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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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2 V1 J9 N; N! x+ L* e4 fTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ) f# @/ M" s  }8 E

. T6 ]& V6 s2 e# K! XThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. & L  i6 S. l0 d" K, z5 \3 S  X0 t

! D- G9 I5 |, @* e" u, s3 ]"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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/ `; B. I8 P( X' [& z7 q* TNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.! X7 d( ^' R/ }/ W9 p$ x' e

: z( X, ~: d+ h& W  pTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 9 `3 o  G5 d$ b6 k2 p
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year., `, C& h" f5 h7 y/ _
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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  Q( }- i% I6 \3 F- r! Ehttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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) L/ @# q* Z- @& o/ d+ STD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。0 h7 D0 F$ l! n: r; V2 v2 y6 u
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。# O+ c, i% m9 K/ z6 A% K. r
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
" |' B! ^' h8 A+ s* a* T跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了+ m' b$ V& C4 I
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
0 o4 H7 z$ n5 g) j* t+ lWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
: N6 C% Q: Y7 D  ~# j+ }boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
- Y2 m& q. w- Z) Q5 U3 `  [( eare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to+ V. O& b+ j7 a" }# \9 k* s
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
  R8 x5 q* A. Z5 g% N' d- v; qformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
8 v( I0 K5 X2 q- Rfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
  |$ M/ u4 h) ?$ L- Mthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and* K+ g4 Y7 K- ~) A* _2 s
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous9 X1 x  M6 P, X; z" P0 x
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
7 @# B6 Z8 s' n' wprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined" Y8 X% Q+ m6 t
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
: Z1 H0 A! k5 H- X2 d1 tprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this3 c! }# F& \: C) U. Q3 P  t- A
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,1 B3 s3 v* y+ K) \+ g! x& @. Z
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
: P6 O8 w8 U  |: D( {' M30,000 new households will form in the province during! g( z; \- q6 A# L( w3 ?! u
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
2 k7 Y( F: ^. AEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
/ O4 ?9 N5 R0 V6 ?homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%. Z' G% Y: _4 w7 v
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
: t3 Y" @) L) }9 }: x4 P1 V0 shas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
1 p0 p* l% _: mhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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% f# J9 V( q6 f- Q& tsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of  ~# M3 P4 c5 [% u0 g, ?
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a/ W* J/ g6 _2 h
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
' f! Z# q! s4 r  Kbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
# q6 I2 G1 D: g: Ttwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in$ V3 L4 @; u6 ^9 T. u+ ?% ~9 C
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747) n4 N# Z0 v% c: `0 b- a. Z! b' M
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest) r. V$ I; w) m) G) e% L
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the1 v# q' e1 `! l* Q) S
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
$ E- z$ e2 J/ A* Y) nmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
" R+ r4 B0 b' v3 C5 ~; _$ [of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
: i: o, Q* D4 b- |) Y/ qrapidly, resale markets already appear saturated./ C) C  S* d7 L, l/ u. G
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
1 W3 c$ X( |  T1 r4 Sboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.2 k  M2 \" P" X# f: W* \
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan( N5 e1 V* l# w. X% J! P$ q0 u
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
5 E% m. L& w! Y+ {0 ~* orelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
# f) T) n* ]' {7 C+ U! k0 O% @prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
) [) f1 X+ x. P* Y4 u0 N/ N- ^though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
: u( t/ O- L: f5 k8 o% qon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( d5 U0 N. D, z: h6 Y4 f: Q( V
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
+ q$ u# U" A5 |# W2 L3 Z' t. hhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
# m9 K1 {& C6 n. w$ Qdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
7 ]' m% f5 |+ b5 {8 }0 Y0 FAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
0 p" X$ k8 v* e4 u8 @; F0 z. e- aAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. . N8 j& I) w5 o7 Y
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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