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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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4 h  B, x6 N- x0 g6 H& ?Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
; u3 P2 k- |4 d. j: zClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"* l; B$ M2 ^  i: o
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).. Q; i- o* o' o( `/ ~
葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:1 K8 D* ]$ x& Q* f% F
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?, ?5 `* r. w' e4 b9 i/ I/ V
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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6 x' z4 b+ E: P: [6 K# g3 ^Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.6 Y, I& W5 m( Z% a
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,0 d" l" U- I! |/ t5 X1 c5 `) a
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,9 Y% X" `  b- `! i5 u% p. e9 ]
to get out of our government and to get out of our lives.  ~' m  @$ T: D2 B; v' C/ A( W; b, X% `
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.$ `+ }, h7 V, p( z4 h7 k+ D
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection
" S$ q! }7 d' Q6 yif we demand He leave us alone?"# j2 i5 {  k: |: i0 k; C; n- u& m8 z% L6 ^
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;8 B! d/ j  o: Y
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
7 \3 n* _8 b- Y, r6 L" x! p不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
. Q3 D6 ?4 g) c2 @1 L( c上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。% Z  E' \& e; ^1 S' E3 E+ y
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,% `! }* ?) T" [4 \- z- Y; y* u
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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& ]0 V) Z! ]0 u7 j' T" eIn light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.: J9 {0 P! |# Y' m) L4 M: m
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,6 T( v8 u, T( n
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our; c& m" W1 T+ D# [$ Y; `  `
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in6 O$ w# O( j. \6 H9 Y6 M6 v* s% W
school...* ^! p! s$ ?1 Y1 l6 a2 M
the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,  O; N. U! A* A7 @& w8 v
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.9 ]5 d2 j% h7 n9 e8 M
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
. q# C' C9 q/ @& h我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士+ |7 V" y- J2 M" b8 |) s0 y
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,
; Z' M) {1 x) `5 \; E- H; p最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、0 I7 P- V+ x$ c% c' ?: y
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。* E. A7 Y1 [( ~- u; `6 {

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
2 L) \9 G# [3 T4 ^8 W! R% Hwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
' {5 n4 Y* x4 xand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
, S5 X; m% ^; E& k( lsuicide)
$ h- i" W* Y, {0 i) hWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.! R3 I$ \7 C  c0 \9 B4 j- H6 L
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,6 Z! K* K( \  i7 C6 g3 ?7 P
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,) `/ a& r! S7 k1 t0 P2 D
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊
  Y: u3 |0 p4 G. P( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。; V% t/ ?: b# L  c% |4 _2 V

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" n- k% I1 x6 G$ wThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our: t( x) K- [8 q* J4 U
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member
8 c- `& f& {( z/ L  x1 s2 ^. ~# qin this school better touch a student when they misbehave6 s6 @9 ^3 n6 O5 p3 Z
because we don 't want any bad publicity,
. u) ^4 q+ ?3 U* N% u% Gand we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference
* z% e( A! x( F; `. z- |between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,. F4 ^+ V4 x, L$ m+ b
etc.). And we said OK.8 C1 y) ]9 L; z, T, y
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,1 N6 F8 C5 w) ?. {
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
8 `( G0 p7 R6 l% L5 c9 y5 Z* f) H! H教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
( m& N5 C' Y" s6 M; \更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),1 _- B* t1 s3 A5 Y# a. ]
而大家同意了。2 T- |: k. G1 q. E. Y
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Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,$ |8 S/ h/ p" D' `' s
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
* {1 x$ w& m" |4 fThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
) m( H7 m# U4 G/ D  fand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
$ G8 L. y: S# H5 X$ P+ Z0 J7 L1 ?they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
9 n, K+ \& H& B6 d0 |# Mand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we8 H! R: Q% Z0 G8 o" p- g4 ^2 y
said OK.
+ B, C) Y- p3 w$ h& w. G1 V9 c然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
/ w5 Q6 J8 D- w甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
- F& J8 Z& N6 E4 |) c7 R然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,* I; J! B. s6 _+ L$ x
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
$ \, J) `$ Z6 ~$ B; E好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
7 g9 j  ]8 w" n) H/ s他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。' U0 {- x4 ^  e/ U7 h: k6 i( e, |( v

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Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter
( B! F2 g+ _5 r5 ]7 Rwhat we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,
$ l: O" k8 x3 R) \( {3 dwe said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
# u  D% T9 D  ]. K4 ^4 ~does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.9 q/ _/ a& ]5 X% V. I% A7 i) u" H4 y
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
- H9 f. r" \& Y, s& V5 r6 P只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,9 l9 A5 [4 a, t) g, U# R9 e& b1 `# x
任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
1 j7 P! k, l' m& M2 U' ^只要我有工作而且經濟看好。# Q0 K. q* A! a1 }$ {

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, j9 D0 @) C9 q1 _6 RThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women# q4 @9 l8 b- D# t: r1 E" q* y
and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty8 Q5 B! S: k( H0 Z( f  T! T; t
of the female body. And we said OK.
. n9 Z' P& i# H. w0 T" W! y& o然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,
0 {  C( T* Z. K) V% Z6 W5 d稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and3 s( `6 j6 r9 R+ Z" Q9 Q+ W
published pictures of nude children and then further again9 A; N% {- j" |
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,/ ^) Q& `5 G9 t( g# @
they're entitled to free speech.
+ O% `6 s- ~; S7 @然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
& n4 q6 N% R% A& [/ k( Q0 o, h甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,0 V) m/ M6 |1 e: r6 }/ {5 `6 Y0 H
他們這樣做是言論自由。/ {" @% y% Y+ @6 `+ }
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/ j8 c8 a+ [3 c2 W& N9 V9 GThen the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies
8 L6 [  _: O! ~1 _: N$ V9 ~that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music/ a) ^" L+ R( }5 ]& d
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.$ i7 z. U/ |: j1 w
And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
6 u$ g# a# `+ }0 nnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
/ {9 A+ w+ `$ @3 z% u/ t然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、
, S7 a. g5 G; G2 y! Y不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、, Q& r6 H. M$ J3 O: Z+ t
謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:9 ], f& ]; k; `: w" [0 }- b
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
' i+ O4 ~5 g0 |. y! P: ^; Y8 g% wwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them
3 X0 g1 \3 c1 z, V% _7 t; kto kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,3 B- N) w' R) F- {1 ?# p$ w1 U
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.( k9 M+ E1 j' a
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
( k  I$ {4 F9 u6 h- r! \如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?7 x  Q* g5 X: O+ W
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?# v& v- H6 y5 I3 R; j0 i4 y1 R
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?$ N4 J) g% c: D. V
假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。: C/ m! @* [3 y  h' c
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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4 Y# }5 X9 |1 {0 E( lFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder$ r6 |$ I* I' t/ D" l% L" T
why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
- o2 ]; O- f# G! B7 u7 Esay, but question what the Bible says.% e/ r) w7 D2 ~5 A$ M: l- A; p/ T) v  a
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。7 J* f6 d0 d( h: i$ [% Y
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。& j+ j- E3 R; K: f1 }* |  }  d
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  {/ Z* l: c+ [3 W# T9 O; pFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like/ P) {& r9 O. W; l
wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,
* v- F, v3 b6 \  N* kpeople think twice about sharing.
+ o$ \0 V  |+ Y$ G1 X實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;* v/ ~# L" j0 f. N  F9 U+ y7 b7 {3 X
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,3 M! z/ {2 N$ h# e
人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。! c. x% M( u, W7 k" B5 L) _% n
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely! Q- }7 @  P- C9 Y8 x' `
through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed4 o& I4 ?) e4 t1 u2 ^
in the school and workplace.  @# \7 F7 E2 s5 n
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章1 I4 [( c; N* Q" V' s$ t" I  G6 e
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
- }% P: F) u# v. R而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。( c# l' G6 D2 p+ L
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Are you laughing?
* V/ b7 _8 r: N7 U9 A你笑了嗎?
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9 H4 N5 x4 |8 y, p( {+ c$ oFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
* O8 O9 ?/ ~% _1 o1 H- u4 ato many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,
% A) z* m, @3 t6 @& v. T, Q% cor what they WILL think of you for sending it.) G: h& p- G. Y, {
Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
0 H& a/ g# @* F$ A( _  wthan what God thinks of us.2 @- C. N/ d( h. C5 L
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
: J* H8 A' t: M. b因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
+ [* }% S+ X2 O/ _" x2 l或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。4 i7 S( a/ k+ R# x  c" @% E, y
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
1 M2 ~* f. B! K6 j0 \7 H& n而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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# v& q3 ~0 F1 n( wPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
. v; s4 R3 q* T, z, i+ l! jno one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
: [0 h2 c( ]0 X/ K( |8 lsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!
. O2 L' ^8 A9 N6 V+ ]% s8 y) H把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話( g) Q& j7 L! u4 t, k/ V5 S! f# p
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
) u( T+ y3 t2 W但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
# z- Z7 O3 W' A" X2 L你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.7 X- ?; d( ^, ?6 ~' N' a+ q

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1 p) I2 t+ y5 z上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。
% m* n, d9 `% c& q8 O* Z  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
1 C/ Y. K# V* c3 E; ?* r有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。: b; u, g: [. J: E7 H' V2 @
这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了7 Y) z* s- Y$ I9 _) ]! \% y

5 a- z1 d: a+ p; R0 t6 b所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。$ A  D0 {! C" P5 t& S4 ?

: y. I8 K5 j7 _7 R$ n; |3 k2 C社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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