說說SUV 和MINIVAN

喜欢冬天 · 发表于 2007-5-24 07:19

个人觉得喜欢MINIWAN，我们出去玩的时候．老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃．空间大，很舒服

QWE321 · 发表于 2007-5-24 08:19

"老公可以从前座走到后面拿东西给孩子吃", you mean during driving? It is not a safety habit.

一尘 · 发表于 2007-5-27 08:03

楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140，偶尔150，行驶平稳，操控自如，一直跟车Jeep大切，没有掉队的感觉，全程平均油耗接近10L/km。
相对sportage的价位，这车不能说有多好，我目前的感觉是稳定可靠，物有所值。

小猪豆豆 · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:06

学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

veiclee · 发表于 2007-5-29 17:07

原帖由 小猪豆豆 于 2007-5-29 18:06 发表 ' R1 E" S* P; o) P2 w
学而时习之，不亦悦乎。受教了，感谢！

赞同！

冷眼看世界 · 发表于 2007-5-30 01:00

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表
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let's wait, see and wish you a good luck~

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西安转笔刀 · 发表于 2007-6-19 23:17

继续

酸葡萄 · 发表于 2007-6-22 13:19

原帖由一尘于 2007-5-27 09:03 发表 8 l* D+ S; s& s4 x; ]0 E
楼上有朋友说KIA三天两头需要找dealer维修，我买的sportage，半年，除了事故送修一次（对方全责），没出过毛病。上周末去了一趟Banff，calgary，四天1700多公里，车上四个成年人，有山路，有平原，高速110-140， ...

四天1700不能说明问题,我租过pontic 的G5, 9天开罗4700km,还是5个人呢,还不是什么问题没有,平均130km/h?自己的accord更猛,满载3天开到toronto,3600km. 过了一个星期又开回来了,全程9000多km.车的好坏要开long term的. 另外我不是攻击kia, 我在盐城的kia厂干过, 板金并不是很好,尤其是小车.不过我想北美的质检要求要高很多,是国内不能比的吧.虽然kia的质量有改进,但还有很长的路要走.

精品中年老男人 · 发表于 2007-7-12 10:21

悦耳的鸟 · 发表于 2007-7-12 12:45

有用有用，长知识了

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 19:56

仁者见仁，智者见智。北美最大的好处就是信息公开。大家有兴趣的话，可以游游以下网站：

1） Drive a "low-risk" car and “How Cars Measure Up.”

http://www.ibc.ca/en/Car_Insurance/Buying_a_New_Car/HCMU.asp

2） Visit Consumer Reports to start gathering information about new cars

   http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/index.htm

3) Check out the vehicle’s crashworthiness

   http://www.iihs.org/

   http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/

衷心祝愿大家都买到满意的车

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-18 20:17

原帖由老杨于 2007-5-18 20:36 发表
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看来您对KIA并不熟悉，因为KIA的价钱并不便宜。KIA现在主要是两个卖点，一个是它的安全性，一个是它的5年保修。

还有一项就是：

4） Search auto recalls to find car defects for specific year/make/model combination

http://www.internetautoguide.com/auto-recalls/

不是打击老杨，刚刚查了一下 2006 KIA Sedona, 才一年新的车就有两个recall了，还 "leading to crash..."

就我的经验，各个牌子都有好车，也有排行倒着数的，不能就牌子一概而论。此外，久经考验的好车都不便宜，便宜的车也有好车，但是有待时间的验证，就看你重哪一头了。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-18 21:03

Anyone gives some comments on Fort Excape V6???

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-19 18:33

April 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-19 19:27

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-18 21:17 发表
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如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：

Toyota Recalls by Model
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE * j6 ?9 w. H7 A0 X) E% U. G	• 1997 Toyota Camry CE& P; @* D5 J8 A/ R/ P) ^
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE Sport4 G" L: Y5 f8 W6 h& j	• 1996 Toyota Camry SE$ z, P- G$ b9 H, F1 J7 C2 O
• 2007 Toyota Camry XLE 2 E' b" W: S# G2 g	• 1996 Toyota T-100 DX7 U- I3 c Y2 `2 w. d
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia SR5 / m/ K/ c% m. h( {; c. ?8 X	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner SR53 D7 s/ m" u3 J, [2 H0 i
• 2007 Toyota Camry LE 0 f- A% g' o& `2 e8 ^: W	• 1996 Toyota Camry LE h. G( b8 b7 `/ B7 K0 {! C
• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SE 8 @1 V$ l( v1 L% ~	• 1996 Toyota Tercel DX 2 ?/ O" c0 e- w' ~# S% j( ~
• 2007 Toyota Camry Hybrid & h, y. [4 o8 x5 i	• 1996 Toyota Corolla 0 e, B2 ]5 q: ?8 p# k/ r
• 2007 Toyota Sequoia Limited( s3 G( V+ `8 D, R. ~; I) m+ R% v	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR56 N' v9 [; h# H& E* R- A
• 2007 Toyota Camry SE% d8 f: z# v8 X, {7 J	• 1996 Toyota Camry XLE ( N+ J- p: S# @* r
• 2007 Toyota Camry CE / T0 ^) L, Z6 i$ c7 l& C( i0 f	• 1996 Toyota T-100 4 F; K1 f$ W7 a1 p- d
• 2006 Toyota Camry XLE ' q& j8 E0 y* q* V1 n6 t l	• 1996 Toyota Celica ST - e& G$ s: O9 w5 R) w
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Limited & @$ F; `" y( V5 R3 Z0 E1 R	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner Limited! c, g8 ]4 J* v' @: l" l8 [1 `
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner7 g& ]; v- ?9 a9 l q# T	• 1996 Toyota Camry DX' r B, `! E( K9 \|
• 2006 Toyota Camry LE- \|! I R. s2 m. Q: U	• 1996 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) g! f g: k! K' Z' n) m- d c
• 2006 Toyota Corolla LE6 U& ?! N# Q2 \|8 C: ]3 }	• 1996 Toyota Tercel % \1 P# v% c( M' Z C8 m
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia SR5% B, n" M5 c- y8 \|3 q- m	• 1996 Toyota Corolla DX* ]. s: y' I0 d; H" d
• 2006 Toyota Tundra 1 f; N5 l+ d; \|	• 1996 Toyota Celica GT$ G) d5 E: T$ y# j; Q1 b
• 2006 Toyota Corolla XRS # {! q5 ]6 q! e# S' q4 E	• 1996 Toyota Tacoma % m+ a m: M' L: K/ k9 R/ E
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XL * `; Z9 V! s! G" z9 F6 k	• 1996 Toyota 4Runner 2 f" i# \| A. F! J' U* i
• 2006 Toyota Prius 0 O1 z+ C# U* H0 I. r5 ]	• 1995 Toyota Tercel DX5 \3 N( o* n) ]' ?% y7 C
• 2006 Toyota Camry 2 ]1 h% l5 A% K2 y, Z, o	• 1995 Toyota Pickup D, G: F9 D- [! X0 M
• 2006 Toyota Avalon Touring9 ?0 \3 P( i: B" `4 Y- J3 ^! m	• 1995 Toyota Camry XLE 3 h, A$ R* k7 b( t( ^$ Q; p5 @
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma 3 C+ h( S9 R( F& h	• 1995 Toyota Corolla LE $ b& }0 p V/ R% t
• 2006 Toyota Camry SE 9 t( ?/ {. z7 M	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton 1 S* S# Q% C6 d; g/ m
• 2006 Toyota Sequoia Limited8 {8 W/ h! B; w8 P	• 1995 Toyota Pickup SR5 ! e4 e! Y4 x, a% ^% \|/ [- u
• 2006 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner & q1 d8 e% I0 B a+ F	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma SR52 u; R/ o# ?6 z- a6 ~
• 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 & w" [4 m. ]5 n) f0 I9 J5 V" [	• 1995 Toyota Camry DX ' ?% T+ o3 t% f, ^, a$ H7 N
• 2006 Toyota Corolla S: t! w( f7 g$ @8 l% S, V	• 1995 Toyota T-100 DX7 J: `# T. b- k3 a) N
• 2006 Toyota Tundra Limited ( J. N) v5 M- m$ @9 l: ?0 s9 r	• 1995 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( x# o, y# e# O2 q% ~ F; P
• 2006 Toyota Corolla CE 8 v2 `) R# ~2 o- m; X( c/ s	• 1995 Toyota Tercel . u6 K. \|; ]: J' J( Z
• 2006 Toyota Avalon XLS5 o T) D3 N. v# Y# c- g	• 1995 Toyota Corolla ' t% f4 l# [) c
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner - Z5 v4 z% t5 z( m3 @* g1 d	• 1995 Toyota Pickup DLX4 G6 I" \4 u4 T K c! C7 _: p
• 2005 Toyota Tundra . \9 U4 p2 ^3 r5 O, A Q( @	• 1995 Toyota Camry SE 7 D/ g/ D& H6 A3 o( v) D
• 2005 Toyota Corolla XRS ) r! V- } l$ ~' Y% P	• 1995 Toyota Corolla DX & a7 L1 S6 ?. q2 Y8 A3 s
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia SR5: C& P/ [0 s( b' p	• 1995 Toyota T-100 0 D. C; B: [4 e$ I; h% [9 l- F
• 2005 Toyota Tundra Limited ' ~5 p$ \|0 ^8 b3 o$ y& \! d	• 1995 Toyota Tacoma 2 A: C6 U6 o" z! k. _
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XL 6 I* x% Y$ z" y# b/ P	• 1995 Toyota Camry LE ' b, u1 u, ?4 c. r' F% k% X
• 2005 Toyota Camry : ^7 s o; K6 a* m% K	• 1995 Toyota T-100 SR5 9 @. e2 h' N- N7 q( u: P
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Touring : l) V/ G8 }. U	• 1994 Toyota Pickup DLX 6 k7 E8 c. J4 Q/ ^
• 2005 Toyota Camry SE 8 n" H+ D; @& `. v	• 1994 Toyota Camry DX 0 Z1 c" g5 l% B- d, m
• 2005 Toyota Sienna LE W: r: S7 q( d @	• 1994 Toyota Corolla DX& P* o! o) e, V
• 2005 Toyota Highlander Limited# _1 x1 j o4 N: Q4 u9 b	• 1994 Toyota T-100 SR56 [5 \|5 \ c; \|6 u, ?. C/ i5 c7 y( T
• 2005 Toyota Tacoma 6 G* u. R) d1 ]. `0 x1 e	• 1994 Toyota Pickup . ^# B! e" }$ d* X8 O) ~3 X) g) @
• 2005 Toyota Corolla S " {/ ^5 X: d9 A z6 L4 A' v7 o	• 1994 Toyota Camry SE j/ t' R9 s' F3 x
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE6 Q) k$ }# e. W" S	• 1994 Toyota Corolla LE( E2 I6 w2 E4 J+ i
• 2005 Toyota Sequoia Limited - o& K' X ]( F. J! U4 F! u2 h	• 1994 Toyota T-100 % A e) L2 B) A8 W
• 2005 Toyota Tundra SR5 3 W& V w' ~+ w& C0 r6 S5 A	• 1994 Toyota Pickup SR5 $ l2 z [$ B4 ~ ^3 N( ]
• 2005 Toyota Corolla CE- K+ W3 ^# @4 O- y% B	• 1994 Toyota Camry LE 7 J; [0 o4 h$ G* d+ y
• 2005 Toyota RAV4 + B3 F; s& e4 I" N) Z( W	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX , u4 Z0 A: Q/ ]* m2 @" ^4 p
• 2005 Toyota Avalon XLS5 }8 J% W1 {% Q ?8 ?' d( _& p e. ]! D	• 1994 Toyota 4Runner SR5% X% D9 I1 \|+ K8 H& ^4 ?
• 2005 Toyota Camry XLE ( z/ _9 H( R( C0 t% g- _1 @	• 1994 Toyota Camry XLE 0 E. T; O$ M# k3 P1 F Q0 i/ T- ?
• 2005 Toyota Sienna CE* g7 v3 r; ^& ~	• 1994 Toyota Corolla - B- P1 E( P9 C, ^
• 2005 Toyota Avalon Limited6 Y; u: u$ n% r7 c$ J- j2 p/ _	• 1994 Toyota T-100 DX One-Ton8 f6 m/ }$ x) D% F" ^( \. \
• 2005 Toyota Highlander ' p! \! V+ H5 O. ]9 g! `	• 1993 Toyota Camry SE1 T N9 L7 F% X- W9 w% @
• 2005 Toyota Prius ) @4 T& t- o" E* H1 h	• 1993 Toyota Corolla " j& @. Y1 r2 A9 x3 w
• 2005 Toyota Camry LE 4 k: K; m7 r+ `, l	• 1993 Toyota T-100 One-Ton2 B9 D. V- }3 v4 f$ E
• 2005 Toyota Corolla LE6 c% D! ` V5 Y/ S2 f+ _4 w$ Q	• 1993 Toyota 4Runner SR5' V6 A0 R5 W! s# ]3 D5 L& N% G
• 2005 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited" `1 b7 X8 c/ ~+ x	• 1993 Toyota Pickup DLX" q7 r* n& m$ a% m, d( d1 @
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia SR5 q. \" ~2 p+ x4 h. r	• 1993 Toyota Camry DX : c0 g7 O1 J) n- H$ }( y6 ]
• 2004 Toyota Camry SE " Q! N5 d& `# _4 \2 o* Y	• 1993 Toyota Corolla DX B; T- d2 @( r ^! u1 v8 C* H+ m
• 2004 Toyota Sienna LE, @# w \|. Z+ I5 n	• 1993 Toyota Land Cruiser ) S- \|- }: N$ j3 J* p- i) h. l
• 2004 Toyota Corolla LE3 F- s/ y, j" \|4 K( X	• 1993 Toyota T-100 1 R% r% H6 N( s; v
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE" i o0 R# a+ j. k. {) i2 r	• 1993 Toyota Camry XLE# f+ L1 n. G: Q& ]( j3 U
• 2004 Toyota Highlander Limited " c, k. D# Q+ d) E6 H. \|0 M	• 1993 Toyota Pickup t' P4 C" q- r( b- k
• 2004 Toyota Prius 8 }# ]9 `4 V2 I	• 1993 Toyota Camry LE 6 s5 o9 @& I Y0 `
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma 3 b- s7 W2 q6 V& U- j! z+ v1 k	• 1993 Toyota Corolla LE 3 h- u2 }4 ~$ p* K& l
• 2004 Toyota Tundra 3 N. A* x+ k* E) r- M	• 1993 Toyota T-100 SR59 m% F" Z# f8 N* T
• 2004 Toyota Corolla CE 8 \|! Z8 t; ^3 ]' g; t9 ^	• 1993 Toyota Pickup SR5/ y+ `: @9 h. ]
• 2004 Toyota Sequoia Limited % \|/ o. W% u5 }8 i" E+ a	• 1992 Toyota Camry SE4 e$ a& Z( U) ?9 E$ u
• 2004 Toyota Tundra Limited' p' V( v$ K0 y7 D! N! K+ w	• 1992 Toyota Corolla LE / k: i6 p3 X0 g$ @7 W, v
• 2004 Toyota Camry XLE ! P5 j" x# e- ~& j4 d8 ]4 ]	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 4 @$ x, ] `: D- V# i1 r$ M+ L
• 2004 Toyota Sienna CE & E+ k$ P S5 c6 _3 g+ o	• 1992 Toyota Camry LE p0 o( X2 R. k1 s1 \1 @
• 2004 Toyota Camry LE 0 L+ [4 ]7 _: u& z0 K) L	• 1992 Toyota Corolla SR5 All-Trac : C1 [6 \|3 {( z4 }# j
• 2004 Toyota Sienna XLE Limited " O: i& d5 p. g* ~: R" n+ i g	• 1992 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton / G8 b& g* g7 r+ l H) J b; [3 Q
• 2004 Toyota Highlander 1 C. s/ T: Z) E8 R( w2 F! N	• 1992 Toyota Camry XLE7 Z" o' ]. O" V4 q* Q$ O: r, s
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner. w+ p3 Q! k7 x	• 1992 Toyota Corolla 6 R+ x: a) B! }( `: c% w
• 2004 Toyota Corolla S 7 c" ^6 h8 C9 B3 p, U: ^4 Q- _9 }	• 1992 Toyota MR2 1 U5 o# P$ P: f p
• 2004 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ; a/ @9 O5 v9 f% V8 n& k( S# X	• 1992 Toyota Pickup 1 I3 Z( B o* P% n
• 2004 Toyota Tundra SR5 2 z. ]1 {, V2 {: N+ b% o8 E& G: D	• 1992 Toyota Camry DLX # A4 g9 \|% ]0 F2 I4 G3 f
• 2003 Toyota Celica GTS1 V! x0 A* Z" m% g0 p. G	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX All-Trac% \1 `4 q1 [2 E* `
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner" p. n$ t. b1 h. w	• 1992 Toyota Pickup SR5, r- W! ~2 W, K5 r$ N* `
• 2003 Toyota Corolla S 5 q: t% c) u. p* M* R. A) w	• 1992 Toyota Corolla DLX8 x: n2 T( h$ }6 i+ v b7 C
• 2003 Toyota Highlander Limited3 O8 t/ A; R0 S! m/ Q2 \| Q	• 1992 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 U6 J; ?/ Y7 f4 U* ~
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ) l& ]( F" r" n+ D8 \	• 1992 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 c& O$ v& ^& [2 C; j) P& P9 Y
• 2003 Toyota Tundra SR57 Q# o: i: p6 x5 V6 ?9 g	• 1992 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof% W. x- q6 }- _6 h
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia Limited- Y3 L k+ u+ J9 y	• 1991 Toyota Previa LE/ x4 w0 C$ D9 o7 _& r, \|
• 2003 Toyota Camry SE ) H2 R D' B% B8 W; i	• 1991 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 H" {' V! L) e- D2 }0 T( {# [
• 2003 Toyota Celica GT9 h. Q' O' t% F) O3 E	• 1991 Toyota Camry 0 _% I" v0 x/ o% Z5 A
• 2003 Toyota Corolla LE 4 F0 L: t) T1 i6 [/ L	• 1991 Toyota Land Cruiser _; o* Z2 X- \|: C2 t3 J4 N3 D; m
• 2003 Toyota Highlander 2 i( G8 O: [. a8 R& b" K	• 1991 Toyota Pickup ) Y( N0 I! D V5 K" o; ]
• 2003 Toyota Tacoma ! i- n7 \# ^4 _/ ?7 L/ e1 _	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX1 `5 Z" v: c+ E/ x& h( l' B
• 2003 Toyota Tundra ! N$ L' Z; ]5 N" w0 X3 s5 X	• 1991 Toyota MR2 ) a# I- I, T% b7 A; S Z
• 2003 Toyota Corolla CE 1 p) N/ f9 Z' s0 V	• 1991 Toyota Pickup SR5* y( O* Q" i/ @0 u% L6 i
• 2003 Toyota Tundra Limited$ G; k. t" U) Y* c Z7 H	• 1991 Toyota Previa DLX) e1 r/ ?0 M& [9 H5 l
• 2003 Toyota Camry XLE* H' C9 B( T( Z! u( D' J0 B* l	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac5 k4 `* T* R' q# U9 {
• 2003 Toyota Sequoia SR5 8 r4 }& z; s# {$ c% C	• 1991 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 0 t8 } V9 b& [" q% o& I% p
• 2003 Toyota Camry LE . z' a l0 M+ F: d	• 1991 Toyota MR2 T-Bar Roof ' c9 G8 O5 j( B5 S* d& c1 ^+ d4 `
• 2002 Toyota Corolla CE : h* B/ ~' X) D5 e, o	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 4 i9 i0 ~2 l, m& O5 ~' m
• 2002 Toyota Highlander Limited , V( y2 J" e0 ?% O2 \+ }	• 1991 Toyota Camry LE * w' d8 N9 s0 o5 W: _: o1 k- L8 t
• 2002 Toyota Tundra Limited! X3 @* Z) @ d7 c7 b% G: j( h	• 1991 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton + j8 \; Q5 ^ v) a# }! l
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner Limited 1 `# `- w3 H4 r	• 1990 Toyota Pickup ; q9 a# H9 W5 R
• 2002 Toyota ECHO / U9 Z @$ o0 o3 O! A+ G: Y	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE' r) z( y4 {$ H0 F4 h* e
• 2002 Toyota Camry XLE 9 n9 V# G( b* Y$ }! n0 s9 M	• 1990 Toyota Pickup SR52 @, k p/ C- q/ B% n6 K" d9 n: @
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia Limited 8 D- S- m: C+ N$ e	• 1990 Toyota Tercel EZ& n' n' S1 V! ?( w/ W" n, N
• 2002 Toyota Camry LE - v- Q$ ]1 r8 R4 ?* [& E$ \	• 1990 Toyota Celica GT. ?' ` l5 q2 O2 Q T2 W3 o5 u7 J$ v
• 2002 Toyota Celica GT + {, p0 ^1 L4 I	• 1990 Toyota Tercel Base8 n$ h/ p! Y' G* K! f; S
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner2 I% }) \! n) F% N! f* B	• 1990 Toyota Camry ' T3 L9 I7 l9 O2 a+ v* q- y6 U
• 2002 Toyota Corolla S* V2 y% Y6 M+ e8 E	• 1990 Toyota Celica ST0 w. O! \| R Q5 _* v! J( f
• 2002 Toyota Highlander ' r# \|/ @8 d2 T% Z( I	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX* r% b$ L$ t+ P( F, W4 o4 K5 \" W
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 3 f: @7 m4 b" k1 a8 C	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX + U; X) [" S8 V% f% ]7 }
• 2002 Toyota Tundra SR5, r+ _: t$ Y2 Q/ x. D9 ]- o	• 1990 Toyota 4Runner SR5& q: K" `* W' \: t
• 2002 Toyota 4Runner SR5 ( X; c. Q, O, S) ^	• 1990 Toyota Celica GTS , Z; w7 ^. n( x7 f9 L9 e8 t
• 2002 Toyota Camry SE 7 v) x5 U) Y) ]4 N9 _8 \* h3 J3 l	• 1990 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 N7 R" h. V) s2 l3 K% t/ T# A( ]
• 2002 Toyota Prius 8 b2 S* }4 \|! A* N4 p2 S2 d: g	• 1990 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton $ g* h/ V, a* Z2 t% c& _
• 2002 Toyota Sequoia SR51 L: X3 e/ B, b W% [9 G; M1 I( d0 s	• 1990 Toyota Tercel DLX6 r) U6 u) L2 B+ h" y! s8 `) ~! X2 i
• 2002 Toyota Celica GTS ' L# Y' \5 B" [/ O$ ~3 f3 o	• 1990 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac , h4 v6 x2 Y# M/ p7 X# O
• 2002 Toyota Corolla LE 7 Z4 A. Z% [- o- K. j) G9 l% e; b& S, l	• 1990 Toyota Celica All Trac 2 d& o/ a, Q3 M& J6 A4 F) I2 g
• 2002 Toyota Tacoma * n" }" R1 X4 u7 z# Y	• 1990 Toyota Tercel 4 }* o+ p: Y3 p) D- D; k* m8 c
• 2002 Toyota Tundra % m1 `1 ^4 v( P9 ]	• 1990 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac 1 ~$ Y# I. ^0 x0 x; ^/ r
• 2001 Toyota Camry LE 7 T m. s& o0 \$ ?2 a7 @	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac ' q3 z5 ]$ p* @% d
• 2001 Toyota Sienna LE& j: @8 b# ?4 Z" I: b0 K2 e	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger/ B$ o+ {* v+ K( b3 `
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XL q2 v/ Q3 ]6 C4 h8 {" L" o6 Z7 n	• 1989 Toyota Tercel Base" x+ ?1 v+ ]6 [; ]
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia Limited 2 z& I& B7 c2 \|	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac , J: m U, E& {
• 2001 Toyota Celica GT ! e" S! _5 C- b. x	• 1989 Toyota Land Cruiser 8 I7 Y. M4 P9 k* T+ P9 Z0 p9 D
• 2001 Toyota Corolla LE 1 A7 j* E+ h% \|8 s/ u	• 1989 Toyota Camry LE 0 `# E" \|3 y' j, F9 O9 _9 j, g8 F- X
• 2001 Toyota Prius + r+ d1 i. \|+ Q R! _6 T5 @6 a& S	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX0 f! _( z/ m: \|, @* [' [; n, c$ [
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma 7 M( ?7 H6 w/ [ Y2 I ]- }	• 1989 Toyota Pickup DLX 1 Ton1 ^; a6 p0 ~' ]) h, F2 ~( m
• 2001 Toyota Tundra ! d0 t# q# t* y3 j' m+ K	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger ' ? P2 e/ L9 g; y; g# i9 Z
• 2001 Toyota Corolla CE! L6 h0 B* A3 Q2 \|* Y$ Y3 D	• 1989 Toyota Tercel DLX $ C! L* m$ p' O2 g6 ~9 \|
• 2001 Toyota Tundra Limited / R6 W& D; A- _, x	• 1989 Toyota Camry - H- @8 L" B/ e; {2 N
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner SR55 D9 D# C- m9 ^0 N ~* E	• 1989 Toyota Tercel % l9 @* Z+ g2 c7 w5 n0 l: v7 s
• 2001 Toyota Camry XLE 6 _7 i h- e4 S+ a& u	• 1989 Toyota Camry DLX3 r1 Y [2 m) r7 O% _# ~* M; Y
• 2001 Toyota Sienna XLE9 e. t" K; h( L# P" n& h	• 1989 Toyota Pickup 9 G2 k5 W" g% K* B6 ]5 h: P1 h
• 2001 Toyota ECHO 4 `1 x* R5 L% o2 u8 o1 B* A7 [	• 1989 Toyota Pickup SR5 ; T6 ~7 ?' ?" _+ z
• 2001 Toyota Avalon XLS ) ~* z, B+ r7 i4 e3 L7 M+ U	• 1989 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 0 @2 K: R* P' o/ J. a2 n
• 2001 Toyota Camry CE $ \|" ]' g+ q' ^	• 1989 Toyota Tercel EZ ( V# r$ O' o( Y- s& i9 ], s
• 2001 Toyota Sequoia SR5& j0 a4 k* I6 I' B0 e4 Z* g- o/ w/ G	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Panel# \|: Z8 K" \) M3 A
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma S-Runner/ C' F# e3 e9 Z; @7 z) \|	• 1988 Toyota Pickup DLX x. w/ Q8 `8 s9 X4 @3 \|% A5 A) l
• 2001 Toyota Celica GTS, E2 ^/ q" ?$ q: m' `. C. A	• 1988 Toyota Tercel EZ ' N+ \|' m' h* _6 W
• 2001 Toyota Corolla S ! g: s1 I/ u$ Y* {) \|	• 1988 Toyota Camry - z! e' e- Q* x# N: A# ~ b
• 2001 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner# f0 O' Y! M6 d+ W3 y( s/ h	• 1988 Toyota Pickup / c2 x. U' \- B9 N4 n$ J
• 2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 # @. u. \4 K' E& o2 E$ L, i K	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 2-Passenger 3 f# n9 p' A I7 W3 S3 I/ q
• 2001 Toyota Sienna CE q% I6 M' U( i" x, u2 p+ z( {	• 1988 Toyota Tercel DLX 8 j+ a% f0 a4 v8 p$ t
• 2001 Toyota Highlander " ?- _! U4 l+ w: ~0 E	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX All-Trac. a- O5 ?9 _! }0 g# ~& C
• 2001 Toyota 4Runner Limited# E/ H! \0 d& F& [7 n8 z, s+ A	• 1988 Toyota Van DX 6 V9 Z9 ` J' a' F& R3 B+ i2 \( y
• 2000 Toyota ECHO % H4 \! u; g! K" v4 ~	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 2-Passenger" \|# Z% H8 e# F+ T; \
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma " Y0 m, M4 u3 v# Z- a. g/ [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel ! I g2 D u0 \* v) B, e$ J5 h
• 2000 Toyota Celica GT, k: z6 ~* g& \, f; `% Y	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE * H6 \|0 q2 h' g* t q
• 2000 Toyota Corolla VE 9 q8 F' V: D4 T N# j	• 1988 Toyota Van Side-Window 2 P: c+ ^' _0 W& {$ c# N2 A
• 2000 Toyota RAV4 9 b: z) C$ P2 w4 x- O7 s$ Q( p	• 1988 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton5 ]" Y: z- i( Z+ }1 F2 u
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner 9 ?( y+ m2 e w+ q	• 1988 Toyota Land Cruiser 3 u5 T9 ` C' g; F- S- ^
• 2000 Toyota Tundra SR5 4 }" L! m/ n3 U	• 1988 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 z5 n" v5 Y5 o5 l+ i
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner Limited ( `! b1 j/ O4 u5 D0 X	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner SR5 5-Passenger 5 m9 R: t5 B9 R/ J% V8 C+ D
• 2000 Toyota Camry LE$ j8 b' G8 ?5 X$ ?, f2 n5 j5 [	• 1988 Toyota Tercel B7 {5 ]3 j# W- C/ U9 T" f
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XLS + s; ^+ u/ \. z+ E	• 1988 Toyota Camry LE All-Trac 3 k$ }# C$ y4 x0 F- J
• 2000 Toyota Corolla LE1 O/ v S0 c# V2 w8 n* @# E	• 1988 Toyota 4Runner DLX 5-Passenger$ N6 L; `# o! Q0 e3 h% C/ S. @: k% X/ {; o
• 2000 Toyota Camry Solara $ s* x9 \: E$ r( e2 `	• 1988 Toyota Tercel SR5 " @) f3 W( j% I4 {0 P% s1 [! k2 q
• 2000 Toyota Tacoma Limited ( C3 ~9 [8 F4 B	• 1988 Toyota Camry DLX % d) Y/ V. v b5 \|0 H! k
• 2000 Toyota Tundra & d' \: \|5 j+ o* i# B1 C+ v	• 1988 Toyota Van LE % \|# a$ U0 P! w. U% V# \|$ [2 r
• 2000 Toyota Celica GTS) a, V$ l6 B$ d$ e- G$ q0 F	• 1987 Toyota Land Cruiser / f. T' `! u7 g' E% ?, Y
• 2000 Toyota Corolla CE ; G3 o5 _6 }& [* u& Q$ b	• 1987 Toyota Tercel SR5 C+ z6 m9 w6 i3 f) i
• 2000 Toyota Tundra Limited 1 v& m" z4 _5 N2 F+ z/ D	• 1987 Toyota Camry LE s: ]/ E! Q) r3 v4 X- K2 \2 O
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner ' G2 d& X( e2 O2 h	• 1987 Toyota Van DX! D: ^( k9 n- m0 j' ^
• 2000 Toyota Camry XLE Y8 E( L3 m! ^1 O# R	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Window/ P" j# a \$ e, ?6 o" K
• 2000 Toyota 4Runner SR5) y b" X& m1 E: y6 \3 a* c( F4 q	• 1987 Toyota Pickup 1 Ton1 C4 B- E+ p. z6 D" w; {
• 2000 Toyota Camry CE& O) d- B9 `: s( P	• 1987 Toyota Pickup SR5 4 q4 B1 @9 [( k
• 2000 Toyota Avalon XL 8 O0 v1 j2 O) k' E: W2 R* J3 s	• 1987 Toyota Tercel DLX- w* O$ _- {1 P( U
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner - ?6 L, C) `5 x- L# v6 ^1 V* j% Y7 n3 k8 i	• 1987 Toyota Tercel 3 P. o d, Y* h- N
• 1999 Toyota Camry XLE1 S/ O# o) l P$ D4 m	• 1987 Toyota Camry DLX 6 _: V: Q, H" n, _6 V
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner SR5 & ^1 F3 z% r% l8 s	• 1987 Toyota Van LE: L: W W4 j3 H2 X
• 1999 Toyota Camry CE& P( A( H- o8 t	• 1987 Toyota Van Side-Panel% {/ E( U8 C8 L* F9 {" ~+ p
• 1999 Toyota Sienna CE * o3 N. N/ i$ I) ]8 `	• 1987 Toyota Pickup DLX ( `( T2 p# ?, N; e6 G4 Q
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma # e5 A; _3 [; d0 n! x2 x	• 1987 Toyota Pickup / G# ~' Y- {. R2 J- M" k
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XLS8 }# H& Q$ T2 c9 h; z7 O	• 1986 Toyota Van LE 5 j* B6 n* h5 K. {3 b5 k
• 1999 Toyota Corolla VE , p' ~5 @$ [8 Z4 Z- o1 z1 @$ n	• 1986 Toyota Land Cruiser ( R% A) V# i( r% \ Y
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner$ `+ p8 s# D' d' R	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Panel/ s+ L2 N8 \|6 V5 k, Q
• 1999 Toyota RAV4 9 a4 h- w: u& X5 y6 B	• 1986 Toyota Van DX. d% k! @- ?! G# T/ y# t' D
• 1999 Toyota 4Runner Limited. T5 f) p4 y. Q) D1 E5 _$ w9 l" h	• 1986 Toyota Van Side-Window 4 X4 \|( w( o. l1 v) W6 e( K' L6 ?
• 1999 Toyota Camry LE 5 O: V d4 N. S7 v$ c	• 1985 Toyota Van " w' n: t- n! w7 e
• 1999 Toyota Sienna LE6 U a. ?, ~3 W7 ] E: A	• 1985 Toyota Van LE 6 x& M# ?) i5 N- U
• 1999 Toyota Avalon XL7 c. z) D" i" V* [" H. L" n" r	• 1985 Toyota Van DX . L* X; f' E4 u% y( s8 Y& } i
• 1999 Toyota Corolla LE : r/ a% X: Y, t	• 1985 Toyota Land Cruiser 5 \|! N% F3 [) C) R2 o' }
• 1999 Toyota Tacoma Limited 7 F# d4 s- H6 i9 {! o8 @9 q	• 1984 Toyota Van DX . Y; H. q- C: ^3 ^( i
• 1999 Toyota Corolla CE( c8 M! T! N3 H) _& r$ Z	• 1984 Toyota Supra 2 h& g- j E3 g% V0 F( q$ ?
• 1998 Toyota Corolla LE : T$ R! ^5 q; H$ [( L	• 1984 Toyota Corolla DLX 7 B( c3 ~9 I% A" W, K3 v
• 1998 Toyota Sienna CE5 ?0 a6 `; t" }2 L	• 1984 Toyota Land Cruiser 9 Y; o5 W: e4 \8 v$ X7 s; p7 [2 v
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Limited ' k5 I0 v. z0 G	• 1984 Toyota Cressida + d L2 S$ M" V. D8 G* s3 s1 G
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XLS7 R; ^" s) g* o) P7 a0 h9 r	• 1984 Toyota Van 6 C3 X* K N. D
• 1998 Toyota Corolla CE6 q- G! A8 S$ t	• 1984 Toyota Camry LE; x4 l# H1 ?2 S# k' n" k
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner 1 W4 h% M K: B8 q# k' J	• 1984 Toyota Van LE ! @" ~, G+ \% }& G q( B+ M
• 1998 Toyota Camry XLE# Q2 E0 [# }, [! {/ K9 K H7 L; `	• 1984 Toyota Corolla LE 1 K1 L+ I( q* H7 N; r
• 1998 Toyota T-100 DX; X" [7 o( @; l0 g2 _* [! S; P: N	• 1984 Toyota Corolla SR54 g. k& R- a/ H0 O, \& F4 Q
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner SR5 6 a( S* g' a; R+ Q6 ]6 ~% M	• 1984 Toyota Camry DLX8 t l- B6 p A7 r6 g! O. r; D
• 1998 Toyota Camry CE 3 p3 X# m$ r# ` j	• 1983 Toyota Camry LE3 R! q0 v2 }- y
• 1998 Toyota Sienna LE3 e$ n4 N. O$ {$ Z i9 _ k& v a0 Y	• 1983 Toyota Supra 0 O" w7 ^9 H' [) h$ C; B
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma + M; c. Y$ z7 W I9 V4 h6 m$ V	• 1983 Toyota Land Cruiser 0 Y! l8 J9 s; q, z3 S
• 1998 Toyota Avalon XL ' N, P; Q6 R5 g6 w: a2 S% H, d+ K: Z	• 1983 Toyota Camry DLX$ F# U2 o" X6 p }: n
• 1998 Toyota Corolla VE2 \| G! p ^2 p# \| w. K" F; W$ \	• 1983 Toyota Cressida . B/ i' ~- u, i H% z: Z
• 1998 Toyota Tacoma Prerunner ! P0 T) S! c. V1 V5 \|. C	• 1982 Toyota Celica GT+ g- \|3 K- _+ Z1 Y7 @. h
• 1998 Toyota T-100 ( l7 ?) V) \- Q6 ^* N	• 1982 Toyota Land Cruiser - x7 G2 S4 a6 k* j3 E
• 1998 Toyota 4Runner Limited/ p- M! b1 U2 u0 b2 o$ }	• 1982 Toyota Cressida 2 ?7 T8 h9 Z4 }" n
• 1998 Toyota Camry LE' r5 R/ K$ y1 @9 W( P" d0 r- ?	• 1982 Toyota Tercel DLX " G# x+ V2 a7 J, c7 `
• 1998 Toyota RAV4 & s6 r5 ~! ]4 I	• 1982 Toyota Celica ST1 P4 b$ Q+ `( f+ q% p7 t0 _3 k
• 1998 Toyota T-100 SR5 ! x% z! U, ~+ o2 ]+ l# r# {( A8 P	• 1982 Toyota Tercel 1 G; D3 c* o! v( P& \
• 1997 Toyota Corolla DX& z- L) m# X3 E8 E. Q; u0 g4 i	• 1982 Toyota Tercel SR5- X, \( T/ g; I3 k: b! E
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma ' L4 ]; T2 o" `% f	• 1981 Toyota Tercel & W. r( m6 I' ~+ ?
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XLS S; X7 [. h3 j! a/ k	• 1981 Toyota Tercel SR5 - T" d2 b+ v' T! m" w" C
• 1997 Toyota Previa DX2 M0 A% f2 `4 H, f3 j	• 1981 Toyota Land Cruiser " h z, n }. y8 ^' B
• 1997 Toyota T-100 , ^5 O, d0 `! d2 X3 R$ V. I	• 1981 Toyota Tercel DLX ( Q _* Z) p/ c3 G9 M
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner Limited# e8 o- M! p w- q/ C( }	• 1981 Toyota Cressida 6 k1 P8 Y# }+ r
• 1997 Toyota Camry LE, R$ ?) v2 c$ U% r) z- B2 ^$ j( Y	• 1980 Toyota Celica GT 7 D8 l# E% w4 ~/ M0 y0 b* E
• 1997 Toyota T-100 SR5 ) [ l8 \|; g& {: y- w) F- T	• 1980 Toyota Corolla 6 E5 k. n6 v1 d1 W5 F
• 1997 Toyota Corolla + }% i* {& h! x% \|	• 1980 Toyota Land Cruiser ! {2 k4 @- p. b8 C0 p9 R6 `$ l
• 1997 Toyota Tacoma SR5 7 ?" M: _5 T& X0 Y	• 1980 Toyota Corolla Deluxe' I" p& W8 `, a' l) @8 N
• 1997 Toyota Avalon XL- B# p) A/ [1 `/ U	• 1980 Toyota Tercel DLX + f/ p8 C \|7 N
• 1997 Toyota Corolla CE $ S' z! _3 o! `8 `7 ~/ F	• 1980 Toyota Celica ST4 i# \|0 F3 A7 o% Z9 y+ Y6 ^
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner & f( z. g; F# T: D& Y) _	• 1980 Toyota Corona Luxury 3 w6 v' v; w. y! ?
• 1997 Toyota Camry XLE7 s9 L! h- I2 o: B9 T8 t) E7 \	• 1980 Toyota Tercel 0 B O7 I! x" p( e2 e7 M
• 1997 Toyota Previa LE) P# Y. U% L) y2 u5 H3 ~3 X	• 1980 Toyota Corolla SR5 8 J4 [, y/ o5 _' W% g8 P8 @
• 1997 Toyota T-100 DX4 l, {$ L: A/ w# Z, p& @/ A+ \|4 A	• 1980 Toyota Corona Deluxe 2 c1 N3 u: W7 Y
• 1997 Toyota Tercel CE0 ] `' m0 \|! x5 j, A, V( Z4 F; e- A& P	• 1980 Toyota Tercel SR5 * v( Q8 Q7 H, ]$ H3 ~4 N
• 1997 Toyota 4Runner SR5 7 C; D, T5 M0 S$ R5 C

yuanyuan · 发表于 2007-7-20 21:13

原帖由老杨于 2007-7-19 20:27 发表 0 g* l. V2 a. [4 [

: N6 m3 j) Y* J7 m& D: H, k+ A如果用recall去衡量车的话，下面这个牌子的recall更多：
3 a1 l9 y8 t% F2 o. f3 JToyota Recalls by Model• 2007 Toyota Camry Solara SLE" W5 s; Y" Q9 N* M m" E6 T* Y
• 1997 Toyota Camry CE
9 O8 T3 ]9 N6 ^2 A&#822 ...

佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。

由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：

1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
2）同一品牌、型号，不同年代的不一样；
3）如果有recall细节的话，甚至可以看出同一品牌、型号、年代，不同产地的不一样。

补充一句，请大家也不要迷信单一参数，如Recall数量。汽车不仅仅是四个轮子，也不仅仅是技术参数，更没有十全十美的车。

最重要的是明白自己的期望值，多比比，多看看，后悔的机会就少很多。

当然，咨询老杨这样有知识，有经验的好同志，是非常必要的。

作为小小群众，我相信杨冒号会排除品牌偏见，推荐给您一款最适合您的爱车。

嘉士伯 · 发表于 2007-7-23 10:13

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-19 19:33 发表
& j* ^% n' [# s! n# |0 K7 [' AApril 12, 2007, the New York Times reported that Ford is recalling more than 500,000 Escape sport-utility vehicles after 50 reports of engine fires caused by corroded brakes.

Thanks for the information!

老杨 · 发表于 2007-7-23 13:15

原帖由 yuanyuan 于 2007-7-20 22:13 发表
& _# Y1 a, o: x0 ]& I' k" M/ `
# T! \* a8 V/ e/ v) M# k2 {% P6 y2 C+ |' o, E
佩服佩服，感谢老杨同志把某品牌从1980年到2007的若干型号的recall全部列举出来。老杨同志辛苦了。
4 h* f3 H$ K' C% R
: x: ?5 V# N2 u" Z9 q由此可见，迷信某一品牌是要不得的。因为大家可以看到：
# J c4 A: V1 ~+ b1 M8 m$ X- N& G
1）同一品牌，不同型号的不一样；
0 J" ]* w! R# e" v( ^# P2）同 ...

让您见笑了，我不过是从您提供的网址里面copy过来一些而已。

meilin · 发表于 2007-8-31 05:46

实用的好帖
所谓“越辨越明”啊。

楼主。

老杨。

松杉 · 发表于 2007-8-31 20:34

这个问题还用争论吗？看看销量排行不就全明白了嘛！

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