请教云山水月或者蛇王 Ha ling Peak

billzhao

ha ling peak翻译成海林峰吗？从老云的帖子里面看时这样的，但是为什么不是哈灵峰呢？
& Y$ w. i; H# ^( b
另外，有没有资料能够证明这个人的原名叫什么？肯定他的姓不是ha 或者 海吧？

' h) v/ [- W8 [& q6 F/ E1 n+ ogoogle上找了半天无解，所以上来请教。

FrankSoccer

I have no idea to your question. Here are some pictures and more inforamtion.   ~4 h: ?! I  d9 K  @ - d7 W4 @) M4 O' @ 5 n7 [! Z3 ]. B( \" mHa Ling Peak                                                                 2408m (7900ft.)                                        Located in the Bow River Valley; a peak at the northwest end of Mount Lawrence Grassi; southeast buttress of White Man Gap. Kananaskis Park, Alberta ! f: l: G  I) |& q                                                        Latitude 51; 03; 30 Longitude 115; 24; 00, Topo map 82O/03                                                                                                                 Panorama viewpoint: Harvie Heights. Can be seen from Highways 1 and 742                                                                                                                                                                                 Named in 1998. Ha Ling: (A railway worker who won a bet in the Canmore area by climbing the peak and returning to the Bow Valley in five and one half hours.) Official name. Other names Chinaman's Peak; The Beehive; # m8 g8 c* v6 u  s5 a% s) [                                        ' R% I) \4 u1 l& M  J9 s2 ]) e	Photo: The summit of Mount Lawrence Grassi (left) and Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A just west of the Park Gates & p  b0 e+ O( a  t/ u  ?+ z                                                                More photos
Other Information - j- \( O/ s$ t! X) ?; O' w                                                                                                                                        Photo: Ha Ling Peak from Highway #1A near Canmore ' q; S% d+ W8 C% |7 A# w- e/ ?                                                                                                                Together with Ship's Prow[url=], Ha Ling Peak is a named high point on the more massive[/url]Mount Lawrence Grassi[url=](Ehagay Nakoda) that lies between[/url]The Three Sisters[url=]and[/url]Mount Rundle[url=]. This mountain was formerly officially named Chinaman's Peak. Although not made official until 1980, the mountain was named in 1886 in honour of Ha Ling, a Chinese cook at a mining camp. According to the Medicine Hat News of October 24, 1896, the previous weekend had seen a feat of remarkable mountain climbing near the town of Canmore.  In the “Canmore Cullings” column in that issue, it was reported that Ha Ling, a cook from China who worked at the mining camps, won a fifty-dollar bet. He bet some of his co-workers that he could climb to the top of the peak, plant a flag, and return to the town in ten hours. Not only did he accomplish the task he did it in five and a half hours. Following pressure from the Chinese Community, the name was removed in 1997 and officially renamed Ha Ling Peak the following year. ( {% A9 g# t* v; n# [; f4 {+ t9 |5 Y : S; q! v/ _7 ~- R" @& W( KHowever this may not be the end of the story. Writing in the October 4th issue of the Banff newspaper, Lorraine Widmer-Carson reported that Brian Dawson's book, "Moon Cakes in Gold Country -From China to the Canadian Plains," tells a different tale but one that still involves a Chinese cook and the bet. According to Dawson, it wasn't Ha Ling but Lee Poon (a cook at the Oskaloosa Hotel) who climbed the mountain and the bet was for $10. 1 E5 e8 {( G2 b1 @ : ~- C& |$ p+ o: _Both stories involve a Chinese individual who was a cook and who climbed the mountain to win a bet. But what should the name of the mountain be? * f/ f6 M6 `# X: R7 i2 u, j. ^ 8 w( T4 D( |) G" u[/url][url=]*A hiking route to the summit is described in Gillean Daffern’s[/url]Kananaskis Country Trail Guide Volume 1.
Scrambling Routes                                        An easy ascent via southwest slopes. Overlooking Canmore, this ascent is short, simple and, since trail improvements, much less steep. It is a favourite pilgrimage of locals; paragliders sometimes use it as a launch when the wind cooperates. A higher adjacent summit (2685 m) to the southeast, now called Mount Lawrence Grassi, may also be reached if you're good at routefinding. Ha Ling Peak is a popular season starter and should pose no problem from mid-May on Kane, Scrambles in the Canadian Rockies page 81

billzhao

谢谢frank，这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧，听说是个很Popular的hiking trail，同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。

FrankSoccer

It is said to be the best trail in Canada.

kingsnake

6 j' e# g9 U+ e9 Q6 C5 A7 ~
' l: @  \7 @5 P, H! z' c2 @這個源出於 當年有個叫 淩海的中國 鐵路小伙子，在 5 小時 30 分内，打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
之前，因為不知道他的名字，又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.

billzhao

這個源出於 當年有個叫 林海的中國 鐵路小伙子，在 5 小時 30 分内，打賭地完成了爬上了這座高山又下來的。
& a5 A1 M! Y; h& h; O+ ]5 e之前，因為不知道他的名字，又叫做  Chinaman's Peak.
kingsnake 发表于 2011-10-3 10:29

除了云山水月的帖子里面提到他的名字叫林海之外，还有其他来源吗？
) S1 t8 a( ], K那么，Ha ling 姓林名海？
中文翻译成叫林海峰，海林峰，哈灵峰？

另外广东话把lin读成ling，hai读成ha？
% ]6 {$ H% @( o
多谢！

放风儿

" V- ^3 c' F" C# L! P3 M' R( b! O8 t

谢谢frank，这些资料不错。什么时候去爬一爬吧，听说是个很Popular的hiking trail，同时也纪念一下这些为太平洋铁路做出杰出贡献的华人劳工。
billzhao 发表于 2011-10-3 11:09

( u2 u0 _9 ]! d0 V实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路，首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时，现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路，但是属于很容易的入门级。我谁虽没爬过haling peak，但爬过旁边的Mount Lawrence Grassi，所以知道此山不算难。

billzhao

凌海吗？

billzhao

实际上haling peak是一个入门级的scrambling 线路，首登是个老华裔铁路工因打赌登上去的。那时候他用时5小时，现在相信很多人都可以快得多。另外虽说是scrambling线路，但是属于很容易的入门级。
放风儿 发表于 2011-10-3 10:39

+ A9 s( y  I  N& A( A; A' L6 p* q( I
* l, [. t  A. U) i4 K5 c# H入门级更好了，

billzhao

云山水月

1886年的时候，加拿大的华人，遑论中文原名，能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧！
) j3 Y& E* O2 `3 J
他们没有政治地位，没有经济地位，他们只是劳工，如同奴隶一般的劳工。
. r" n6 z) ~  M- b6 N2 d& Z
+ k1 A  k( d/ G) N' v# T1 U- LHa Ling Peak，很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的，还有海莲峰的，这就差得比较远。我不会广东话，所以只好猜测这个Ha，其实是姓“夏”，Ling，可能就是“岭”，或者“灵”“陵”“翎”，这个就无从判断了。
) n$ C1 g: s1 W% l& N: h
8 N9 G  X2 \" T" O( T7 J如果一定要翻，我宁愿翻作“夏灵峰”，听着比较顺口。

' X+ {0 n# v0 q9 S4 y+ Z你这个问题，或者马健威会有标准答案吧！呵呵。

billzhao

1886年的时候，加拿大的华人，遑论中文原名，能留下英文的名字已经算是奇迹了吧！

他们没有政治地位，没有经济地位，他们只是劳工，如同奴隶一般的劳工。

Ha Ling Peak，很多人就叫做哈灵峰。也有翻作海岭峰的 ...
云山水月 发表于 2011-10-3 23:22

$ m, l: t5 H/ P# |! T- [8 ]2 C
謝謝，有道理。確實留下英文名字已經不錯了，只是好奇而已。

; ^7 n$ T& w4 q- S. v, p4 }在找到真名之前，先叫他夏靈吧。