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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. # P  {. l7 R* \  Y

& B  [4 \$ N% j/ }, }, E7 ~9 J& kThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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$ r# c8 U% I$ |, p7 W! x& L"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. - J, q7 z1 Y7 X0 N6 w5 j. J

6 P4 n' O* R% c- |9 S7 RNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.+ C( g' R9 M9 x# o

: G! \/ ]" J' u7 UTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.- c6 c  Q0 U+ J) l+ C

2 W+ L, j2 y  @! y, i; l) C6 |) v"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. . l2 D$ C: l( L8 W$ B% n( v8 e

& y9 U% b* m4 C4 z% ~TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ! Q' T$ E: p5 w* e7 n6 P" p, b
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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  I7 |1 ?8 ^8 J7 F. @$ t5 t" m' iTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。) P- I' A" I" I
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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5 l$ d# s8 L$ G( K: w. p% ?7 C8 h) H' E* p[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
3 |, _3 Y/ n$ c5 U" `  \. ]跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

1 \( |4 W, h; }, b很多人都回学校深造去了
: C" w* c' E& u* O0 R嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
# D$ W: D$ X; FWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
' ]8 N8 |; H1 ~boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
* ^7 |, W- }( \7 {. F0 \  s1 i. I3 cformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided8 u7 ]2 E% W  V% F5 }" g2 X% N
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
9 D6 n6 U7 @5 B+ L( i; ethe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
' `9 [1 V. @! b/ T2 Emay even cease completely during 2009. The previous/ L3 E& S( z' `+ o, f& p
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed9 i! s" z4 L! D
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
$ u" t2 l7 H4 o& J. r, eto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year1 s/ e$ R: _. G2 j+ p  |3 F; w
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
( u6 n$ D- S, Z; L% j/ t. u$ dyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
4 Z5 U) E. O2 K" z, D" \8 Ohomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around+ f( [1 S7 H- Q/ x/ k
30,000 new households will form in the province during5 q+ u  Y/ G; M
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.. K* S: H4 P7 O+ ^( @
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( e7 L9 {6 c2 X; J% Y) ^7 l& ^
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
" t" o; M# s, }during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
0 |/ G9 _8 B8 K* qhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new0 N- t: T' O- H/ `  k, v* l) `
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals7 Z1 q" q3 e$ }& J  S  R1 O
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
/ z0 D3 D) X& P  R$ h* ]4 esales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
; M! D: O7 @: u" e3 bclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
$ L  @- ^/ K$ d& i1 J9 oexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
7 I, K/ l. ?( z# Y: m1 v1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a$ B0 U; M' ~+ y
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive# `$ @+ y- I. P& N. ~* @
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
* u( }" J, x1 n! @3 C- A6 |two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
' q$ \! k/ C, W0 \! B. N( Qrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the1 |5 p5 N6 q6 a* ?! H6 M! v- a
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s6 ^& c8 Q8 ?2 p2 i" M( a4 y2 S
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories* T' o7 U" }  r1 E
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled+ _0 P- l& ?- u# p
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.' O. x" A: G9 K- e) r5 r
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
5 r; F# H" e8 i0 g/ Y' hboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
5 |5 m  x) y9 [$ HAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 z- o8 D9 s4 S/ p. L0 Hhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
/ m( u  v5 _  d2 L3 Frelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
, o" E6 a, I: Gprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
. w* g" D7 {5 w+ W0 h( nThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average" t8 E! X0 Q. P" {1 i3 A8 e
resale price in February is evidence that past prices% \: K4 g& D+ o1 Z# S7 B; ~
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,( j. {5 V0 h* v4 U' C) j
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,4 M0 B  F# _( i
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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2 v7 c6 e0 d/ w' L- _[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 0 J- A! R# |3 A* @2 e" k. \+ @
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments8 i) r8 L, j$ o# U5 s
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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