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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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8 e; ?2 V& U- c7 g0 STD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. " X5 [0 ?$ V; W. V
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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1 t; ^! R8 R! e: T# ]% @: I"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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' C& H% f9 s2 l' r  K( h: L, x' HTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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2 d. e3 B5 j6 Z" X" E1 J8 rTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ @- e  c5 a, Q: r' l- Q/ s3 H

0 _$ J9 S3 i' g9 @+ B1 A* _Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. . F! }! U( \0 a& G; u( O

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,+ I' ^( _, C9 y: ?3 Q

4 T# m; |1 ~4 o' N, H! A: Z2 v) H[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。$ K3 n6 ?" I* v0 _1 q, a% O2 C
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。4 b: N; `1 f8 _9 n5 |
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 , z" r5 i; k( K7 }5 J4 W
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to  w) @6 l0 m0 C& [4 g' o; T" X
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" F0 J) O3 x( U8 x, [
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided+ B. N8 e4 g. K: |; J( |7 l
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
# S9 Q- B8 C: n/ Ethe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and. h) [7 p7 s' ?1 q* F' A3 a6 b
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous" x& D8 j8 `) Q! D) Y8 @. a. H5 A
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
& O7 h$ G" r, m- |3 R; r$ xprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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8 a, i2 }  g9 h3 H( f# fprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this; D$ o2 l3 S) ^
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
- l* \( W7 t  ~( G! R4 fEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
! C$ Q. ?# {5 t$ W4 }1 Xhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
$ A$ z; i7 X2 g5 Q2 ?& K5 {4 D( Wduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta. B$ ?, |: K& t5 b$ }
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging+ \6 [) o% m. w& W3 X4 t% ]1 \( p
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive0 p0 ]% E  S' ]2 a' y
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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2 F: N2 F1 J! x3 `9 r  Lunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7478 ~) ^; ?0 ?1 h& A5 d( h
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest" _# e/ V( g7 D1 F9 m0 P( G* j
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the( G: [* q! Y" }) \; W9 g
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s* H, _$ b+ j  u$ ^/ v# T# j
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.( `1 B- f+ D' ]
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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( _( m  p* D* z* _Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners' q# h  i! `2 p
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.: X* {  Y* K: G9 h% h3 I
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average, k6 O" U$ E: |8 H3 J- u1 G
resale price in February is evidence that past prices% L9 `) t( Y' Y0 T4 J% o
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove2 T+ J5 G6 c& G& T6 h
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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8 x5 e2 b7 q7 dAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
  T$ u8 k7 s+ {% Z7 N8 I5 Rleg down over 2009.7 z- _4 O- S/ Q+ j" X, X( `$ @! P

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,( Z( ^/ p/ a; w* T& U  J
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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0 E6 B) W& w, R4 Q" Y" r1 R[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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