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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞  @) L5 n# b/ r2 e7 E
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
" b: E: ~) J/ F* n& ]# P, T3 mClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
# k4 \" U, ^8 ~3 f- r(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
8 G* C1 v2 d* d  p* i葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:# ^. _( r: W& K) r8 Y/ g% {' @! _! Q/ W
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
  h# j' k% b3 C% _, _. f4 ?$ K. h& Y4 c她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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' T% y  X& z) U0 _; a. dAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
# S4 N7 M# W2 _0 j1 U- ^7 Z# ^She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,  D" s, V8 Y. A
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
" a2 L/ L8 j. }# X0 eto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.
! |5 d# T" \6 E( ~$ @; }& UAnd being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.0 A5 c9 w, e% G$ w! K/ u
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection6 l% b  [# r3 a6 p3 S
if we demand He leave us alone?"4 N$ v! {8 e# X( r3 l) C
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
1 T) m2 l( ?# l7 h7 ?只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,+ h& n2 Y$ t/ @4 u$ [' a
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。, r/ k. y. m  G
上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
( |; Y/ \$ W( ^+ W5 [' Z我們既然強令祂遠離我們,
0 [5 ^/ I  Z  [' z1 I7 ^' F又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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  ^8 s- ^- N9 m- |6 ~: [In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
0 r! K: @- c" y* P. w, aI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
& t6 M1 A: j  Cher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our
5 G- K* ^/ z5 p* e  G' f, N$ Tschools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
7 W' C% B, u5 m8 ~, A! j/ _7 sschool...
# Z) ~' ]# U* y7 X9 Mthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
( U7 D5 P4 J% Eand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
  T2 g" o# W  Q: w" w5 F8 g" ]看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
  T; G  x. q! m( i: q# C我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
. y& S6 r6 Q! v; i5 |(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,6 z: m6 V  u& t) j8 p5 l
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
8 B. f( `# ~8 E要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。* u* f  }- w& j' M# G& h

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
0 k8 g% b% L  L& n0 iwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
3 U. r9 E  `( j  n( P4 Y; J8 hand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed8 c* r! ~- X& \6 G
suicide)1 x9 J  M# @' H7 v0 G7 `- R
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
$ U3 Z" f7 P) P然後Benjamin Spock博士說,4 n5 E) n( o/ T
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
0 y' n$ T9 ~  Q2 c, V. N& N4 p0 H以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
& Y& s' v( W( h9 S5 B( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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* H5 E# l) {: D6 a' l7 I/ EThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our3 H/ a+ b& l% z! D
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
" j2 Y7 s$ K. A/ xin this school better touch a student when they misbehave5 s9 |" ?9 F1 F+ F
because we don 't want any bad publicity,0 C$ d  I( B$ \! E* E' b
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference7 l7 M; i; `; n) c' d* {7 n; S
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
! Z5 v# j! _0 K( Jetc.). And we said OK.
/ I& n- Y( z1 f/ T7 c) b然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
9 ~+ c- U% V1 S  W老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
% p5 q, Z3 t2 x( e* v( Q$ `教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
! W5 u9 H! T: Y# H0 E, r( _4 ?更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),0 R! a' I( x. P$ f# h- N
而大家同意了。
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+ C- {' r& C5 x1 AThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,
1 j" d9 l& M& W7 K4 c  p* c& S7 eand they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
% Z" {. w2 Z: G+ p9 SThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
) d  y# d/ r- [0 u% Aand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
6 T/ o4 V& h8 U# k! w! B7 pthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,- I  ?4 p3 w# ^1 b$ B- N
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we" Z- R3 ^+ i! N# B2 J% `& F
said OK.
/ g3 k/ p2 Z8 i& V然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
* \) z  W* y+ c甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
1 \/ q% s) p$ H: U; V- L  E7 _然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,
5 p1 u/ ?% i( {, X: c( c8 _他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,$ ]; W- B9 p: N/ r& C! L+ T& B; A
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道+ N9 X1 O, U  X3 k
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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+ b( Z& L( l! e- w8 n/ ^$ H6 c. DThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
' U4 ~& Q! L8 ^% ?+ {1 [what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,, @$ f, _# F! F1 N9 H
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
8 {( W; y$ _3 M1 b* d; e3 O5 pdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
& Q' w1 x8 N2 i; d然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
9 h+ k  k" E+ n只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
, X2 [2 H8 m$ O! C: n任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >4 S% h' N7 I4 ^; j" B% K5 y5 M- C
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。1 Q2 ~( V- U7 U
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Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
$ `  W; a  E# C  \2 gand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
/ \: ^1 Q: G) }! P; Y+ s3 ~of the female body. And we said OK.1 j" \8 |  |. O$ O& T/ i
然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,) o9 C* n& a3 T& _5 z
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。, D$ [! k: t$ n2 X5 h; ^
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and  ]- c/ Y" k9 M5 c) f
published pictures of nude children and then further again' U. L# T5 k- J- H5 V5 n) `2 G+ n5 r
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
: P; O; k: H5 o/ M, ~+ G% Uthey're entitled to free speech.
: C, l/ ^" X; _' y然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
6 M; k1 C( l5 n0 n. j9 O甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
8 c4 ?( P/ f+ p0 @. M8 o- z他們這樣做是言論自由。( g; y  P" Q9 s& U. q4 K7 l, A2 \

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+ Y! U% S8 Q0 a. V3 @  Y3 YThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
7 G4 r' |! h) k0 i( Mthat promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music: c' h; a' U5 x. H! s6 Y
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.: L. H6 N4 K7 u
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,+ H  ]0 k5 r* Q. r6 W5 c
nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.9 B) W" V3 Y4 K* X& y5 A  I4 K
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
3 C6 b) S% |' P  X不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
4 V% T0 v: \9 R/ Y( o* h謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:: o  v# Y3 \0 B
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。5 w/ ?# H! r" z- W) C. W$ `0 a
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
2 z- w9 ^2 K  g( zwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them6 e4 _0 Q# u% `7 S+ h# B: Y
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,
) z) C1 }; R+ u. [if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
0 H8 S9 Y5 z8 L  ~% J) AI think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
* C+ l6 o# y! P" k如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?7 f' _: M: j. U. }6 }7 H/ e" V- P
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
9 t- e/ C% Y" _; z' g為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?( p9 ^2 K% X5 C$ r1 _$ k- [
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。: n0 r$ M0 E$ ~- D- W
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder" `9 w( b. J6 S+ {
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers% n) D% k- b+ C- k/ _$ c
say, but question what the Bible says.
5 ~2 C5 |! X, N$ S實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。& W8 k7 a: D0 p7 {6 p. i5 N
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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  w; J) G$ W9 V; qFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like0 r3 V7 G7 I% P0 {( h( z
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,- C# `% G+ g* v8 W
people think twice about sharing.* r. k- y8 o( \* N9 m( p( n- N
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
$ w4 D" i8 N/ `% x' t) c* F: v但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
9 w6 T0 b  D; x人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。8 F# Y, n( r/ b5 V9 m
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely1 j8 B& n2 n- o' B- H
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed6 c, @- ?3 ~; S- L2 `# T
in the school and workplace./ B7 \  I' B3 b
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章9 R; ]8 C0 Y+ p8 A9 }
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
) ^0 Y" Z  x; m8 N而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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( o* s# C( u" O/ x) VAre you laughing?
: U: C  h; \) l3 u: m你笑了嗎?
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3 j5 V6 ]1 F1 u, tFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it6 ^- H- y0 a# q/ e4 z1 F
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,  Z, G5 y$ g- g! O  b
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
1 R/ t& s3 c( MFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
) `* S/ x3 z1 q3 @$ `  |than what God thinks of us.4 u1 P9 q' {. k$ c
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
: [( _  z; g8 K- t# U: o因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
8 |! N5 M. p5 H3 B或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。: o/ ?6 c, K8 j/ `% v% ?/ q# [
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,1 k: H# d* F" c) N
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。# X4 J2 }: t$ a. N/ {6 `8 S0 C

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# H: }' p+ O: ~  ?Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
( m# T; f' T$ ]' V, N- ^no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't3 v& }0 y7 t+ n0 b7 r9 ?( ^
sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
; [4 {- i4 ^& I) E! t8 j  d把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話" F: d" E' Y/ o# y. A4 ^
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,$ @3 s6 l/ ~! V1 a  O' x9 Q
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,% @5 J( ?8 P' h. D' {; N% B
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
5 }. r! u, q5 \; Q  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
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有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。* v2 o1 o: I. `3 s# F3 p
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了# Q9 x/ D+ z( T# t

' b$ F* |: {( w  a" J- e; |% L, {) b所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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& z' f$ c: O( G: h社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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