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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞8 e& b5 R: i7 z' z' J9 G
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane  d, C" o! s$ Q9 h, U7 m
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"% z) ~/ Q3 ~# @( a$ j: ]
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
# N9 ?0 V3 V9 m3 @葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:
* G$ v6 }1 k1 Z. C  ~' G上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
4 W8 x5 ~5 U, Q  n她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:0 X5 i9 a. f* W  ]. u' B' B' ]( e

2 |. D, D2 g1 j$ _Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
8 h- g! c$ \7 z$ _7 rShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,
! J# g3 \  A) B$ D3 I+ w! Ibut for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
  N+ k' X& j2 G7 u1 o9 X  cto get out of our government and to get out of our lives., ]/ @" _- }% a3 E
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
, _  ]2 ^6 b7 ?8 h* gHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection. `$ V+ \  g8 c  x8 w3 y
if we demand He leave us alone?"# K# X3 N" t* j+ ~) P1 m
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
. O* J! P: e" Q9 t只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校," g6 \. w9 ]. ]$ [& o
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
0 ^: A5 |% A+ ?: a上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。$ H6 y2 b/ b8 o
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
8 P1 p+ F' V4 c) Q/ f又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』4 n6 \4 u) I2 \8 G5 o, r2 ]
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
" a% [( [# Y- CI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
7 M; i2 k+ V5 z9 ]2 F1 s. q( Cher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our3 L0 J& M; P$ \$ I; C
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
) [2 _3 h9 A3 d2 ^9 e, c3 Rschool...4 V# x8 o" {5 e9 [4 d
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
1 k+ b/ {9 _& y5 e5 P% _8 g2 M) iand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.5 L( f3 W; P. j  \7 K, X2 J
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,5 L2 M7 @- f$ t% W7 f0 C5 ^  b
我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士8 g' w; ?" q( R8 o& E' V+ A
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
, @2 T2 }; {; w! M; ?最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
# Z6 v9 [' S# a, Y: B# }5 h7 I, F要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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  Q/ }" M5 e, O; L" D# `& GThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
, q. @5 E& B7 {8 b2 Z8 L3 `. gwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped$ C: e" T0 ~& L2 H
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed* v7 ^6 p1 y* c
suicide)
5 S" D% R: q# h$ ~& sWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.( Z/ b0 k, `5 }& J8 g1 c0 ^. S
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
0 M, K: y/ }! i+ D. m; U* B我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
- w5 p, H5 h9 t0 O以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊5 z8 `- U! [7 e0 l  r
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。! c9 j3 O5 @3 C' J+ `, r  X

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+ g0 X: P/ I8 E. a7 z" aThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our+ x& O8 s5 B* a. }5 T
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member* F0 S# x+ j- E# e3 v4 I
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave! V# e3 q( r4 p+ c
because we don 't want any bad publicity," U4 U/ B* E# W+ i' f
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
1 v& y% u  I$ i: g4 c3 z, wbetween disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,- z9 x% V2 D+ U7 o7 Y4 t9 ?  c
etc.). And we said OK.
2 h" N+ f1 ]) i" t. F然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,7 K. e% ]# E& v  j
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
5 Q) M/ P3 \( t7 Z; \& y5 S教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,3 H& ?! P  \4 m8 s# a
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),5 h. G3 t$ {3 ^5 W3 K! o) p% O; {
而大家同意了。
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,& h) K: t! X) z' t3 U
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
9 C6 f  m8 t& u$ x; G' m% OThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys4 T: e+ O" Z% b. y4 h
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms; y0 x! c% j1 y+ `
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
0 q$ U% u- @( N& h# v3 Q& gand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we3 b6 Z" H' U. M+ m6 l* h. V  ?
said OK.4 N5 |2 G. H) s- v9 L. h% P
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
. c4 O- Q& U+ D' ~甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
( L9 K4 @% P$ O0 |( w4 W2 u然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,! m& m  r8 A% w* ]! z
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
( [$ K. C) Z) r) X% h! S好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道: Y7 a  f2 [. j- V$ H
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter/ s3 B5 l- a& d5 e/ T& Y: u
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
$ E4 ?! W+ x  Z8 Rwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,7 V& U  g$ h6 i7 P  H1 K3 M+ ]) T
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
! k$ G8 t- @4 T然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
9 v* c1 d2 F8 f$ f5 n6 l/ G只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
+ F5 T) r$ Y7 a8 ?任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >( V$ C) A# C4 _" R# H7 i
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。+ N' s: }; l8 t

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, i& @; I) O+ c& ]Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
6 R0 q' O3 f$ S  V& w$ ~4 X7 Nand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty  q$ f, g: _$ d" R: k
of the female body. And we said OK.
7 G. Q" ~; Q9 o- ~; M+ k然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
$ U" g9 r# W( g: _# m; {# K稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and9 U7 i/ U' ]( N
published pictures of nude children and then further again
8 P2 q9 ?" s- L& W2 y* z2 ]by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
3 F4 m2 i2 C0 t- w& |/ dthey're entitled to free speech.
( M; V: g* W( m, Y5 n  B然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
7 Z2 M" L! e/ r: Z甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
7 e( C, B* P8 m6 _( N他們這樣做是言論自由。
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' e# J. V1 _* i: rThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies% G$ E" l- Z& d
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
/ ?$ j2 S) e, A- Y& wthat encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
% c1 J( M8 k9 PAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,2 u  y; \) ?2 W; j% C6 m/ r4 R9 E- t4 N
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.. x3 ^, d9 R# E: v
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
( t. s) }) G: T, ~/ s4 B% g不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
; q( l1 M2 a1 T( {! [4 t0 ~7 y謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
8 m. a: N( X; ^" R4 V那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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9 Z! l) B, ?4 U# r+ a' ZNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
' @/ [5 S8 c# \why they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
  a, p+ {. {3 v3 b4 ]' cto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
% c4 u! O  M1 N. ^5 cif we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
' t  f- H9 i$ X* ?6 B' \. \& E! QI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
1 x8 |; g& Z" _( y1 f( k3 \' E8 Y如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?. Z# a' H( X# Q) {
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?$ M1 Y0 q$ C" p" m7 s
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
0 `$ F* M0 H  n: b2 L  L3 g假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。( q3 G# h1 j8 o8 T
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。' s" E: G- Z5 t  f  J$ b% r

- i" C% y* j. u. r3 K9 LFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
( d3 s1 |0 x. L- T# ~) Owhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers" l2 |8 e0 a+ z1 [& F  `* s
say, but question what the Bible says.& ]2 c2 X" o$ E: _7 q) w
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。" l' W( {. g5 o0 i/ E+ Y* S
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。. D% V+ L) I) N5 t
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like' q& L* A* c0 a3 s9 P
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
/ e( D" D- {+ b) W1 [people think twice about sharing.! ]8 e! q/ @, U! C; f- ^  Z5 y
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;/ `. l- N# _# T2 L" y5 |: J6 H3 l
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,% Q& A* A) T2 \2 F% f1 J
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。( H0 L) c) |. c7 d: n  M" R
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6 A3 d! c' h) w, L# s& @# p" wFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely+ ]- x0 S: K1 {* h
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
+ a* [0 N3 b6 T" y; ~8 |" Fin the school and workplace.* I4 R& X* u; @- q# I1 |
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
6 w: }" k# T- o2 R透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;- t4 R3 G# e( N+ Y5 J& _$ w5 r
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。" e% c  w8 c* `" A7 b2 l& v: }, m
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Are you laughing?
+ I/ [2 M1 X  t+ @你笑了嗎?. e8 B, j2 n' k) s
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Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
. M3 o7 U+ g5 j/ b+ \& Fto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,! \$ }6 v+ Q3 A9 v+ |- z
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.9 n6 L* O2 d  _8 n5 M9 ^, y9 m
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us4 t7 I$ T6 ?7 @% e9 G) D7 Q& e
than what God thinks of us.
0 Q1 S; t) i' a; [" Y好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友," ?/ N9 }7 L% \
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
: i( |, J+ b/ d% ~6 l5 n或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
' M3 b* N  Q+ l9 P可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,7 q% [9 D# Q* N* A- o! |( T
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。" [0 D" m) p, {' b/ U( A

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Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...) H( W" V* M/ L+ }8 }
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
6 `- A8 }% N. q: W0 isit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!7 ^# P1 M; |2 Y9 E
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話% f5 P; f! [. F# J# a
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
% x" ]. s+ C7 Q; |. O但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,  ~1 X' Y7 i' A7 O# L; t! s
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.) @* m) v/ ]; C# D, L& N5 O

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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
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发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。7 ]' b1 q% w) ^$ k- _1 w
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
' P; Z# ?8 J- q7 ^2 `3 k& L( y/ u有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
) D1 I; U2 Q! F' @5 P1 a& C这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了& Y8 C$ \6 J1 H# d) E) T

  K) _3 T. r  n, G9 m9 Z3 V所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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) p3 h3 u; h3 O8 H, O: G社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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