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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 0 W# z/ [2 S* x6 v2 u0 \. A# \: T

3 ?+ Z' q+ {$ k3 a  _# m. sThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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5 C* ?  U3 a# [; C2 u"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. / R4 ^' Z$ X# t( g! k! [4 h
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.6 p2 Z0 o  D: ?: w- y
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.% K2 r, W/ f7 [& s8 M# ]

$ o1 V  i9 P; X$ l8 @& [" b"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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% _" r  }% N6 W% A- k; FTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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. r" h& J1 e. ?9 U/ pMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. / F# h! d' p) t

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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0 ^6 K, _3 |- C" p# BTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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0 F2 E- Z" Y* Y) }  Y/ X[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
7 t$ X6 Q: x3 K/ }3 v7 c, y 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。) c4 I  ~  k6 F5 W
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 # V' p4 p( }+ B! D, U: a! e
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

8 R5 ^, P% p& N% Y$ R9 f  x很多人都回学校深造去了5 b+ s  t2 l/ C& L+ O
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
6 @. v1 S! n+ M" t0 Y7 A2 @4 PWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its3 l  H/ {' {/ F
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton! R7 o) R; T, J1 a
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to0 y1 c% A  Y; M0 _/ K
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
5 K4 i7 h( O# x& F: a* aformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided3 G0 x% g( r! T$ ?, T
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,: S, q6 d1 Y. |
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and, i, N' ?# w) ]6 `  L; j
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous' t% c& @" D7 y8 h( y3 B
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
) L: b# d1 ?' F2 z4 v" F0 Mprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined0 F3 G, k8 g- h# S9 K; }( z
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
6 y$ u9 I+ b( O& m9 R7 n6 l% gprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this( E+ s: C3 ~/ O& ~3 r: L
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
- [5 z2 C/ [% T# J; rhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around; ^* K. |7 P  n! U$ {! a+ @
30,000 new households will form in the province during
" f4 w) @" }2 D8 i; r! H: ~2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
' \  s5 Y5 _$ t3 g/ X9 VEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
: U! P/ ?. E! w% m6 W1 Jhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new. M# J) N; ?) x: d
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of( {4 g6 ?. k) j1 i, j
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
; Q& u8 ?1 X( J7 v, T1 wsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
8 H# v5 m, f6 N8 ^2 i+ Jbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
! O8 f+ _  v4 U7 ktwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
3 p" U( x. |0 @unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
' t+ D- Z+ g0 n. I2 r$ i9 zresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s" r; V1 a0 G* q- d4 H
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.$ q) Y/ F: \" N4 y$ P8 e
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
0 ~4 k  Y' k# O" r5 j4 Wprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
- |3 y* i  y& j% CThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average$ N: \9 y, Y; K/ d% |
resale price in February is evidence that past prices' t! }4 Q3 B* J
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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% y0 D* w4 S0 H[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ( H1 l. L1 j' o  e/ @0 `5 i" L8 N3 i
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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' x7 ^- t6 _2 N& I" mhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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