$ Q8 N8 ?" P5 \* I0 @1 @
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE* \|- r; _8 V; o6 [	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 2 D9 z1 W% h: K7 K9 H
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 0 l& G I5 I8 j2 ?/ v	• 1984 Toyota Van DX 8 z& m5 {/ r% x. N W' Q4 n) h
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE4 [: s$ L$ A) k$ E/ \; O5 O! I' E	• 1984 Toyota Supra 1 J: }5 y# ~, L% F" ^
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE" ]3 S( v0 j3 f8 ?( [9 Q	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX 8 f$ l% ^7 v0 _ ~+ k% Z* \|
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE 0 W/ L8 g( n# X	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser : q- B. Q* s0 }: G' y$ T
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited4 a' O6 _, F! N l	• 1984 Toyota Cressida $ G1 G3 V. x$ `" u8 ?( m
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS8 g3 ~! ~7 Z Y P( B2 ]: v	• 1984 Toyota Van - i% M* k3 ]* _0 P# C
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE & A6 t" k4 @9 R	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE# a: F4 W# u# q8 S/ W6 R) Y/ C t
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner . o4 o. h2 r+ M( T# m	• 1984 Toyota Van LE $ F {5 A% N) Q2 ~, o% g
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE% ?/ Z- A6 p9 @- W; ?' Y' W& y	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE1 D" E4 Q' A, \|4 J
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX 5 h9 s5 g+ P3 r/ c, b3 T5 i	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5( p5 c2 W, r! Q$ W J- y0 u
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR50 _# b! j1 h) X) Z1 x	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX2 P# T g9 x" y( P$ E, f
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE " u/ u! {& P8 ^: p, V2 H	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE 2 k ]# ~) \|- W* `. d& s
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE ( b2 e' Q. [& h* F# X	• 1983 Toyota Supra , K+ ~( q! c2 q, L3 E( V6 Y; f
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma ( A2 m. K* i6 r& t) n+ y$ E @	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser + {; _$ U2 J% n/ ^4 O
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL6 X! t% L6 E3 f3 A: V	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX # Y' A3 @# _) A1 k9 x& v* c
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE & S9 s9 i8 l' o	• 1983 Toyota Cressida ( c$ M# Z; F. Z/ q: A j' E
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner, v; m c5 n7 ?	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT 2 C! A6 E4 l% M/ D6 T) u
• 1998 Toyota T-100 9 R: w' u* w0 U1 m- O# q	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 i/ G% \# ^3 @8 V& a% l6 [6 ~5 I, g
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited 3 F- M. Q( f& S	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 0 Q& t7 c$ f' R3 _* B
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE9 W& b1 w4 J: {+ m- T- D4 ]	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX1 E/ M4 y' V' e+ h# ], T
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 ; u( I9 {0 k# M% R" Z& K' r; N; X: y	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST; D. v8 c% `7 e% P. M$ O2 a
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 6 x }6 q* K) Q/ ?& M) ~+ I	• 1982 Toyota Tercel ' Z5 i1 _* H" @; X
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX * Z) {! s3 T( z# L8 e; \: d	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5 / b/ u# L" O p- _# T
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ; F5 b, r8 e: V- C2 r! ~( `	• 1981 Toyota Tercel / M* X; A+ U& h2 f+ _+ ?) R$ @
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS ; h# ~9 x0 \|0 q8 H) w	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5& D& l3 v3 N5 R# x) g
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX! t* u: j* s, K7 I: a* {	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser - g' q# @1 r! c2 \|4 v
• 1997 Toyota T-100 1 k. F) K+ c0 B+ S1 _5 y# Y7 f	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX ; N4 c+ Z5 ^' k9 k8 `' Q
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited - H& q l' F# q R: B; {: R	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 9 p+ ~* L6 X% }+ s3 f
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE" e$ ?7 I7 S6 _: J: i0 x	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT! S: g ^ G$ b5 u
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 7 ?! } L' z, J9 y+ n3 o	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 2 \|/ ~$ k- m0 b" i
• 1997 Toyota Corolla ( v0 W+ G: u+ }6 g/ p* u. R( \) k	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 G& ?* X5 `. O& k# _- Z9 c
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 3 J6 B8 `: e* X" l	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe ) }# F: F* y3 u% A# }, y& U
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL+ s" v$ v4 A0 @: f _% [( S/ V	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX - [; v! K0 L* k
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE ' O$ w6 }7 f$ b2 k+ H	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST8 O% Y0 S$ G2 O) ~( b
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner ) S; H1 y" H! X4 w4 Z! z8 A' E	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury 4 K5 M! h: X2 `8 P( }
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE' G' [" W3 b' `" Q0 j) x	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 6 J2 Y, Q. S5 Z% _5 u: Z
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE8 {1 E7 B" D/ D! a0 O ^	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 : G# X$ ^: j- i+ ?3 O9 Z
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX* `% k; \, q# T8 }3 T. Y# ?	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe$ V9 X" l* m+ j3 B( C$ f
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE2 e% W* u7 l, J& ~	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 8 [3 J% n3 D/ v# _
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2 N% W8 B6 _$ \8 G% I5 f

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 ! [; s: J* Z4 X& @2 a0 t- ]5 X* ^' m

/ s5 `" L3 a- |1 m如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
# r; G( t7 Z5 x; k. I- R6 T9 DToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE3 H+ |2 O( Y5 F' J! O$ ~; Z; v; e% L
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
6 t( H% r) C; Q&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表 ; Q. y4 k7 z/ G- `! h
April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
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$ s. Y' \/ m: y/ p5 |* _7 v: h9 [# l3 k% l- a8 G
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。 F# Q5 \& U/ _6 a5 s
3 k/ ~ ~. {. u! A$ ~& t
由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
# S, D& U. n) B% r% F) V* }8 d& Z. E* F9 f. l! n# Y" d: E
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
) h% r5 z" i8 I" {4 `# J2 j2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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