說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
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小猪豆豆

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表
: p/ t& ~- f4 y6 O6 r" U学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

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冷眼看世界

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

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酸葡萄

原帖由 一尘 于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
4 W& `6 t2 O& b: J楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

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' T# X7 y& r7 N9 n, B四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人

悦耳的鸟

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan

仁者见仁，智者见智。 北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

3 P9 T- I' z9 j1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”
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5 N3 C6 W+ r& m9 O! v    http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp
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2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars
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      http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm
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3)   Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

$ p1 U& K9 k. z. v      http://www.iihs.org/
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9 }' c5 O: r  a( \, C* }" [      http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表

看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

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4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

6 v( ~# ?* P) n不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."


$ Y, \5 v% a( b) c5 q就我的经验， 各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜， 便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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2 j- l1 Y  |% h  K$ u/ K2 q4 p4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

0 e& S$ X  E8 F8 N) G. |/ X$ k5 F    http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

9 G+ k% ]8 M" S4 J7 @不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 20 ...

: t) `% H& p9 Y5 d如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
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Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE 7 a) v$ n" s* {) b: {9 G! ~5 Q
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport / \$ G; ]6 G+ J# L- r* A1 |# q2 L	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE . ^! {1 z+ ~( r8 k: T	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE . y& w. ^$ Z% l3 P% x2 k
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 6 B' a: O5 l4 ?8 g	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX % m9 R8 H; ^9 h9 U- p$ b' V. t8 D
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid . {4 M1 U( D! t* d2 ?	• 1996 Toyota Corolla
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE * q/ n% \6 t, h; b- E	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE 7 f: `1 N( L) T
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE ; O% q4 K4 r! W1 {( r" q! z	• 1996 Toyota T-100 # H  p& j3 s% j" n: [& J
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE 2 l1 Y% a& n7 k2 f! E7 O0 _; Q7 K/ ~	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST ! M& R% |, w& p' w& d* _
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited & I$ i1 i/ }  S& v# V7 i: [	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner * u* M5 S# k1 x2 v: V	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX ) ^* q; {4 k+ H; I! A% P
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1996 Toyota Tercel
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5 ) Q4 b% X: q$ @6 U/ \8 |	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX & {5 i* m$ a5 k2 J: q
• 2006 Toyota Tundra	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma " c% v+ B  L9 T+ C2 A
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL : m2 Y; L6 B% ]  M' C	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner
• 2006 Toyota Prius , I. f; f( i+ m0 J	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX
• 2006 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota Pickup + y, m: X  X2 W; h& T! k' Q
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE ( b3 ^# C" f& L+ j2 R7 H
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE & p! t' i% y4 @( Z	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 ) v/ a% J/ }# x
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR5
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 - m4 J  ~5 [0 X+ B$ }	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX & X/ @- e0 [/ N/ [4 R0 c! X
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S 1 y) T( F- ~2 O2 A) r3 A& z: v	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE   m( y6 j* H0 ^$ g7 R2 Y	• 1995 Toyota Tercel
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS   `9 d3 e" s9 {5 v$ J0 c) {	• 1995 Toyota Corolla 9 H: D7 x3 h- X  n* }
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Tundra 5 G8 X) J) |# S8 L8 I! e	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS 0 y8 a- l* L( I! c$ {1 @" R	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1995 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited 5 u9 R1 A, X6 \1 q	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 3 X5 ^% B5 I' t  p0 j! X" Y	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE
• 2005 Toyota Camry	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring 1 L5 {* M0 s# A% e$ a	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX + O' f* h3 o- F( x  F
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE , T" o% u6 k0 z3 {	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited 0 ~2 [. b9 W0 o' i1 y	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR5 0 a# T* {0 j: a/ L) ]; S
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma * K5 O  y2 E3 _& c' D	• 1994 Toyota Pickup * G0 V; o# ~, l; G
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE 5 F1 s* Z: z% |6 p( U5 N$ s. m5 L& `
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE # g6 Q1 X. N- X5 p& _	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; `' p( d5 \1 f+ c8 w	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 - a6 C, j+ `5 T( B0 v
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE % X$ [. B! W  x% i0 a: M) O' |, @
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 5 o3 z; ?0 u3 \	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX 6 u# w2 ]5 G( w; T  Y" @4 P) K$ Z
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS ' u8 s' M6 ?& T	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5 . i, z3 ~4 Y9 A, ?2 d6 w
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE ; j2 d5 r1 h0 s7 r) `/ ?" j
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1994 Toyota Corolla
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton
• 2005 Toyota Highlander % L7 {/ }, t; T3 g- p3 a$ a% E) S	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE   i* b" B- A/ L' Q! W9 J
• 2005 Toyota Prius " L4 T5 W. V7 O, B	• 1993 Toyota Corolla & @+ X; K% y3 X* Z( D  b6 E
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 1 l" @! |1 g( _8 t	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5 " Q3 O6 p4 u9 _% C3 V
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited 6 Q- P5 p# N# O4 @& {: M" ~	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE , {$ k5 ^+ k4 `1 p* H- e	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE 9 t3 P* L+ t5 S( A! K* R	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 t1 c) S) h7 I
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1993 Toyota T-100
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited 1 b3 h7 X1 @' v' l3 `) H9 u. }* b	• 1993 Toyota Pickup 9 B! j; X$ p3 F9 z
• 2004 Toyota Prius	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 7 ^" Y4 K- C# J3 a6 e
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma ! {  B8 s7 g2 T3 b( s% |! E	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Tundra	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR5
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE : t# J+ v# I' a  ~; z; ^	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5 - f2 v( K$ L4 M* Z6 u( X
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited * S5 T. s0 N  U& d' O	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX * D7 g9 ^2 r" h5 J! Q
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE , H: B/ ^/ O7 ^8 _  V	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE ' n# R: E+ ]# A6 S# m7 r
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited # T% D% Z7 [- J* d	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2004 Toyota Highlander , Z. Y) _- T4 Q+ N	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner	• 1992 Toyota Corolla % i. Q: Y% X5 J
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota MR2 8 v& m4 z8 V* m
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ( i( J& s" w9 `/ Q  k3 k, Q* a: ]	• 1992 Toyota Pickup - Y0 {- x* a+ e0 p& ?6 y/ K
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX 5 S1 A! v  B8 h7 s7 c' m4 m, X
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner - |) I+ p0 I- h) l4 N	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited . g$ ]2 j! x! d) M7 x" `	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 8 [3 {  f! L( |2 ]; f	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 |3 \/ h7 N  d
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited ! R* H9 Y. L& H7 [4 h% g	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT	• 1991 Toyota Camry ' _& T, x2 b  K( W0 |
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 3 q; s/ z3 ^$ ~2 A, c7 Q6 F4 U	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 b7 q' F: m. l. n% H
• 2003 Toyota Highlander	• 1991 Toyota Pickup 3 q# r$ s8 ~! k. _( d
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma 4 M5 V9 z4 M) e3 _	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2003 Toyota Tundra	• 1991 Toyota MR2
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE ; L; K3 x0 u7 j0 T8 G0 n9 M	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5 " q, ]5 K& d5 [0 A
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited / \6 n: j+ ^# U; D9 U	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE ; D- x- {2 i& U& {& ^% [2 H2 a  o) z	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # \. T, a3 Z8 }
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE / ^. n: [" U: _" ^	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE + |; T+ g  X  H) c/ }# W	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX , c5 w" Q& Z7 o1 S+ v9 h  ~
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited " E# f: y+ R: V3 _; C	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton ) D- e6 k; O& u$ e, k
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1990 Toyota Pickup
• 2002 Toyota ECHO ! z2 w, {9 V( I" s	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE ! V+ l$ m* e2 F4 z' r6 I! V
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR5 # Q' R( V" D9 O. E6 \1 ^0 a: O
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited . A4 f% B( B3 P9 A	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE + U6 s: `1 A! X+ q( E- W	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT & X  T- v4 I; z* C
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner : {8 {( T) V7 u	• 1990 Toyota Camry . g) E- G+ y2 W4 A# I5 \# j; E
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST
• 2002 Toyota Highlander	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX # q' s  e# Y2 Z9 ]
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner # L( C$ }* R' K% k8 Q! z) E	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX - N0 u2 p' c4 \- k  C
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5 : G3 x" z6 u; p3 a; h9 ?	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5 $ }1 i* \6 {( {  \2 a
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 - a7 x. J4 U9 [/ C	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS   A0 X3 L5 S/ o. E
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE # P9 a6 Z0 ^8 {5 l% O8 f$ b: i+ J& R	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 1 h' ~* I; {3 c0 O3 @5 r
• 2002 Toyota Prius " w2 |( u0 D8 G5 s$ g$ c' [! b	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton 3 H3 b" l8 p; ]1 X6 X) W* L8 c
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR5 & H0 }6 V  z& b8 S7 n* ~$ e	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac # R+ o6 k% O8 i. q" @
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac + P" y! Y: a& K
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma - O% W; O, m# ?9 G8 x( F( [# P- l	• 1990 Toyota Tercel
• 2002 Toyota Tundra	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited 1 B! G) Y+ f/ f! u" W. _- L	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT 3 {  E5 [" g- M) J- T+ V& u	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE . K+ N1 r+ z! s& x% s	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE 6 O9 f$ o, g4 v, X0 U
• 2001 Toyota Prius 2 ?$ H2 q: b: {: S2 C; w6 h	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma # H: a0 z9 t& ?8 |	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton
• 2001 Toyota Tundra $ t, w2 {1 [) ~" w	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger & L" U, d8 ]/ |6 ~. ]6 W2 O# g
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX 2 a! L6 d, j  B
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited 4 a) B( s  L! U9 O& e& L	• 1989 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1989 Toyota Tercel
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE	• 1989 Toyota Pickup " x/ y5 F$ ~0 Q3 r4 \" k
• 2001 Toyota ECHO " |4 ^1 @2 o8 u) L+ T" y	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 1 K# E, ?" N+ D- [
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5 0 I. d) _' n- T	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel 9 Z8 i) I* ~7 G- B- @
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner * k$ p) q9 H: W# x6 x	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S 9 N( \, w- }" L2 Y+ I	• 1988 Toyota Camry
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1988 Toyota Pickup
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 ; E1 @, M) F$ s$ I: b2 \	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 2001 Toyota Highlander	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac * b2 O' p# V8 N  {$ q
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited 0 h/ c' e% B/ S# C$ d% _' }	• 1988 Toyota Van DX * R! I* q  e, ^$ A1 {
• 2000 Toyota ECHO " l9 `! P7 T: j- x) S3 n	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger + y' o# w3 |, O8 \
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma	• 1988 Toyota Tercel
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE 9 {. ^- [% W/ Z0 C3 G4 ~8 E* M
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window . t+ }% k6 d7 Z+ t$ V: r* A' h
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 0 v1 z( Z1 P. q9 H/ Y% [: q5 ^, v0 F	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner . I, {2 t8 {0 B* ?% A: e- @	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser . P  z6 w3 l9 U& }" n2 W; p
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 5 `4 f! K0 z$ R7 c9 y' Z8 S
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited + }2 g/ O6 B" b" i( G! e* }; q	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger ; Z( z3 U# d+ e( g7 {2 \) ?
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac % E; f! v) b7 t0 V& i
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE ! z- u/ j1 H+ G3 L  x, }	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger ) Z. L/ i/ x$ t( ?& Z9 R( K
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara # a# i( O% G, A( a	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX
• 2000 Toyota Tundra	• 1988 Toyota Van LE
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS ; S% L5 c7 y+ ]: a, Y	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser 4 M1 J8 M7 o( g2 I/ A
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE 6 t9 a7 A1 o' O; t3 b+ H4 J	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner	• 1987 Toyota Van DX : {" i6 k7 j5 {1 `) @
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE 8 H4 M! K9 I; O0 \0 U7 O0 G	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX + x( z4 O. h7 b; m& z6 k# u9 S. f
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner 0 K0 Q; n1 C+ T& [" |) t	• 1987 Toyota Tercel
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE # b+ d3 s# ]2 Z& e+ E: }8 S	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ' {% q7 k, K. e" f# E& Z, U	• 1987 Toyota Van LE 4 @. d5 [$ N! ]( |% Y5 z5 S  O
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE : E! \/ |0 }, I7 L- I- L' s9 r1 W( T4 B	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 3 x1 t4 u' n9 ]
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS 4 x6 W: T  G# I, }3 r: {) _, s8 {; A	• 1986 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE 7 j# T3 ]  K9 x2 J& V	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 7 f$ N: w. f5 W; _- e! F9 F	• 1986 Toyota Van DX 2 f0 Z. P* j) W8 p. g; C
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window * _( Q! |  f; {# A% t! d# g
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 8 i8 E# ^" \: W6 P/ N% C0 b	• 1985 Toyota Van
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE 4 |) a. e, c  X, ?7 ?5 q" ~( Y	• 1985 Toyota Van LE
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL	• 1985 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser % C) h: z( g2 ]
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 8 F3 c1 }4 [, ]8 }& t* T- N	• 1984 Toyota Van DX
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1984 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited + M+ V) I  V" w% N% W6 q1 ^- @% \	• 1984 Toyota Cressida 8 o% f* u' j% }( c' ^
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS 8 ^1 L8 r, d; Q8 C	• 1984 Toyota Van 5 l* I0 @& `/ ?, N! r" O
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE 6 n# {2 I4 |( F  n9 O, d	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner	• 1984 Toyota Van LE
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE & g3 f& U! ~9 O9 C! T  D	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 9 C" q; F, e4 a( M  R+ ~
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR5
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE	• 1983 Toyota Supra
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL 0 q7 \8 f9 D: l9 B. L	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE	• 1983 Toyota Cressida
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 7 m8 i& A, v  D& ]3 f	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT
• 1998 Toyota T-100 1 R$ M: G9 Y9 b9 b; o( T$ W	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited	• 1982 Toyota Cressida : S3 d0 s2 t8 u: I) y
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX * ]! y6 A1 z  N1 e3 R6 r1 n
• 1998 Toyota RAV4	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST ! P1 {- l- J2 q3 O$ ~/ t
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5	• 1982 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX 7 ?; Q) c1 P: q4 Z* \	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma	• 1981 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS 1 o* ]' H0 _0 y+ a8 r	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 , K# P/ L5 E$ B7 L; ^. J/ d5 P/ g% S
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota T-100 : m+ v% ?: w" P7 v7 w	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited , G- [: D) a$ Q* z& f' ?	• 1981 Toyota Cressida
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE 1 L7 h) Y; X: T# A* }	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT # a: a& \$ P1 S) S7 j* n
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 6 ]% g" B* O+ ^/ X" q9 I! `	• 1980 Toyota Corolla
• 1997 Toyota Corolla , J* I: z2 a( d* n, u	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe # w; ~* B+ x) D$ H
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL   D, _; s/ z9 ~7 J	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX 7 d+ B4 d' i  {' l$ C! _1 D. u  ^
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury 7 n! R& O- X- B% `) D& r
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE , a; t; N' y$ J3 }	• 1980 Toyota Tercel
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE : g% O0 I$ G% s) ]	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 ( ^/ D) d- P  @6 I6 t7 V
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5

yuanyuan

原帖由 老杨 于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表

如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
5 }: @5 I# X6 G) }Toyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
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: g% _# Z- A! Y) x1 c佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
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* L- O# W1 G: t0 i  h6 _5 ?0 y由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
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1 }" s+ B- J! J2 i; q3 d( E1 t% ]1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
) G' p2 g/ O+ ^! d% h1 E/ d: J! {2） 同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
  o' X- j% W& r3） 如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。
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最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

+ z5 B) a8 \5 j" m当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
7 t( _. w  A4 C$ x7 mApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

+ N/ j+ }4 y$ L3 S5 u; vThanks for the information!

老杨

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表


佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1） 同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
; A: O) B1 z% W" A# H9 K  X" P2） 同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin

实用的好帖
3 B% @5 v" o0 m* m' T  i# A% g所谓“越辨越明”啊。
楼主。
老杨。

松杉

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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