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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞

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发表于 2006-11-23 21:12 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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上帝為何允許我們的社會如此敗壞5 v  k( o! A3 ~' C5 Q, y! e

6 M! T" |+ m: u5 Z1 I6 L" LBilly Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane+ ^- b! {6 `$ W) v' \
Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?"% O! s' n8 l% x+ f
(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11).
. A) G* m4 b& F, o3 T葛理翰牧師的女兒接受Jane Clayson 的訪問,被問到:' x7 o" ~0 w% m8 t9 u5 Q
上帝怎能允許這樣的事情(指911攻擊事件)發生?+ a- e( @6 b. }, v) g- s
她回答得十分恰當且深具洞見。她說:
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) q1 k& s# t2 J' i7 `5 M: nAnne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response.
. `3 V  _+ {1 {2 U" I/ q" UShe said, "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are,7 b) Z5 Y% R( w
but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools,
/ C% S1 `; r% z) u0 v8 Qto get out of our government and to get out of our lives.# m: ^; ]  V6 [4 m1 z: ^1 i* i
And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out.% ^2 y$ _$ k5 {6 j  t* A& r: R
How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection$ g/ x' j! x! X9 w# b
if we demand He leave us alone?"% ~8 q% h2 T% \( L2 ~0 v6 [! ]; s
『我個人相信上帝對這件事和我們一樣非常傷心;( }4 h8 |9 b+ c# f0 o& c3 \
只是,這麼多年來,我們一直叫上帝不要管我們的學校,
; i2 h  g6 |  W" P  H8 q不要管我們的政府,以及我們的生活。
" P% T& e4 @( f  Q; O上帝是正人君子,我相信他就靜靜地站到一旁。  q) Z/ c; m# [5 O0 N9 J
我們既然強令祂遠離我們,' C5 T9 V" C; L' G. b  a
又如何能期待祂保護我們並且賜福我們呢?』$ C1 l' k1 _  z3 n; x- N% o  N
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In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc.
7 W- h; p0 o) L4 fI think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered,
  Q0 y# ^1 a# G% W. r& i- Bher body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our6 V! ^8 A6 h6 X3 K
schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in
* m7 q0 z) |, f# f( L( Pschool...
9 ^  ?/ e  O5 k7 ]2 c2 e- Y% T7 Nthe Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal,
* j- }7 a5 V6 Q/ q# i$ aand love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK.$ y, S! |7 O: x3 W$ D8 m1 J
看看最近發生的事情,包括恐怖攻擊、校園槍擊等等,
9 d* D5 t$ n- ?我認為事情最早開始於 Madeleine Murray O'Hare女士
8 p8 q* t4 z; [0 H# f% d(她被殺害,屍體最近被發現)。她埋怨校園裡的禱告,她不想要校園裡有禱告,大家答應了。然後有人說,* O' G- c  [( f8 K5 d& t" A$ t
最好不要在學校裡讀聖經,因為聖經說不可殺人、不可偷盜、
7 G5 z+ Y3 j: l  m* c7 O- O/ U2 q要愛鄰舍如同愛你自己,而大家答應了。
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Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children
+ g9 T5 c( k" T6 H3 z' awhen they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped  Q- Z0 ]6 J% l( w
and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed
+ L$ r  N5 {$ i3 V- }suicide)' i, `# Z; X# [
We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK.
, P+ D+ i8 H/ V- g然後Benjamin Spock博士說,) c5 L$ G7 q' O* x( g6 s- c' `3 ?6 @
我們的兒女做錯事的時候不應該責打他們,- i" ?4 g2 `/ C: o2 w' [4 H
以免他們幼小的人格受到損傷,恐怕傷害他們的自尊$ W5 D" ?& W) @9 W  B, g# F0 R! z
( Spock的兒子是自殺死的),而大家同意了。
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; p% u; b: k" ]Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our- V, W8 m' \6 }; e/ s4 q0 N# D$ o
children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member! Y( ]/ k8 G% k. k5 m6 z6 d
in this school better touch a student when they misbehave0 Q' g, |7 m/ X
because we don 't want any bad publicity,/ o7 f1 j6 n2 b
and we surely don't want to be sued (there' s a big difference9 ]; p$ z( I6 e+ |* A. \' }
between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking,2 y5 U  j( [4 b5 a" f6 k
etc.). And we said OK.
' l$ v- ~& R9 v, T" k% X$ f然後有人說,我們的兒女在學校做錯事的時候,
6 R' e1 Q1 d/ x老師和校長最好不要管教他們。學校行政人員說,
, h8 T0 }; g$ ?- U3 x9 n1 [教職員不可以碰做錯事的學生,因為不想事情鬧開,
, U& t& ^/ C; v. ~/ L* x+ _$ A更不想挨告(管教和碰觸、打、摑、踢、侮辱等,有很大的差別),8 f: Q, \+ G1 y9 `
而大家同意了。
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; [! C1 l) [" d3 c, W4 [1 L( iThen someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want,, C( q! X% @  \7 T! q) I" R: n
and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK.
$ k0 o7 t) U. ~1 |Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys! n8 N2 ~6 W8 J& k. @
and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms
; ?4 w/ L) _% X( Sthey want so they can have all the fun they desire,/ {2 m+ c: w: _! [, h6 Y
and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we
5 w& ?6 G% e. ]" s- U' Esaid OK.  b! O0 D( L0 ^+ h# v3 G# y! |
然後有人說,讓我們同意我們的女兒墮胎,
' O, Q/ x$ ?: Q6 O- B* N甚至她們可以不必告知父母,而我們同意了。
. J7 S2 B: s  L7 _- u, h然後有一些聰明的學校委員會成員說,因為男孩終歸是男孩,, i2 Y9 g, u1 Y+ z+ r4 N
他們早晚會做那件事,給他們保險套吧,要多少給多少,: E. `5 @8 w! @1 [- L' v, ~
好讓他們盡興,並且我們不必讓他們的父母知道
: ^. Z8 Y1 }8 Z5 r他們從學校拿到保險套,而大家同意了。
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8 u7 }/ e# J* K0 e- kThen some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter0 ?' v  }! X+ a0 f9 N0 @
what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them," |( R4 f5 x0 O; ]  N/ l
we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President,
) X2 g( K+ l4 x! i" W. c2 Hdoes in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good.0 _* w+ b+ B: Q
然後有一些我們選出來的高級官員說,我們私底下做什麼沒關係,
" U: c) W$ ?* m% v+ M只要我們做好份內的工作。我們同意他們這樣說,我們也說,
' ^: r9 ^8 [& `% k- ~任何人,包括總統,私底下做什麼沒關係, < r o l i a. n e t >
0 b& p( N1 s! }( [% `: ?只要我有工作而且經濟看好。
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& ~8 c, v" J; V' @  E; ZThen someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women
# h: h; z% F. X& D- T9 S6 c( G6 land call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty
% Q" v: b" j* D& a6 O1 V2 qof the female body. And we said OK.
  e. J, [9 n2 |3 Z1 B! o( D9 p然後有人說,讓我們編印有裸女照片的雜誌,' f2 b. z1 C7 U4 d. v7 D
稱之為對女性胴體的健康的、務實的欣賞,而大家同意了。0 L& P6 V9 @) [8 Z8 R

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; H2 H3 {! ]& ], k6 h, L: P5 LAnd then someone else took that appreciation a step further and
% U  O4 ]5 c0 v6 q( {published pictures of nude children and then further again0 {4 @9 w+ i) }. \4 b) A8 v6 Y% p+ ~
by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK,) U- s5 y! N! ?7 u1 ?
they're entitled to free speech.
& W8 b2 f( |/ I) Y然後有一些人更進一步地印製兒童的裸體照,+ o( u: y& X, g
甚至在網際網路流通這些照片,而大家同意地說,
4 L* Y& ?' s/ w6 Z3 q1 {他們這樣做是言論自由。
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Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies" e1 O! F5 Y+ ]# \) t+ z9 v7 j- P
that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music
# \3 ~2 N; h. J/ l7 [8 W, c) E! `that encourages rape,drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes.
1 W* a- @" d9 e7 |( ]# u3 C8 n% XAnd we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect,
4 B. B9 v  n8 n* nnobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead.
' n3 {) \5 q! ?! x然後娛樂業者說,讓我們製作充滿血腥、暴力、: S. [. D7 G. [/ K* U
不正當的性行為的電視節目和電影;讓我們錄製鼓勵強姦、嗑藥、
. Q0 T1 T7 A- [7 t謿ⅰ⒆詺ⅰ⒑托讗旱闹黝}的音樂,而我們說:  l: J( q# N) H- X* j  R3 J( x
那只是娛樂,不會有不利的影響,不會有人當真,盡管做吧。
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' m' E& b7 U, ~3 G9 KNow we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience,
. \# w% T) x. |* swhy they don't know right from wrong, and why it does not bother them* v3 ^/ v4 I2 K# h3 b7 \! k% |
to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably,# V! S; x7 j# q6 V5 A6 X! f7 u
if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out.3 o' `3 j' S$ T
I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW."
- _& \* H) j* W如今我們問說,為什麼我們的兒女沒有良心?% M8 A8 o6 B1 ^* H1 Q* V/ d
為什麼他們不能分辨對錯?4 G1 P4 v! c& C6 X5 {
為什麼他們不以殺害不認識的人、同學、和自己為不安?
: |5 \) F4 U4 Z. \' ~" ]假如我們想得夠久並且夠深的話,可能我們會得到答案。' \9 z! i7 N9 N0 C- P( I, q% }) \0 H
我認為,這正是「種瓜得瓜」。# r& S! v/ v2 [
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Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder
* e4 H2 @8 T5 e, }5 bwhy the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers
( @& [6 ]* M; `say, but question what the Bible says./ J" ^1 M' I# J- t( u( ^
實在好笑,人們棄上帝如弊履,卻苦思何以世界步步下落地獄。
; k* j& F2 C! X9 {* T! v2 [實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
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0 ]) t7 ?' {4 g4 h) M0 X! wFunny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like
' [! J; d9 ^: Mwildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord,! L. p$ X( b$ v# u
people think twice about sharing.
5 h7 q$ t" j/ n0 J% n實在好笑。你可以在網路上轉寄笑話,使它們像原野之火般的蔓延;  W; ], e: `, ~
但是,當你寄出談論上帝的篇章,
" y- x2 D9 m5 O0 o$ L0 J人們卻遲疑要不要轉送出去與人分享。7 w' ?: N7 W+ U" a6 C
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Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely
- c2 T9 C6 u! T) X1 [5 U# D! K6 Dthrough cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed
9 |1 }6 n( z" X4 }in the school and workplace.
6 }5 }6 @  H. g# W實在好笑。猥褻的、粗俗的、不雅的、和淫穢的文章) T. r& ]  [$ S+ g
透過電腦通路無阻礙地流傳;
! ^5 ]/ ?" v8 M8 F* Y% c. k. X7 Q而學校和工作場合卻禁止人公開討論上帝。
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Are you laughing?
+ a5 |+ B. Z& f7 M8 ]你笑了嗎?& ^* w. M7 A% X- z; j( z

4 {: R1 Z6 z7 U. H! `4 Z  U$ EFunny how when you forward this message, you will not send it8 h5 ?6 c, A( e2 L- z" ~  @/ _3 ?! O
to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe," `$ |2 ]! C# t6 m
or what they WILL think of you for sending it.
' z- G/ p+ T+ P5 T" K$ iFunny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us
( I- A; n9 U/ ~( r( y% i" _) K- Athan what God thinks of us.
) Z) }* J/ ~# A' j- ^( h. s% Z& s4 @好玩的是,你沒有轉寄這篇給你通訊錄上所有的朋友,
& B% V. [# V% z; G7 B; w5 \/ C2 Q因為你不確定其中一些人所信的是什麼,
( o! v, U5 E' [& j% m0 N' S或者你不確定他們會怎麼猜想你為什麼寄給他們。
5 I! ~; F# V$ k, Q7 v7 F5 @7 A可笑的是,我們時常擔心別人怎麼看待我們,
% b7 U2 O9 L* d% H8 U, F* [: q而比較少擔心上帝怎樣看我們。7 \% q+ X, l# f+ {  A

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% O7 t: I+ I4 f# R* T7 ^/ `$ DPass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it...
) d" v5 e. d# g7 \: o2 }no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process,don't
' C3 Q) S; G6 [6 Ksit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in!7 k/ _, e% W9 ?! i9 P
把這篇轉出去,假如你認為它言之有理的話9 d0 A" ~; T. d3 S0 {# b% g
若不然,你可以置之不理,因為沒人會知道你如何做,
2 ]- A, Y$ m) [+ e* t/ U7 p但是,你若不理會這個思考的過程,
1 G0 S* _$ ^( Y你就不可以坐在旁邊埋怨這個世界情況糟糕。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2006-11-23 23:15 | 显示全部楼层
自己顶一下
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 00:57 | 显示全部楼层
楼主不厚道,自己抢沙发.
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4 t' t: X6 q# m" K; ]& p0 `% a. D上帝先允许我们远离他,我们再允许社会变得如此败坏,这叫上梁不正下梁歪.
大型搬家
鲜花(3) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-24 02:01 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队 追求完美
80%同意你,即人离开上帝是人败坏的开始。% ^% w- M. \: g
  May God bless you!
鲜花(0) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2006-11-25 20:29 | 显示全部楼层
顶顶顶
- h2 E% e3 @0 p4 p$ Q' d3 q有道理啊。
鲜花(193) 鸡蛋(0)
发表于 2010-6-10 14:12 | 显示全部楼层
人世间的一切,都是上帝预先安排的。上帝为什么这样安排,天机不可泄露。
鲜花(4348) 鸡蛋(18)
 楼主| 发表于 2010-6-10 21:30 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
實在好笑,我們相信報紙所說的,卻質疑聖經所記載的。
9 n8 ^* J$ @$ d+ p" x. }7 d这么老的帖子都顶起来了。
鲜花(6) 鸡蛋(1)
发表于 2010-6-10 21:51 | 显示全部楼层
这就实在有些不厚道了
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所有的宗教必须都引人向善,最起码表面上要讲究道德,不然不就成了XX了嘛。教导人们向善,可不是上帝独此一家的招牌,释儒道谁也没有提倡杀人放火阿。
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社会道德败坏了,是人们自己不要好;路不闭户,道不拾遗了,是大家自己修身养性了,都不关上帝什么事。做得好了不是他的功劳,做的差了也不是他的罪过。
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