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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 4 Y! ]: c3 ^1 `2 y/ C' ~. R! `

. q( s' {: z$ g% Y6 e# y+ u  zThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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9 {+ Z4 J( W+ d6 V, h2 q"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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  b6 z# Y/ s6 q1 }2 V% }7 ?Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000./ q$ Y, ~+ [' h8 f' f5 N- ?4 ^# A
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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- T5 ?' p  O* y. z: y0 KTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.8 n0 M! P- H/ v# j6 E

) {3 m2 v1 ^: K- VMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。8 g2 U' O6 b( \( X
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表   z0 L1 l' m! A8 k) X
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

- v9 k4 n- S. H( F$ ?很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
/ Q3 V! [- E& [8 mWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
3 y3 `0 j4 L3 N1 ]/ Z9 `5 Q  Y( Rboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
' K# M% ^1 _' k) x0 f; zare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to$ q4 b) H( b. ]) W7 K- C! ~: [9 W4 |
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household% H2 Q" |. y" r) i# ]) f
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- c: i; ?$ m) l3 p7 ~$ efrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,0 I- f8 [0 o, r
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
$ K1 y7 c/ Y* i+ Qmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous0 _2 A2 d9 T) h4 H3 i0 l* C6 P
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed: a% Z6 r/ N* w9 q8 N
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined( E( E+ q/ S$ ]9 T9 w. |# |
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year/ e( Z+ r( a$ B  D; L
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this% E+ }% G6 ~9 H; A. V
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,4 J1 u" {( a% L3 o& i, P/ u3 c+ i
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around, O! T6 f3 T; @" Y/ M6 x
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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7 G3 c: F- y. Q' T5 ghouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals2 y$ O' h. V9 }+ c/ [6 C
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
8 P* e$ D- A0 E+ p4 r8 ?sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories7 _& I* P$ R/ s8 E. S
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
* B- _% W7 \6 P/ Z. k& wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of8 [7 v% P3 H+ |2 F0 R, U! [
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a4 _* c+ i+ m7 f0 h' W
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive+ `/ ?* Y' e0 Y8 a
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in+ ~! T  Y5 w8 z& X: f5 M$ m
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in6 ^4 d( u' M, F
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
- h: P9 U, C- M' ]2 I; d& Mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled& Z1 U( {! Y1 g) ~, f0 ^% C0 W
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated./ @6 d/ Y- S( n8 L9 J; b
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s" r0 i' K2 Y$ ]  M, B  C1 j9 q
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.8 O& ]9 L( j# x
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 [/ G+ F( h; G* V' O/ G9 `housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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  _+ D% O; O) \% DThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average. |# j6 [* `2 v& q/ W. H# A9 q) J5 ]# z
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’: x( |" ]! S) B
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
6 _6 i- N% I  h6 y) JAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
$ K" E3 p( D* X3 ]0 Z. r5 QAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 0 D* F/ C* m$ v. W0 n
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-10 00:02 | 显示全部楼层
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