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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞
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+ O6 E* B$ I6 k% q5 Y" ABilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane
  V/ C- Y0 S% `: D6 dClayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"
: s, \; |% a: L, E( }) {(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
( F; ^4 o$ `4 K+ ]葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:$ W8 t9 v; t8 |# S  Y* s
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?  {' @' i( D$ K. r$ k# r
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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% z- c7 [! y+ y1 R$ |. G' [Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.0 e- I& u( W% Z# n* I5 y8 P6 S: Q
She said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,0 v- J3 @5 L# u
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
+ L% s! v) L9 T' qto get out of our government and to get out of our lives., d7 S$ Z. {" U2 M
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.
. }. u4 |" |5 ]) @& QHow can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection8 h$ v6 ]4 u) V3 C
if we demand He leave us alone?"
% v& o0 M( q5 K. P' D( o『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;
: N; Y: n6 ]; u只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,' J1 p. d9 m" I/ w8 E
不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
9 x- Q2 _* }+ `+ e$ F, v% i3 D4 |  i2 X上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。
1 f" Z& f, O, K我們既然強令祂遠離我們,; a0 W) A8 y1 s: @4 d
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.+ e1 l# b* ]; a% n5 U8 W+ V
I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,! A+ @7 A% F! R, z" \
her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our: ?) F' A: _& L! W' z2 W6 C
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
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& [; g( N9 \" F: |2 F- hthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,  {6 x7 S2 \- V$ r
and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.6 Y: \' b% K# M# e
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
. B9 z% n% _7 w0 o我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士; T; L! X: |; E3 z! S% w
(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,* F: n) g9 U+ E, v% E& Y
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、1 P9 g/ r7 C' @' h7 ^; p0 C) l# ^( p
要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。# Z- D6 {' }: B8 W  z

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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
* }. V$ `1 {$ ~1 @  k5 s. dwhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped
7 u& |( p0 h9 C. o% |; H+ e9 e% Z6 Wand we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed5 ^, w+ E4 M/ u/ @9 P/ O
suicide)
  U! a- M" A/ a5 r. G+ i0 C1 iWe said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK., l1 l" ^2 D/ {2 Q/ L
然後Benjamin Spock博士說,
. C# A" i% v: J4 f: u2 e' t" x% u我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,
& T% n2 e& Z- S3 ]以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊9 l3 Q$ q* B0 S& @; _' W3 E4 Q, _0 H
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。% [- x) V9 F2 g

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# @5 V. l8 ~& A! V4 aThen someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our6 p: U# N5 @3 H, T7 N
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member) P3 @+ s" G& T  H3 F; p
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave  ^$ u2 ?! F9 E, l
because we don 't want any bad publicity,0 W: m& m! g) S& U- R* i# ]( k4 W
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference. @! x, v  M1 p7 D  h
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,
2 j7 i5 }$ V3 t9 O8 Jetc.). And we said OK.2 [9 n; I! H2 l
然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,  R- N* M, n; y7 I" i9 a
老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,* U5 C& F; Y% W) X. z8 @& ?
教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,5 }" g, ~* w2 o+ F
更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),# T5 Q  s3 R2 z
而大家同意了。
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0 y2 t) a- `" a/ |Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,- q( Z$ P' ]3 N1 l0 j" j
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
1 k9 h3 q2 H2 X6 U" x$ M0 a' VThen some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys
0 g$ I7 F" t) Z, l2 i" uand they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms  y$ c* g  o' o
they want so they can have all the fun they desire,
1 Y3 O# S0 d& I1 ~2 Qand we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
2 s9 V, [& [9 n+ L. ~! |said OK.
, b- F+ L6 q% \) [, S( M  Z/ A然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,+ k- b* l* l3 o; B9 @
甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。9 |6 j# I, L' H
然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,6 y% f; P6 U+ y2 u. H1 D0 O
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,
4 D, S4 z8 _  j7 Y% E! ^好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道- a& A5 n6 O6 ?0 ?- A
他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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( x' }* x' S; f9 F9 XThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter* n  v1 u# i2 a; ?/ C7 b$ v
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them,0 B! B* f7 G' }+ R6 j# m3 }
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,# h. a( [( c) z( B8 j% |# E
does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.
' S  {$ p. u0 v) m' c然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,5 c9 V9 ]0 j; q- j7 y8 u+ p2 t
只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
8 Q  V! S4 k2 Y" z8 M任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >. r6 j' [; e! s2 s
只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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( I: v8 E  E! w" e  PThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
" W. c7 {! O7 ^. [# y- E: n3 m/ h. Mand call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty" n$ u* O/ m/ M% [, C  R" w) q
of the female body. And we said OK.
. j8 j& U4 F6 n; u5 K* s然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,4 v- f- L2 O/ e/ X6 E; O
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。
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0 x# W- b8 x( G: Y6 \- CAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and7 p' G  d+ I. M  j6 {1 x) n
published pictures of nude children and then further again
4 q' t. _0 E2 k* w& j2 Lby making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,4 ?( }' {# u6 }* t/ ?) Y
they're entitled to free speech.
# d. Y4 y& A/ l6 E4 L1 Y4 ~然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,
. a0 C. {' V% U6 B6 @5 ]0 `甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
/ N5 S3 j6 c$ g0 Y$ x/ y  J) `+ v他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies- @% _3 B6 J# C
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music* N9 {8 Y! m  p8 d
that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
3 Q: K' o9 O5 Y: PAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
! C  I& S  ]3 D. n0 Jnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
5 [5 Z) ]# {6 P4 ?+ P" ^, d: ]% x然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、: ~; _0 J1 a" P4 x$ D, a/ N( Z
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
( ~, X& s- |1 [謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:/ p# |" m( W  v, L; c% A3 K/ R
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。. [# t. G$ `& O/ M/ Q1 I5 ~5 d
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Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
1 S6 ?3 k5 K/ E2 wwhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them1 D% j, X6 R1 E- Z1 P
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,; {' n0 G) b, L: |1 z+ f- W7 a  V
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.
( W) f( |) b* x1 \* s3 ^I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
$ w: e2 C7 O) A如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?
( F8 s9 {" n: W0 Z+ |) ]- K9 B為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?% j4 b' t( G) Q7 y5 N
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
. v, f, W+ [' a& B  \5 A1 p4 P7 n/ F/ ?假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。
4 l+ o: w9 A/ [% l我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。
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+ q& q& F& h% @0 l- E* bFunny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
+ Y8 x! F" {3 s$ P  }2 r) T# o/ Dwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
& S/ s: C9 W: K9 v6 [3 Ksay, but question what the Bible says.
9 J5 {  q; g* v  P& ?實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。+ X) C' Y) K% d' b
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
8 d/ [3 d- K, R5 x$ \, g3 q" u2 P3 awildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,+ \, M4 ]5 s" G& R
people think twice about sharing.
* a, G" H; q6 s: J1 B8 P) J! X! j實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;
( Y1 H+ X3 I5 T4 k  Z  e0 K但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
* W8 j  l, F; D! g人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。
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& d  V; |' p. [: eFunny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
( ?/ {: f# @/ o: A$ G. ^' athrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed9 ^; ]4 w0 M7 A- x- L3 U; s% p" |
in the school and workplace., O5 y. f: n: x# j' I/ L
實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章9 G1 R' p; h' G; ]: G* R/ h
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
( R+ w8 z7 C" z# x而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。6 j1 n# K  |; g& }9 N

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Are you laughing?
/ ?, o; ~# T, @* F) Z% |你笑了嗎?
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! f# w) i2 b+ O7 C0 n) Y, p8 z. GFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it
' M3 ^& \. ?2 I1 A9 `) |$ Gto many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe,: t2 L* G+ U2 l; S9 E
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
2 H( `2 D8 p# m  [- l2 IFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us  ~% o, J9 ]+ [& G: T+ P. q5 r
than what God thinks of us.3 r  s' T! B% O; e+ ~: Q) p6 n
好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
* Q* t* N" x5 Y: ]* a3 ?因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
* }0 w3 m7 g# f- H; }或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。) c; \4 h1 R8 C  G! W( N
可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,$ A( b& F9 i8 r, ?6 l
而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。
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, X" U& p$ P; P  [- w) DPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...* ^" d& p3 E  O+ n' K# [( [% C
no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
! {/ o- v, }2 w- Z* t9 x  D4 M( Hsit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!- T  N5 W3 N5 \, g% y9 f4 _
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話" k$ s5 l4 M" C2 P7 D
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
6 z, z; }& H  }' S但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
, t" k4 \( \5 A3 m你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
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发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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7 f# \, Y0 c; K4 ]( S1 |1 V上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。3 m/ ~4 U4 C. R3 {
  May God bless you!
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发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
6 X9 V/ H6 [7 y, s0 a4 x有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
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 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
4 k% h# M/ g3 j; P8 N& j  t8 p* H, ^这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
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发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了% F/ z* _) x. e7 G$ L

$ z9 t  d, i% [0 O" s' Q) X所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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! ?6 b1 L3 \( T) {6 l3 x社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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