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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. / W* B/ i1 b& n  X

  H6 h- ?- y# W8 g% @9 u+ }The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. " F; a- j% r) w8 G  Y
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 7 Q( q& I/ P" e$ K4 W" t7 T  @

# T( r+ o5 P# u3 M9 d0 i6 B: b( ]/ X& _Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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3 N/ ~4 a4 O6 XTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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- B* x! `6 p  }, v. N% l- }"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. : ]# A( a/ p+ [- z. m: W
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.* @4 R+ g& V/ t$ z/ `6 @

; L6 N8 h* O$ X3 s  B3 N  V1 `Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. " K0 ~: k1 @# G8 Z/ L
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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" b9 B/ G+ U3 RTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,' P6 }6 b1 d) U- E+ F
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
4 u" \! l3 I, b  h0 r- B7 h 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。/ D3 ^% o  F* D# v' H7 n: x6 i: q% Z

) Y( Z! W" ?, S4 \- v4 m3 Y/ h[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
( R! H& Q0 Q3 l- o; E" D6 K跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了& K# K5 p% \5 I+ m& ~7 F( W
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
/ U& t/ L( g( {/ H, yWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its2 \1 v# V: P# V$ I  |3 w
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton* M& |6 S  O. S; o1 ^. a) S% T- C7 [
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
* ~1 P) D+ y" i1 ]2 J% g% @2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
) a7 Y- f2 s2 d% N+ ?% v4 a' qformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided) ~; q( V  q* T+ o/ s& d
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
' L3 c! w1 C* {6 lthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
, m# R3 L5 _; V. Y3 w0 bmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
: K, j+ E! d  |pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed+ c1 {) @* l( [5 t1 v
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined& R* K8 w; C3 P  W3 x
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
# `3 N$ p) T9 ]prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
) s* O( p5 `5 A$ G. ?2 Uyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
( Z* `& X+ a: X& P8 t- K7 Ahomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around, [. |) S) a) x& X1 R5 d# C
30,000 new households will form in the province during
* r$ }5 S. B5 h7 x2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.) D* I; S6 F- j
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s) E+ X0 i$ h$ H3 v+ _/ M, ]3 b8 H0 [
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
, o# i+ b3 x; k  M# Z7 nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
  i' L" m! u" ^has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
8 N- C  G' e5 \& u/ t! a  hhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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; Q- W0 Q$ _7 qsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
: {* t) n" _6 Y2 a$ T  p8 N* q* [clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is9 J8 X* ^- x6 \5 l$ I
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of6 o+ H2 Q9 e# s' W$ e
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a) J) o0 c5 J% c+ {4 ?4 z1 t$ i0 \
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
& U8 n/ y3 ^. gbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in0 l# t6 x) _" Q
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in9 S4 p; z  d3 B' z- A
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747) W9 P# M1 N5 i- j7 G5 b
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
# H+ j4 e! P$ o0 srecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
/ f# o/ b- e0 U' x1 }3 M5 o7 Iresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
* N, ^& @& L+ A% p0 [) Kmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- H" k8 S, f* B9 D1 Q, O
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s0 q$ u% k4 G5 l9 g
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
3 F. [1 M2 h+ C* G; ~9 AAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
: {  ?: e5 D9 |, U% f2 h4 rhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
. c  {$ B- j8 S% j* _relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
7 S9 t$ x6 j/ t+ c7 V$ gprices substantially eroded affordability and, even. l0 P* r/ Y# ~( u( V9 g
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners+ a& R. [  W; E' K, A0 M7 I# \$ p
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
3 O# O& x4 S. x( a! h  JThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
, b; o2 s. ~4 W, X$ O/ ~resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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2 M6 n/ F8 T! X% r: `1 j1 P3 Jhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’, m5 }  t0 x! f; c8 D" v9 [- B
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 L- ]$ f. Q7 u" M. r
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
! L4 g0 R$ W, ~% sAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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; J4 K5 A. R) `+ k/ L: U# v# I[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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