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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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7 m9 ~+ f: E) s; B) {The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 0 X3 F6 R% Q- ^9 i. L# T& D: n
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.4 f( o$ [1 t7 {% S' i, i

5 E- T8 }5 T( a( m- P- dTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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5 V1 |4 L" s0 I/ N+ T+ A  m* l! `"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 8 o: x! s* A$ Q) a6 _

6 Z8 @- V5 d7 L* YTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.: [+ V: V' T) s
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. # G' ^$ y. V' N* z4 D5 ?& |8 y

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,2 Q0 F9 O' b2 k$ F9 b+ x

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。! v$ O& _" b4 T( G% V
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ( ~0 q+ y" R, r: V
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton$ n- U7 K. n9 Q5 U% o, i
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to$ C4 e# v# N; a, o8 e, |4 v
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household& _. @+ X' L9 }5 O- G4 F
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided5 D" v2 g& T# A( }
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
7 v$ r. [# c  Fthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and7 X4 d# i/ `" ^) V: n$ m
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
, N# F: F, Z3 L3 w. W: x% w2 Xpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed5 L0 a) d1 W; I# P. u) u
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined2 y& f7 ]. @1 y  Q; g, @; n
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
  h) ^8 a' R2 }prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 N5 O; b$ }6 }7 c; N- F4 f/ F
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,! @7 z0 n  v! i( Y0 a
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
6 u! a, z2 e% Q) h: v30,000 new households will form in the province during
/ W1 {- [' ~% @- C! h+ l4 s2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.- d2 n; R4 E: M. H3 Q- r$ d9 `
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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: P! ^/ @# y' c/ M' p' }households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals7 R  `3 m* E3 M6 @( r: P& ]$ W
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging% B1 C; H. o2 Q/ g) q
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
  Y% ?3 k, C: |0 {2 z$ y1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
  \' l9 D, i$ f* E/ Q8 Tsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
+ @: e  @3 b. ?! R5 o$ pbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747  C8 B3 @: U+ L8 Q& T6 Y1 Q
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest& W( \$ h4 C# q
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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  R* k% j6 ?7 |, Y" Umajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories  M# X7 g7 u8 J2 ~# t" C
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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* j: J$ s( U9 n7 J" HAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
9 d% o$ N( K6 |( q' {5 CThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
4 v% v; v3 e5 nresale price in February is evidence that past prices0 P0 c1 f; q+ T8 E: \& {
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
$ K* o! e; `8 Q- F" u3 g- S; j0 vhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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$ d$ ]5 P/ ]( Y( d. f! k9 xAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%1 J1 d# f- [7 b% |. }
leg down over 2009.# G# c. N# ~0 t/ k
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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