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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.0 i/ d0 O7 C& R0 p* J
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 9 T6 K$ P3 X" l; C; ^' W
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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7 q, c' C! h9 m& w5 K1 B! X"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 0 k0 f: P) p% `% x0 z7 I9 K

' V1 e7 R& k4 q' ENow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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  r2 J/ i9 W) [6 e3 r  a. Z/ hTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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, k& F0 b  M* M" \( U) U"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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$ z% I% g' Q4 L8 G+ K% ]Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,: t# E# b: R" @% l: a% [1 @) r) H

; X4 w# x) `, h[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。8 C4 x1 u0 {& @( ]5 F
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。; y+ O! W, X8 b4 X5 D$ s9 b7 k
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
' L  h8 `6 z; w9 O跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了2 z, M9 Z+ Q( K- s
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
' @/ }1 O" w9 x* h- UWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to/ f' _# H! q8 T) |) \8 Q2 n( [- k  q
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
4 ]2 l+ F5 V$ B% y3 h5 u2 iformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided1 D6 r) ?+ E6 j& W- D- N3 J2 J
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,7 f6 A4 ]$ [3 B2 m0 E! y* g; i
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
5 c( B  ^0 I- s1 Gmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous' L) u+ v, m) ~8 [7 K4 F
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed( P/ W9 ?7 m/ H* }0 V; r& V
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined! H* I! R! m: u; ]8 `, r$ Q1 H
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year, t% F0 g' W$ N; s6 E
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around3 x' i7 @( I2 d5 L# s2 I
30,000 new households will form in the province during
3 e* m- |. A4 E7 p9 J$ O1 O2 v. d/ D2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.) O+ `5 F8 ?% R7 z& ~
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
/ E3 Q$ b, i+ M" U$ ~homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%# r0 i* G# r; N
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals$ f5 x& Z2 G3 T. T
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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5 T# _; Y1 J9 g5 ^8 x1 Sclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
7 a0 H. P% P' n# ~5 o: lexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
- t. g7 [' U9 F1 Y2 J1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
3 I7 X  W" F+ \, ssales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive) U/ D* W$ u/ W; R
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
5 a. [4 N# d/ k* r0 k. Y  v8 _" Etwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in3 a9 r9 {* Y7 G+ }
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747: X) [9 @- C/ U. I- A' P# h3 E8 n/ s: H/ f
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest( T  \: ?0 t9 Y; W
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the: @$ _& u0 w) g& m  g
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
3 C  |# X/ |7 p$ J$ W3 N- Xmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- d. S1 o( j2 B# B, H* m
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s5 D: U9 p9 f: B4 _+ q
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.6 d. u2 a5 ]  b
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan/ Q7 h8 j1 t3 y- J
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
3 e# ^9 j6 m2 _7 x2 `( jthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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" V2 f" X, H7 y2 ?2 M6 h5 cThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
# v; a0 ]' U1 a0 s! zresale price in February is evidence that past prices
( y3 k$ ]1 `) f9 r5 I$ f" uexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
( v( N: [' g' I: a; b# XAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,: L+ b& E% o, B' D7 @, A
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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