请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

billzhao

ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗？从老云的帖子里面看时这样的，但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢？

另外，有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么？肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧？

google上找了半天无解，所以上来请教。

FrankSoccer

I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion. 9 n2 R- g+ e, b1 ~$ W Ha Ling Peak                                                                 2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta 7 ^% e) Q1 D! W$ ?! k0 Y5 C                                                        Latitude 51; 03; 30 Longitude 115; 24; 00, Topo map 82O/03                                                         # f2 l0 F- E8 e) {3 M                                                        Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                                                        * |4 o* m  f+ d6 y3 W% ?                                         Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; ' O# Q* C. B+ x' s2 U	Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates 9 B1 v$ P2 q3 F' G                                                                More photos
S3 h1 X/ G/ X                                                Other Information 9 k3 A% I8 c2 f/ x2 w6 k                                                                                                                                        Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore                                                                                                                 Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=]. ! M: j8 @0 D- [3 Z$ u- q. G3 KThis mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year. 7 W7 i7 Z# ^3 _ ( \; H7 D7 G4 X3 V2 P2 hHowever this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10. Both stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be? 3 q) L- s# L* k- ], A% F - M8 I: G. }) o3 P' h5 B# W4 q[/url][url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.                                & B/ c7 f" ~+ I$ S2 J9 k, G' f- R5 k1 p
Scrambling Routes                                        An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81

billzhao

- J5 e# I  P8 Y  m9 M/ ^谢谢frank，这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧，听说是个很Popular的hiking trail，同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。

FrankSoccer

It is said to be the best trail in Canada.

kingsnake

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3 \# X; J6 d" ]$ N( ^6 m& Z( B這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子，在 5 小時 30 分内，打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
2 s# a8 e, l! f% Q之前，因為不知道他的名字，又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.

billzhao

這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子，在 5 小時 30 分内，打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
. [8 D) D( V8 d" ?; Q  y- O之前，因為不知道他的名字，又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
" A; D7 Y  O, H9 hkingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29

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除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外，还有其他来源吗？
7 k& s& q! m, Z, b4 @那么，Ha ling 姓林名海？
5 Y7 Z2 P, @8 }  Q: V中文翻译成叫林海峰，海林峰，哈灵峰？
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另外广东话把lin读成ling，hai读成ha？

多谢！

放风儿

谢谢frank，这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧，听说是个很Popular的hiking trail，同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
8 ~& g" [9 {1 D# G, [7 C; t/ x+ E* @billzhao 发表于 2011-10-3 11:09

; ]+ e( u2 M) ~" G( ]# k实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路，首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时，现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路，但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak，但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi，所以知道此山不算难。

billzhao

凌海吗？

billzhao

实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路，首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时，现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路，但是属于很容易的入门级。
3 Y# _  E7 c6 T2 O放风儿 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39

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入门级更好了，

billzhao

云山水月

1886年的时候，加拿大的华人，遑论中文原名，能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧！

- ?) M- G, @. I6 v; X他们没有政治地位，没有经济地位，他们只是劳工，如同奴隶一般的劳工。
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# H9 g) m" k$ c4 k: Q9 I/ f8 xHa Ling Peak，很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的，还有海莲峰的，这就差得比较远。我不会广东话，所以只好猜测这个Ha，其实是姓“夏”，Ling，可能就是“岭”，或者“灵”“陵”“翎”，这个就无从判断了。

: C# t( J% ?) w如果一定要翻，我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”，听着比较顺口。
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你这个问题，或者马健威会有标准答案吧！呵呵。

billzhao

1886年的时候，加拿大的华人，遑论中文原名，能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧！
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, A3 Y+ O# M7 m* R" ?( L' E他们没有政治地位，没有经济地位，他们只是劳工，如同奴隶一般的劳工。

Ha Ling Peak，很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...
; v1 a) h$ P- {* s: D% I! @云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22

謝謝，有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了，只是好奇而已。
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5 L. S3 s) u; K5 Z6 E/ V" o在找到真名之前，先叫他夏靈吧。