Hi Lorne Gunter, Shame On You!

伊尹

Hi Lorne Gunter,
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- w8 b2 t" o9 k  S3 t1 RYour Article about China of March 31, 2008 in the Edmonton Journal presents nothing but your prejudice based on rumours and lies.  
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Mr. Lorne Gunter, Shame on you!
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( z% n/ U, i- d6 D( K8 ?" o0 f: pHave you ever been to China? If not, Shame on you!
Have you ever been to XiZang? If not, Shame on you!
% f: n, j: }& FHave you ever read a history book about China? If not, Shame on you!
Have you ever heard how XiZang people sufferred from the mizerable slavery system in the past under Dalai Lama? If not, Shame on you!
Have you ever talked to normal XiZang people about how their life being improved? If not, Shame on you!
Have you ever done a little research about China's minority policy and how the policy has been implemented in China? If not, Shame on you!
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# l1 S3 z( U7 T% w! o$ B. VIn the Edmonton Public Libary there is a good book written by a tourist about Xizang and how Xizang's culture has been perserved. If you haven't read it, Shame on you!  

XiZang people, like Jilin people, Shanghai people, Beijing people, are our brothers and sisters. We have lived together since long time ago. We are all part of China. China is our mother land.

Mr. Lorne Gunter, tell me how you do think that you are qualified to say" China doesn't deserve to host Olympics". Shame on you!
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(Note: Link to original article: http://www.canada.com/edmontonjo ... 7c22a18598&p=1.
* h. U' q1 `/ m) P5 B如果你支持此贴的观点, 可以用更有力的言辞对LORN'S 文章加以驳斥. 也可以直接发邮件给LORNE'S EMAIL: lgunter@shaw.ca 表达我们华人的心声.)

烟雨江南

黑金

太cool了！！！！！

hnalvin

Hi  Lorne,
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I have read your article published by the link below.

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjo ... 7c22a18598&p=1.

Honestly, I am very disapointed that I can see a lot of assumptions and prejudices throughout your text. I am wondering that how much do you know about the China and Tibet. Did you learn from newspaper or textbooks? Anyway, I know that you must have an very negative imagine in your mind on China.
     
Do you know Chinese history, and Tibet history? From the text you wrote, it is hard to believe that you are very famaliar about China and Tibet. Have you been to China or Tibet and how long have you stay? Do you think you are very objective and without any emotional judgement on China. If not, I don't think you have the rights you judge China.
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I have been to a lot of Places and countries in the world, or even much more than the counties you have been to. I studied in western europe and understand that there are some differences between China and western counties or even you call the distances. But I know how to respect the history and respect other's choices. Do you know  the choices of most Tibetan? How do you know? From the protest on the apperance or in the TV news? How many protestor in total and what is the percentage? Who support these protestors on the back? What are the objectives and interests of their supporters ?  What is your interest ? No investigation , No rights to speak out.

So would you pls just come to China and Tibet to have a deep look around before you publish another article to judge China? You are very welcome !  I can even find a resource to pay you if you are unable to support your trip. how to say? So pity and so poor you may be If you don't want to have a try to visit to see and to hear, and still keep prejudging.

! R2 p* [$ }) K# T# t) N3 YFurthermore, think about your own business before you judge others. What is the situation of Quebec in Canada? Pls just let's their independence. Or could white people move back to europe and return the canada to the aboriginal people since you only have a little more than 200 years residence history in North America ?

( y$ @" |8 f8 g% j$ K* `Be respect and be respected. It's your own choice! You have this kind of freedom because you live in a free country. I also.
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Regards

jenniferming

I think it's very good to point out the situation in Quebec.

jenniferming

Don't know if you guys want to post your article to Edmonton Journal:

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5 _" o3 G; n  p- s$ N& ZMy friend told me that the journal is pretty fair when it comes to printing replies, and one from a Chinese citizen might have more weight than one from a Canadian

wushun

GOOD JOB

古月照今城

   for your hard works.

常华

China 前不要加the.专有名词前没有定冠词.世界上只有一个中国,加上定冠词就是特指哪个中国了.所以要注意这个问题.

常华

原帖由 hnalvin 于 2008-4-2 05:49 发表
Hi  Lorne,
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! P) B( g1 A% W; G8 o0 j. c/ u+ ~  J' H" nI have read your article published by the link below.
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0 N* S' X7 I3 t+ ^2 ~: XHonestly, I a ...

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是否

edmonton journal （780）492-5100
直接找Lorne Gunter，他不在可以留message,接电话的人员会认真地记下你的要求，只要说明请他解释和列举事实。
如此，我们才有可能得到答复
若他未做到调查取证，只是在加拿大境内主观臆断，只有道歉，而且还在同一报纸。

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WhereNext

原帖由 伊尹 于 2008-4-1 21:48 发表
3 V8 Y- W: _  tHi Lorne Gunter,

Your Article about China of March 31, 2008 in the Edmonton Journal presents nothing but your prejudice based on rumours and lies.  

Mr. Lorne Gunter, Shame on you!

Have you e ...

* j! H9 l4 `4 r4 m不支持楼主的用词。类似SHAME ON U 的用语不是客观的回复。我们的目的是回应，不是骂人。

现在再点击那个链接看看对他文章的COMMENTS，其中有的人竟然用骂人的话作为自己的名字，（叹气。。。），也不是明智之举。
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我支持给作者、给报社写信，但一定要不动气，不动粗，否则反而成为别人的口食。
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& p/ Z4 ~# C0 c* z这是我在那里的回复。我也准备再加工整理一下给他们寄过去。
0 r  x# [* S4 JDid you see with your OWN eyes "China's violent suppression of unarmed Tibetan marchers." ? If NOT, please tell us how and why you get this conclusion?

4 I- h; S" `+ u3 t( ^Have you ever read China's history? If NOT, please go to learn it! And please tell us is it true that "China has for decades destroyed symbols of Tibetan culture, demolished ancient Buddhist temples, executed thousands of monks and closed monastery schools."
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"Millions of ethnic Chinese have been encouraged/forced to move into Tibet in the past five decades to overwhelm the ethnic Tibetans numerically in their own country." Based on your statements, then so many people migrating from Ontario, Vancouver, Manitoba. to Alberta, does it mean kind of government forcing???
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Do not put 1989 Tiananmen Square protest and Tibet together. These are two different issues. If you do not understand, please ask some students who were on Tiananmen Square in 1989. This is what they will tell you: I admit there were problems in China. I admit Chinese government did do perfectly in 1989. But, on Tibet issue, I support Chinese government."
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"China doesn't deserve Olympics"-who deserves? Please tell us who deserves? Please tell us your evaluation rules.

伊尹

"Shame on you" are not swearing words as you think. You can certainly use these words to express your personal angry feeling about something unfair to you or to your party. It was used once recently by Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton against her political rival Barack Obama at a large campain gathering.

伊尹

These people like Lorne Gunter have already been brain washed. They may be very nice and reasonable people when we meet them in Edmonton and discuss our daily life in Canada. But whenever you talk about China, they will show ignorant about China and discuss everthing based their prejudice.

# O, {8 P( X; U$ h% T$ NIf you really want to change something, you have to rock them up.

伊尹

This Seminar applies to all brainwashed "Lorne Gunters"
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XiZang Autonomous Region (XAR)       

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Seminar I

5 U0 ^% k- G  Q+ ZXiZang 180 Major Capital Projects in the 11th Five-Year Plan
5 Q) w! [$ i4 [. V& a3 U% }        On January 31, 2007, the central Government of China approved the XiZang’s 11th Five-Year Development Plan including 180 major capital projects. The total capital investment is about 15,671,000,000 USD, of which 11,126,000,000 USD was from the Central Government Financial Budget. This means that for every 10 USD invested, 7.1 USD came from Central Government’s support. This ratio ranked No.1 Central Government Financial Support Ratios among all rest of provinces or autonomous regions.

8 |1 d9 {: O* j' t# J+ kThese projects are mostly related to infrastructure, health care, education, communications, hydro power, drinking water supply, culture and heritage protection, and environmental protection and sustainability. Up to March 2008, 139 projects has commenced the construction, including Linzi Airport, Lasha Liuwu Big Bridge, Zhikong Hydro Power Plant, Shiquanhe Hydro Power Plant, New Campus of XiZang University, Renovation of 22 temples and Culture Heritage Archtectures, Rikeze Railway extensions, and Ali Airport, etc.  
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4 V; q8 t: i# G* _Great Achievements
# m: y  [+ P: SThe GDP of XiZang Autonomous Region in 2006 increased 13.2% from that of 2005 and increased 250% as compared to that 2000. Average GDP per capita reached 1428 USD.

; {% _1 h" m$ ^) |0 w2 n& jSuggest always using XiZang and XiZang people to replace "Tibet and Tibetans" as these words were created by westerners when they were exploring colonies.

yj151

在EDMONTON JOURNAL上发表有理有节的意见或回复。

[ 本帖最后由 yj151 于 2008-4-2 23:20 编辑 ]

luckylu888

http://www.canada.com/edmontonjo ... s/lorne_gunter.html
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5 P0 k' E# |) ~& e; w: H% oLorne Gunter is a senior columnist at the Edmonton Journal, where he has worked for the past eight years and published more than 1,300 columns.
A former Managing Editor of the now defunct Alberta Report, Lorne began his journalism career there in 1991, covering federal and provincial politics, including the entry of the Reform party onto that national scene, the 1992 round of constitutional talks that led to the Charlottetown referendum and Alberta's Klein revolution.

/ `+ R4 K' r$ L1 |An occasional panelist on the CBC's The National, Lorne is a regular contributor of commentaries for both CBC Radio and Global Television, as well as for several private radio services. He has published essays and opinion pieces in various newspapers and magazines, including the Globe and Mail, Readers' Digest, National Review, the Weekly Standard and others.
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Despite his current right-of-centre views, Lorne is a former chief of staff to a minister in the last Trudeau government. He is currently the editorial director of the Canadian Centre for Libertarian Studies, a member of the editorial board of conservativeforum.org and the incoming president of Civitas - a society for conservative and libertarian academics, think-tankers, lobbyists and journalists.

' j7 Z3 F, j( D" E+ E& Y4 X2 AA native of Medicine Hat, Alberta, Lorne is a graduate of the University of Alberta, is married and has two young children.

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中国的少数民族政策及其实践
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