I would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache / U9 V# u" V6 D5 Q5 z% i: Z & e# r$ t5 b: l9 }) d* V1 XCalm down everyone please. 5 s/ o+ Y8 k5 ?7 i: K0 y' A" F/ I+ T' I; ]5 \( b
不存在 can mean two different things:+ v8 I: t# D7 Z
- g6 h+ Z# F% k- w) u/ r2 R1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc.2 {+ {" L+ P2 v6 Q& g; T( m5 q
2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 * k1 c# B1 z8 P ( H) O6 L1 A: H5 B+ HI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist $ W& t7 O+ I I7 A8 P - i* @. x8 x7 I8 ~. i0 a( {) V7 O[ 本帖最后由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:29 编辑 ]
原帖由 eastroster 于 2006-6-8 03:13 发表 # q7 v+ i6 u$ V9 L' W$ g+ |( g2 mI would like to see more Debate, not Fight. Debate for fun, fight to get a headache" B* Y, ]: j3 s2 v- ?
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Calm down everyone please./ `2 x/ X: j7 O* P( m, L9 t
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不存在 can mean two different things:! L! a* D* h8 E! q0 Y3 N9 R
; Q* Z) ?8 _9 @- |1: 不存在 (not yet). Such as a house before construction etc. & W/ u/ ~9 N( [- `( T7 y8 g2: 不存在 (never exist) such as 上帝都不能举起的石头 / x9 j0 {+ \, G' Y6 F . @9 W( p# T, \1 W' _" B1 @4 `4 Q$ hI assumed that dora's 不存在 meant never exist ...
6 i( ?/ Z' R5 q% q# `0 a ( d* N8 U; p2 q) l小铜子,, 你的1和2根本不是对立关系.. 1并不能否定2. 1只能refer to current state, 2 refer to past state,过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来就一定没有吗/?/? 上帝的无所不能不应该体现在能创造将来吗/? 她根本不能自圆其说.
4 }9 m! F+ w! g: w" x$ F* m9 x" s% b& X) Q( c0 p7 F2 O Did your GOD ask you to curse people this way?" Z- v2 T1 ~8 o; Z1 d6 G
If you really have a 宗教信仰, I believe your GOD will shame on you!
! {% _: T- W. _' t, X8 S ' ?" T) i+ B; b9 A0 V8 u2:" never exist" refers to 过去没有,, 现在没有,, 将来一定没有!!! ' Q- _% x6 F" B( M _/ L# t/ A! @) k4 n, J* D3 M/ g
At least dora meant that I am pretty sure.
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那按她的道理,, 首先这点就错了.. 人出现之前没有,, 在上帝造人时也没有,, 造完就有了;; 过去没飞机,, 现在有了,, 你不觉得这个assumption是强词夺理吗.. 假设如果你现在5岁,, 你过去没长毛,, 现在还是没毛,, 你说你将来 肯定不长毛/?/?
原帖由 也无风雨也无晴 于 2006-6-8 10:30 发表) O5 h$ u. Q6 @2 x3 R& r
宗教信仰是一种自由,信也好,不信也罢,别恶意攻击别人, ...
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Arguments on religious believes always turn out to become very emotional (if not violent). It has been like that for hundreds of years (if not thousands of years) 3 j& C H( u( C# y. X4 R' Y7 ~9 G4 U5 K. K: X, B; Y, q7 E
Maybe we should stop argument. 6 K: n4 {1 c9 v5 R) s5 a% b- \
/ L/ ?- A& ]2 x, K" E/ K5 B% OMy commoent " Dora's 逻辑 is correct " was with the view point of logistics instead of religion1 X* J) k( |& d2 y1 k9 ^4 y
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