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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.) T9 E# S( V' D$ a0 |

' b+ s8 o, d% O0 ]; U- \0 tTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.   D" S4 w7 y2 t3 M3 S7 v
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ( k! X1 e; {+ H& ^' n2 ~% u0 J

! N  n1 X' ?. NNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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2 P& f" J1 C/ Y$ TTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  K3 i* _9 @( S( S

( q0 K2 v2 I4 T, b7 G"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ) W! a, M8 ]  f$ G  k6 t* ?3 h' T

- v4 k  l; a' W+ J. vTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 G! k8 D: \3 ~* F; @( e
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. / l' ~: ?1 k  v: P* K$ A
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,: p" x" O- k- P1 |

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。  N" b) l0 W, e0 r; C% \
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 # d4 y9 V0 T2 }
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
6 v8 u4 s' j/ b8 q7 v' A嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
" \/ \0 ]( ]3 r8 ^; J$ KWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
0 r8 {( j5 D% a3 Tboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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' \& h, a# J: B2 F2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household, w! W7 s$ `; Q  Z: p) {1 H- e, C
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided# a7 ?; ?' \* @* E* Z+ N
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,. r6 k8 `. l: N: E1 Z0 [: G
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
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pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed8 [: c6 C/ t4 `+ d# o4 V2 V
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined5 `9 v# z: \- T& W3 R' J8 _$ \( Q) M
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year5 M5 {3 L0 a) P
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
, @1 ~6 o$ z+ Z  t9 B) yyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
0 ?) D: |" W& g+ E: whomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
  n! ?, M6 \* T: X% v( L30,000 new households will form in the province during* G2 }7 w6 z, W* o* X  @: ]
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
4 B% t& L8 |7 h# D; LEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
' B# H  N' [) ~: Q& i+ \( H9 Whomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%% \4 F- X- s2 B& ]& F* Z
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
& E6 g, P0 n8 chas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new, S4 b, F( ^1 d0 J7 w9 G5 q
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals  ^- b8 Z2 J: P8 f( I1 H
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is3 q2 _" n  u- O0 N0 g; z# X  M
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
3 q( G7 w6 W5 p. ybuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in# L$ X& Z1 @5 P+ \; z8 K" T% s. g/ i
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest' I. O7 y! ^' x0 A) C8 K4 d( z( S/ ~
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
4 V' [" @7 ?: q# a$ ^4 m  uresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
) }# ~: {' ~* F) F9 s( ?) o! J+ Frelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale3 C9 R- ^) g, D( A+ z3 ^* @+ M
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
3 O2 D: ~3 M" J1 i- t9 pthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
) P: r+ p+ Z$ L; |. Hresale price in February is evidence that past prices3 t' u+ Y/ F4 q) h& Q
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove4 L- m8 a- H7 D4 u
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’# q) Z$ D; \2 }) E
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
! W: z* l8 L) M3 ?6 S8 T3 e" n1 Y. wAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,/ L+ [: f# g1 ~1 l0 b
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. / ~7 `- k5 N; X8 a( W
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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