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合同工和正式工,如果最后收入相等,工资比例应该是多少?

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鲜花(345) 鸡蛋(0)
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:19 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
summer_tina 发表于 2013-3-14 17:10
( ?$ K: d+ D4 r7 d! o1 _嗯,很多牛人。的确是。7 X* O4 r! ]4 L) E
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当然,也有混的啦
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我看到的合同工还都有些本事,大小之分,混子还没看到过。
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鲜花(345) 鸡蛋(0)
 楼主| 发表于 2013-3-14 22:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-14 21:31 . B  v) ]- ~% l
my landlord's wife, she is a contractor( PDMS designer) in an engineering company, pay is very good, ...
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那么你是没有试用期吗?
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:51 | 显示全部楼层
Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel insurance
7 k7 C) g" t( R* Q6 i( v/ zcard, if I visit china, US, cover accident. My medicine is 100% cover, I got them. the glasses $250, sate shoe, $150, message $500/year, foot pads, $400, clean teeth and filled, 100% cover, since tomorrow,
; G7 `8 U9 ^) Q  H% q: m7 wI will enjoy my benefits, I select the Sunday overtime. Normally, 3 months, but I worked 1 week, they gave
1 `9 \. w7 A, c( u3 R. jme these card, filled RRSP form, I never ask them, interview, I only ask wage, other I didn't ask.About low EQ
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 16:58 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-14 08:32
9 ?9 }. y' S' _7 M还有心态,运气。而往往心态会影响运气。& K. g6 s. V8 H5 E* b% z* r- g* [# g. b. o
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你这里说的能力,不光是技能方面的能力,更重要的是EQ的能力 ...

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鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:33 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 17:51 % Q4 n1 }! D! x' b/ ?2 V( z
Now I have enjoied the benefits, I have 2 cards, 1 great -west life benefit card, other is travel in ...

' H5 I6 R$ L% S. S; C- Y! E其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 17:43 | 显示全部楼层
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 18:33
/ e) b( u5 a0 _( S) H* d& g" e# }6 \其实,这就是employee的缺点,强制消费.
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no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,
$ y8 x# Y- f; Q  QI like vwry much, it is free, only RRSP reduce from my pay, employer pay 6%.' ~! A! D" s* w$ q
Tomorrow, I will do message, nothing pay, I show my benefit card, they take your NO,! L( E) I9 E% _8 L" u
ask insurance company pay, no me! 5 A0 _: g! N& r# Z5 U: y
Why not? I go to Wal mart, $250 plus exam fees, all the insurance company pay!
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鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:13 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
自己做,啥都没有的路过!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:19 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 18:43 ! x9 B! L5 ?' F# }0 T$ Z' E6 H
no 强制消费, 100% cover, I don't need pay anything, insurance company pay,
5 w/ b0 F1 l, p7 m4 V8 B$ ^I like vwry much, it i ...
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你还是没有理解我的话.
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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$ k5 [; {5 j& L" z9 C3 C而employee把该到手的钱变成这些福利了,这不是强迫消费是什么?
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象这些,给了我,我都不会去消费的,那换成钱,到自己口袋里,想怎么花就怎么花.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 18:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 . `/ q/ p0 }1 g8 t/ P
你还是没有理解我的话.
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* `; {2 P- p% |' g$ R. HContrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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classes, every 2 years I must change, RRSP I buy it every year,  I every day eat medicine, clean teeth
% E$ ^0 E% A$ P/ H6 Fevery 6 months, filled, I changed 6 teeth, teeth treat, expensive. message, facing I like to do. If i happened
+ w  @8 X# h1 @) {# L4 Haccident, my daughter will get compensation. no more charge me, I like. I enjoy.) F- j  x! I2 Y; p. t3 Q
In the future, i would like to try a contractor position. Now, they need me, I keep this position.
7 P3 z! `% \8 z) ?how long, I don't know.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:14 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19 / ]7 c8 z. `; Y, I1 x: }
你还是没有理解我的话.
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.
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四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must pay by myself. I had heavy sick, on time eating medicine, keep to work, health is the more and more better.
鲜花(1337) 鸡蛋(54)
发表于 2013-3-15 19:32 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14
5 a3 z1 j5 g( _' n" a; n5 Q  q四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...

6 s" a9 S9 Q2 K7 L$ l9 O姐姐的这种情况,不适合做CONTRACTOR,真的!
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-15 21:15 | 显示全部楼层
my positions always are perm! my best position are in Wichita,KS, US, manufacturing engineer, in aerospace9 V+ |+ ~. ~5 z8 ~, D/ ^
area, because of I have not US greencard ,US citizen, I cann't work long term! In Houston, design engineer6 X( {* g) R3 ~2 p8 G
a single office, for my daughter, I quited this good job, come back AB, driving a car about 4 days. Then,
5 b  X: w6 l' p* ~; F2 w. hcome in Ontario, picked up my daughter to Edmonton from Ontario.
* k8 M& T0 t. @0 B5 Y, G1 E10 years ago, I was a labor in KUS canada, 12 hours shift, 6:00am to 6pm, or 6pm to 6am, after  6 months I moved to winsor, KUS closed down! In Windsor I started professional position.
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Thanks! lovely small girl!
鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-15 23:31 | 显示全部楼层
同言同羽 置业良晨
marie 发表于 2013-3-15 20:14 5 m0 j( N' \$ F9 }
四十不惑? maybe you are too young, I must eat 2 medicines every day. if no more benefits, I must p ...
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我不年轻了.不过我每年花在看病吃药上,不到100加币.其实也很多年没看病了,连体检都不去./ l: L  w; n* m- t1 Y
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洗牙是回国再洗,我受不了这边的,洗一次牙,都要让你走两趟.
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象你的身体情况,真不应该老换工作,每换一次工作,就得迎接新的挑战和压力.应该找一份比较轻松的工作.
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 13:48 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
current benefits come from of 换工作, if there are no 挑战和压力, the company never hire me.3 T3 a, b8 m. ^  k& V
I cann't show my experiences. Next step, they will train me to learn new software( 1 week), I will lose
; F! t8 j; O- n9 }8 u  Rthe good chance. Don't worried about 老年痴呆症. Life is in moving
# w) g" K0 z" L0 fTomorrow, I still work( overtime) 10 hours(7am-5pm), I will edit some programs and setting.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 量子风水 于 2013-3-16 14:57 编辑
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/ F! b3 K8 y5 e7 z合同工与非合同工,是看自己的成熟程度。如果成熟程度高,又不等钱用,合同工是优于长工的。我公司的创办人之一,已经到退休年龄,他就是做contractor。他可能是三五个月都在世界各地旅游了,偶尔才回公司一次。他是远程办公,用网络通过安全卡来做测试。( F8 @6 Z0 e0 P
我在卡城的同事,也是喜欢做contractor,他是‘从来没有在家闲上二个月的’,工资都不低于10万一年。
( }8 Y) X# A% K$ e9 R0 k" I$ D$ }这与他的职业性质有关,他是做C#之类高级程序研发,这种职业面宽。而我就学不了他,我的专业面窄,是不宜做contractor,只能先后senior engineer/lead努力,以后再图其他。
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:50 | 显示全部楼层
同时与marie一样,在专业领域有相似成功,也曾经长期单身的女性,但即有不同的处世方式,并且应用得成功,而且福泽下一代,这种类型的女性,还是值得佩服与学习。+ S3 ~1 c2 V2 b: F/ _* e
印象深的一次,是她家邻居有个冷气机,夏天时噪音很大。她不是去投诉人家,而是用想用一种和平的途径来解决纷争--显然,邻居并非有意,这是可以用和平方式解决的前提。这样做当然成功,邻居将冷气机的防护罩去掉,噪音就很小,而夏天热天也没有几天,所以不伤和气。8 v+ Z9 L/ _+ }
世界不是你一个人的,即使是毛公这样的政治家,有杀子之仇恨的美国,都要建交,所以适当使用妥协,也是一种很好的途径。
! Q2 G' K4 R& P0 w" M/ x当生活中没有那么多纷争时,人生病的机会就少。
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 14:56 | 显示全部楼层
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八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-15 19:19
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Contrator没有这些福利,但把这些都兑换成钱拿了.

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1 X( M4 p6 U3 b; `" hThese are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details,
/ Q% U3 {+ q1 Hbecause of I never become a contractor, let me know about contractor knowledge please
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Dental Benefits Summary:
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Routine               
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        Endodontics                 100%( `. I. C3 Q7 x
        Periodontics                 100%& ]7 F4 B& r% S) [- `; K6 `3 V" Z
        Preventative                 100%# \8 x. |8 t" }8 n2 O
       
+ y6 G! z" L+ ]3 Y% F1 H; Z        Global Medical Assistance         Covered9 ~5 o  [2 b8 @  w9 D& M- \. N

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鲜花(123) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2013-3-16 15:20 | 显示全部楼层
marie 发表于 2013-3-16 15:56 & V- k7 A) R* H6 M
These are from my account details( my benefits), please compare your contractor details," m6 w. Y' t' [# E8 _
because  ...

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( K& X" B! G& f还真没见过给这么多Benefits的公司呢,你这个位置肯定很重要,你在公司也肯定很重要.1 R4 X& _3 v; Y' r7 V1 D8 Q

* w) C+ p+ T' X) t& V" K2 C" j好好享受这些福利啊.如果觉得合适和足够的话,就别再换了,公司给这么好这么多的福利,也是为了能留住人才啊.
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) ?3 j5 _" M, |- U3 Z至于Contractor的细节,我也不想多说,其实也没什么好说,你列出来得所有福利,一项都没有,就简简单单的,每小时是多少钱就多少钱.
鲜花(844) 鸡蛋(29)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:10 | 显示全部楼层
中国人口是13亿,而加拿大是3千万,这种差异,使得在加拿大,有几十人的公司,就是中型公司了;有几个工程师的团队,就可以服务一个中型公司。这是在优势上,不能用中国的标准来衡量加拿大的标准。0 ^3 K" R7 @% M- Z' u
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所以,在这里,如果一家中有两个或以上的同一类别的developers, 就有可以形成一定的气候,可以外接一些简单的程序开发项目;如果再联系另一家,就可以做更大一些的项目。而contractor是向这个方向努力的最简便起步途径,这种contractor就是一种'自雇‘性质的管理。- l( a) b4 w/ U" B1 T. `
成功是经验、管理与技能的三重积累。人家有这种条件,不但有两个或以上的程序员,而且朋友圈中也有许多程序员,从而可能产生能量聚合,这就当然向这个方向努力。
鲜花(1005) 鸡蛋(11)
发表于 2013-3-16 17:53 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
八千里路云和月 发表于 2013-3-16 16:20
0 o0 U- d  s' U9 ~7 V谢谢你啊.
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I will, thanks!
+ X% y* ?; p& F% o/ HI was a small engineer in china, same as me in china, too many ,too many! I never did team leader, never
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