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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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2 [' g% E1 z6 O* G- A/ |2 NThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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1 o0 Z# [! ~" J$ z8 l  J6 S"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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+ j+ G9 B4 y# o! b0 B$ Y4 QNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.3 t- Y7 T& s/ a! I1 Y7 C5 z/ N

1 H$ I8 e8 K. E3 H9 E/ ITD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.4 a& ]5 [5 D; |* c3 k. f4 l
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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2 m1 y, Q' [8 Y. j1 D8 ]TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. & ?" x, |2 s' ~, g) _

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,) ]! @' t. L' y7 y" y* m  D8 a% U

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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。  b$ Y# x; F& B7 u, T+ k8 ]1 y
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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1 J4 W! t4 \8 }0 t7 z[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ; q8 v! e1 ?+ {; D+ z2 _
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 l! {9 s  A$ M# f- C4 \很多人都回学校深造去了# [& T7 @8 X+ g$ K$ k# J8 @( L! N
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta8 L& U( R! p8 Z0 a4 M! v' ?$ a& C9 J
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
9 [- J" D- G# N% eboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
+ F3 v+ [& u0 \3 P  Z( w& s2 Mare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
3 f% X# C- X' _/ \. [1 n2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household9 [0 H% e2 Q6 n2 M$ J
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided; w- d. {( W3 g( R
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 y8 B6 y* m- b" U& H1 z
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and; I: F8 z8 t! A0 q  h0 B! P
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous# v( o' w4 V, M+ M* x" u
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed, `) x% x! W/ @+ S6 \7 ^
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined5 s7 ]6 x* m# V7 F) O" q
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
& \- g& v. r* l5 F- Xprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around4 }5 h' g6 j$ \
30,000 new households will form in the province during
- ~( U$ U7 m, O2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
6 Q) O& R* H/ t: |# J2 ?Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s3 D, U+ U+ x6 X1 `
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
7 x% f* y3 ~0 u/ b  cduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta/ K! @/ u. B) n
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new7 U1 D# n- s# m( l" V1 E* l
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals0 l  M1 K; C. D$ ?8 t
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
; h5 ~% n. r; N* B" p' n& msales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
& D& a  k$ y6 \- h4 [, Rclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
0 @- {- V$ ]3 _8 eexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
# f- a' r! o+ g7 C1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
' y2 p' i. w0 V! {+ ^sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
7 q, M; Y; O3 z0 l9 I% R* [buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
0 E. P- n6 p0 b8 A' Htwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
* {8 G! k, o8 ?6 ]2 ^; e0 b# x* [unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7476 T2 ?8 i$ @# S" J
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
% [0 u" y: Q- b3 Y$ @  W* @recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories2 Q4 u7 B# V% }+ ^( p* G: p
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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  s3 [; h1 f% E0 n: y: z  }# Y9 NThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
! N: f- f4 `2 D0 }0 sboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
9 X' E+ l, M: x, S' k) s3 qAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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7 I5 _1 `) ?" D( ?4 Rrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
. Z5 ^+ I" V, Y& M7 Dresale price in February is evidence that past prices$ k% Y0 V; k; N8 J# `
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove$ Z4 n6 Y7 a; ^4 ]5 J) f
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 x; S" \& i8 s9 B, G$ X
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,: N  N3 c2 ~0 A- T, O  K, ?& e3 i
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
1 a2 \6 V$ r" l+ w6 o6 u翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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5 a" ?/ r, S& Z* X% O/ b1 Khttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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