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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
1 ]8 R5 d1 ^6 JClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"* b! l* d2 z( X8 s- k' E( {# d
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).! }% S6 n% ]" S$ Q- n4 A# a. J
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:$ D# R+ X3 ~  e. P# j- V5 V
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?
! u) R& r8 Q( E6 w. K2 ?+ x4 s0 g/ F她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:1 ?4 A5 v" T# g" ~; i9 T
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Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
! g3 `& i- }4 U6 VShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,* d6 j# t) f  [/ l9 @! v
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
9 I& D# C# q+ Ato get out of our government and to get out of our lives.' i9 b- O' Q1 c; F5 X
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.# \5 R3 l2 S3 K+ q7 Z
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
2 q8 n. K& b- Q- C5 rif we demand He leave us alone?"
+ B  d$ c" U/ e& _& r  W+ D# I' {『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
) \# m' L4 c! }$ R5 _只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
8 V2 d  r4 N' i! `8 l& {+ c不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
) H0 [' ~  z0 B' V; p: z( ^* X6 d上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
( F. N: N2 n# n. w; K: E我們既然強令祂遠離我們,. p( M, Z5 m+ y# I& v0 R. O
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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+ h' _8 H; l! O5 o, w/ X; k: {In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
! P0 l6 s9 {( S1 c: N4 OI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,5 K: J2 h4 P0 {2 J: j
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our  g# H5 w' b' h7 H' a% x
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in3 t( Y5 _$ h1 |4 l" S( w
school...
$ R% Q& L8 \; h! ^* `the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,, H7 f9 M+ _1 S  |1 |! @3 l. C
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.
! r2 A% k! g2 O看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
* b) \2 d6 ?, Y, |# O, U# z/ l我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
! r6 h# W# J; R" K2 E(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
* d! V7 `. t' q2 W" `* R/ g最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
1 j& y7 \. I" l要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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$ @" v: F3 n. B9 a) A9 ZThen Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children; S) \5 `) Z5 @. ]7 E+ t1 m+ ^- ~
when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
8 ^7 |5 t3 D# O+ Pand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed$ k+ f+ j  p" c' x
suicide)+ G1 I+ K6 ~3 ?; @$ S/ P& D
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
. j$ j# S6 u; m( o然後Benjamin Spock博士說," n- p* r8 n' c+ ~
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,: M7 Q  H9 s8 U8 U0 A3 n
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
0 B7 {% ?+ ]( N5 a1 h( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our
  y" }+ H/ c: Y: e. mchildren when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member& a) O* D& O& [  \3 m/ d
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave5 ?2 @- j/ M- M+ Q* I
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
+ H. F" l3 u( a* ^6 Q, uand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
" V& U4 Q% m' R3 }between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
/ P: s6 l* U+ N+ s4 R! Y) Xetc.). And we said OK.
" ]9 w8 N3 t/ l" ^然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,4 P6 g; q- A0 A% J2 E, A# w
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,& c  _$ U$ t1 d4 K
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,4 J1 K( J9 P) Y' K
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),' w9 p  }7 K5 j& ?0 R9 w3 W
而大家同意了。  E3 q: |# ]8 `6 N8 p
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want," B6 p* i/ f; I% ]  H: u
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
& K, k) B  f$ r* b7 [6 m% |Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys& ?$ W0 d$ L' i2 j$ y
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
7 {! n! y& |+ j: ]they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
/ y) b+ g1 |4 Jand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
) u! t( e6 S* [said OK.
9 o* z4 M) ]8 L然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,: P/ l8 |/ l) X0 r# K
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
4 d6 e' F! f+ b6 g8 e然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,6 g" U& T$ O; g: e2 n, f  I
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
# q; a: ^4 B# a( |好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道( C! s" X3 q- ~$ ]' `
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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7 H9 _/ D( H( T/ C/ s' [8 FThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
$ k* ~5 w+ m$ D1 B9 t/ ?; z$ gwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,  p" A8 y$ l* I& g
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
& ?5 e4 U) Q2 z1 f9 Q. z2 Rdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
) N& w% ~9 D3 l2 y9 w( |* ^然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
& @5 j6 S$ [" g8 Y只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
. q- o; k0 z6 W6 j- x! d# b/ m任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >2 C* M" {# a7 ]5 \
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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6 j, E$ e+ E: A1 EThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
. S0 A+ {4 ?! j2 w$ ^, b. Z6 L2 Mand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty% t5 m- \6 z/ E! g
of the female body. And we said OK.
% {! V: o* k$ h5 y然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,5 U' Q; [1 s4 |+ e
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。4 N5 \5 A1 c9 Y4 c

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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and# Z0 p5 {9 e2 T9 x: S# s" K% F
published pictures of nude children and then further again& X/ R: ~, n3 q5 x
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,
8 c0 ?  s; }# b1 tthey're entitled to free speech.) [0 y% I/ X5 @/ n2 E2 |& S3 i/ D
然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,* z/ S  p2 S4 L1 v1 x! I/ @% q# p
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
: n3 [. C+ S. f8 Y  d他們這樣做是言論自由。* q1 i/ o$ f( w! }3 T8 @
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
. p+ m& \' S7 {that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
' |+ O) y4 M: o  M. p+ ]that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.6 m8 V1 E0 j4 @5 U0 [% v
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
$ h. R& N: Z, Q; c6 j6 K- dnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.6 f3 z: v4 K$ A  J2 Y- p. D' u8 P2 s
然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
2 |# B; u  w$ }) ~不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、$ |. V0 c  g6 l/ A0 k9 X
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:
7 U- }2 R# V4 M那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。, d8 A$ y) t/ P) O5 f+ D
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1 q0 L' t3 V2 p, n+ u# [Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
. y+ @+ d$ P8 {/ y/ a7 A5 u" cwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
% O6 D7 n* W1 Uto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,- t# L0 A6 N+ K0 f: K3 Q
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.9 ]. N& X$ y3 v2 ?
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW.": I5 O/ v6 q# N7 E! |# \( p
如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
, H/ V; ?% y" b7 J+ E3 y" x為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?
+ z; \* u: C. v, y6 J; u1 q$ Y2 r為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
( x3 R& a0 }8 H$ z) o假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
1 _  L2 G7 Y5 ]% A$ o- t我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。% k$ X. c6 V0 X
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
) t/ n( t* O1 n2 A3 e- }$ ?; Fwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers& L' t" L5 b  p8 o
say, but question what the Bible says.
, `1 W' [; U( {( ?9 X" q( \' ~實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
% v( a4 d5 r' v* N; N/ T實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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# i/ q$ k1 z" V+ i0 y$ yFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
% ]% J# l8 J# uwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,  a0 C4 b9 c% B& o) U
people think twice about sharing.6 J" j8 C# A! M9 W% `3 Z# O
實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;& c- _& l2 z- p
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,4 L& c! C* Y+ l, J
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
8 E/ A: c' I9 [through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed8 W3 j0 F; v8 L! I3 D  c
in the school and workplace.
, T8 e  _( u. F9 F, X# p- h實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章
) l1 i5 @2 i9 {# R4 V3 o- ^透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;; Y) E- {  l" V: r. J
而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?9 E* f* U/ x5 {# I
你笑了嗎?4 M0 \' u+ M8 g$ C7 u  A: P- p

( e  a1 {. \/ vFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it3 [4 D* ?  B- R0 K, t
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,6 x+ z# E8 N) S
or what they WILL think of you for sending it., I! s: x! P& }, h
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
4 F" \  _! f  K) V, S& C, Tthan what God thinks of us.8 l" F$ l- \* y" J
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,) |7 a; W. ]6 a/ N
因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,! H4 d7 k& F) u+ S% h9 _  u5 B# W
或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。& u. K3 W9 j5 ]! @7 }/ b* S
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,4 N. m, x" X' K; T! m' Z- N
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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% j; R# m6 Q, ^% {4 W; VPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...6 H0 i- A/ `8 \& e. w% _6 R4 g8 r% u
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
6 U# a: T5 x! r1 E+ h) X7 Dsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!9 J/ l2 t, @0 a8 G
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話3 ~/ X( b$ w0 ^5 o, e% n
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,  X3 G1 T5 f1 a4 ~0 _( U
但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,7 m0 o  q0 S0 f
你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.# m: |/ a$ }/ G: W" H7 c

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上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
2 w' }3 t% C% s1 z5 r7 Y2 O% a  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶+ t1 l3 |! s1 H6 O" m& q1 B4 |" X
有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
% O- F; u. u' q' U! ?# v这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了  |- l  ?% ~' H! p; X  @9 m9 P
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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/ N* U" w/ _2 A/ o) z6 L# ?社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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