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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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/ Y6 M- ]8 f) h7 B8 `TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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6 o) K3 M; K7 P. zThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. / ^% d6 y% c( ]* m  b5 g: }5 `; G
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. # J$ R6 c& @8 {8 y1 Y. ~
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 2 n# M" y6 F3 z) o

4 C6 @3 d* B' h( k0 v! g. gTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。' D  v" l! H2 D: c) v
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。7 K2 z, L6 U8 u2 g7 O! E
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 5 \) ]: ?# g) i9 @! R
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
; o& x1 E( v2 `) n3 G嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
& T8 |: \5 H& H$ iWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to: C+ f# p1 H) M+ \7 O
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" n- K: V! a8 }. e$ {; r
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided. f+ g; Q5 h2 c
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
0 X* m( F# w! w! m0 m! ~% g9 [the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
( @* ]# U8 ~. X, ^may even cease completely during 2009. The previous% ?4 U; X# S% u2 Y- E+ Q
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
0 S4 c' v" F- |) V! q+ oprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined# O" I1 [3 C* Q# l/ b
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
- t1 d! M3 H3 M8 C" Fprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this- [9 D* V# [$ l6 W
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
+ r; ~4 a" m' Khomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
& {/ g! t) m! n3 ]2 T1 v30,000 new households will form in the province during0 c& @; U  J3 a7 f; g1 G. U* e# {+ B& g
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
! h. `9 F* @5 ]2 x& A0 o6 DEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
$ R% }! n* p: W* f* Ehomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new3 K; k$ Y/ x3 J& O! G' S2 Z
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of) i$ C; R1 }5 V. m! ?1 x
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a/ I  K" d* o( \( H0 v" L
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 ^$ X( P# `1 z6 }( }5 ?7 Y
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in; z3 A/ `3 l* i: i* a
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in: W! x+ c/ t% `* c# ?
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747: u# p6 u# N& ]. z+ k- u. e. b
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest/ l# G# \0 P" y8 z" M5 r$ [
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the: [1 Z* m6 d& u; {# o& V
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled, |; m  q$ k8 e5 Y0 o+ \
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
$ _1 z5 g% y. j$ GThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
2 U* K4 S2 w4 P# X6 H) pboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.% L8 d9 I" V" s' H9 u2 L( Z
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
. E5 ?: U' D% b4 }housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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/ j- y( {' x) ]+ Lprices substantially eroded affordability and, even! [- u- p% P) `: u( {9 l
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
/ |1 ?: ]8 Q: L' J: O& ^* s* b5 N" x- ~on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
* M! z7 X. S# W3 ]$ e% }The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
, G3 Y: o( Y3 |: }$ n0 zresale price in February is evidence that past prices/ v* H4 L: ~1 {: g2 O4 X( \) N, ]# P2 v
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%" \  h' e) I6 D. d" N, A! s4 m
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
6 J4 d0 V' A  |/ Q5 oAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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, T; z7 h4 H* V, B0 C! ^6 G[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 3 ^# s' l! h. J# i/ k
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments/ i4 Z- z9 V/ |$ _8 }. ~

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