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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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7 X! x( Q& V/ C- _1 y/ FTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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6 W! ]& `/ Y" A6 J, M9 k# BThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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( g5 T: Z; r" @, \/ o/ U7 d"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 1 L! \8 j! \+ g* N

) ~& {9 R1 W1 _5 rNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.$ M% Z6 b: s. o- @: D

, G) n3 E' Z, ?9 VTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.) q9 M5 J3 s" w

) o' n1 j  `8 q: ]7 ]6 ?"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 3 L, B6 q$ Z; f( x  P6 f

9 n" k7 p3 N! g4 ?/ P8 B( h! ]- MTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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8 n' _6 }; Z' v: u) N2 A! LTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,. j' @  }; P" D+ N3 ^9 F% H2 L' w

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
2 p; L8 N' F! E4 U: r+ D' ] 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 " e' Q% P( [$ ?
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了  U0 K+ f' a: @
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta8 L8 V5 P) \. l2 n5 p  b; u8 X, R
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its* B/ z0 A( i. Q7 k0 f  \
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
5 L8 P/ y) P' \4 J- R6 c/ i4 Ware cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
5 h+ i9 i+ W' J! P7 u' n2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household' X# t$ U+ O" c( V
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
0 N& {) [# g; {from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
$ N6 K$ n  N; k% T/ U; b# Gthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
: v2 N: H( x- c) G1 D0 Z/ Lmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
" ~% J& |+ D9 l0 e) vpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed+ C5 J9 L1 f+ |! s: u& p
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined. [1 M7 r! t  d$ a, A7 R* ?- z
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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30,000 new households will form in the province during
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8 ]9 \2 O4 e$ s, AEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s% S. j# k7 K' `% s* G
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
7 h+ W+ G( L& [  T4 z  v4 J# oduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
( |8 l+ j" _* h2 w( |has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new( `/ i6 Q5 @4 O7 a8 ~1 J2 p
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
0 ~+ ^' {' R8 Z. |5 P8 Mduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging5 c1 x2 i9 r+ n6 i. k  R
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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4 S- b6 s7 V8 H& C' Uexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of9 f2 m2 d/ w4 f, i
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
2 \' m3 k2 Q/ Y! S" @+ B% gsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
6 a4 m$ c" z  m; S# j% \$ Fbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in) A; F3 N1 L+ \& v' O
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
4 d, y8 |. e6 m* g# b! A4 B9 x  |9 |unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 c% D" {' W! G1 C, F: mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s' ]1 M; q9 {! N
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
4 ]$ y: P% }6 mof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
0 Q( f' W1 b, G3 G2 Grapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.! _8 O/ A% w3 X( @9 i+ V; D
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
8 w0 _7 \# q1 X# Uboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
+ I: h% K" R% u0 l1 \- l( EAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan# L" V# Z3 r9 i8 K' ^( O
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced" C1 V/ u" I- U
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale/ Y) n( K6 @) t: L4 v2 I
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
  M6 P4 d' U/ _$ ^though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
5 K' |1 R  k: ]' _  d8 O  Yon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.0 Q/ v, {$ ^* @8 A# v2 b/ i
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average" C4 }* [- n! m7 \# x3 x5 {
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
/ J* C0 o0 |7 A2 I7 f7 m6 Mexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove, Z, ~' K$ M0 v# P- r: d' D
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’; T2 [( M" L' V5 f& o
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,1 X( |' R% U8 K7 E; p3 J% ?
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,( \; U2 n5 Z- h) Q  `( g) i
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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