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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.% L6 U3 h3 F" Q( M
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. " r1 s( H, z2 r# [4 K3 b
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. / c) v) P' K7 t  V
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. % W$ f, Y0 K5 \3 W9 ?, e

9 q; f  Y7 Q8 i, Y: |8 g8 U' KNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.( Q9 i2 r6 e9 N$ l: m
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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3 u8 O- v. _2 T$ e5 gTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ C+ U& a9 V! b5 |
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 9 U3 K; {: e3 G  o+ J* M! B; w

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。0 U: b/ `, h2 l$ q9 G
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 # U$ p, |, c: ~+ R
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了9 h2 N$ l) V0 I
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
3 @' A% X. [& ?5 w3 q+ t% |Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its2 R& W* F1 n2 |, Q1 V" ]" A
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton" ?" ~6 M2 Q' p- e. x
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
' T4 P, v+ }) ?5 U( I6 _2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household0 o5 e. C, q2 J
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
9 }; L3 X: \* t. }5 a: {. a( ^# |from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,* p8 I4 i4 @% ^& U) E3 e, h7 j
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
, L$ {* Q+ ]  }$ f$ cmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous7 p& z6 m! W6 n: X+ Q
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
( U' L& l+ u+ l! T+ r( g- C. u3 k  rprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
8 e3 U, Y$ Z$ y$ O9 v. f& H. Vto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
1 \9 U0 r- T6 `  Cprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this+ t: e8 ]7 G) m+ ?2 y8 l5 W2 j
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
$ b& ~- ~; }% G8 _3 whomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around" Y5 k2 e' L, n# X. g
30,000 new households will form in the province during
, W/ |1 L7 R. R( y" Q# f2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
# t( K# w: f; I! a: aEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s2 Y0 Q# @" s7 a4 |
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%5 x0 l/ D: h, R) P
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals6 l" {. K% f" Y7 U4 J
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
: n; Y, A; R7 Q8 m) D+ g0 E: ^sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
! ]% N( ~; Y# B1 H! v- Tclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
+ ~: S& V7 d; U2 [0 u  [# hexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
7 ]) d& @1 V( m( @, z: U5 ?+ _1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
# y( j9 h- j. M* l7 U- i, ssales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
0 F+ z7 l9 {) f& n% _8 K# X1 qresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
9 v" V. l  H0 M8 L4 C8 smajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories/ A% k) x& [# x. y& D1 j
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled4 T5 X( Q# d+ i. M' W
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
! @2 [8 g' `$ ~* h" M: h8 nrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
' ^; j+ R: A& M. }) T( ?prices substantially eroded affordability and, even4 m7 s6 I1 P' K% q4 S0 g9 ^9 w7 g
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
" i9 k$ d: ^: w, R' ]# ?: Kon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
* u7 T% U4 P/ {) v7 AThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average' W& s) X" w( ?) Y/ ]0 y  M
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’, W8 b* K5 V4 |" W
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,6 y( q4 @# ^. d
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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