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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 0 `9 S9 `* Y6 L, q  V5 {3 j5 \
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.   q2 i! n6 k4 v! u

3 n' j0 G5 a4 n6 W"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 3 [  m8 j8 ~1 r) u9 p. n

9 B; b9 M+ Q  X7 |7 }; v  FNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.% X7 c) V% D7 a) X7 m
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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0 d& w) r" ]& O0 b" x"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 2 Z( f& f# b8 k6 o5 c) d" i1 B* L
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.6 g( ^+ N; J, p! p" i1 H, T( @
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ( u: }8 q3 U6 r% u3 Z: ?# V

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,8 N- J. j1 M' K1 ]4 d2 G
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。3 Q. L% o3 F7 M5 R7 I7 Y- t9 W5 o" B( L) ~
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 & N' R' R; Z$ \8 L7 P- V
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 {( }+ A' @' V; [+ a" V很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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6 t2 K6 g& G) s2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
: U5 X1 |6 p' z6 i4 U& k4 P( }( }formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided" ^" J$ ~8 n! X' i1 l6 Q# O9 K" D
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
+ t5 k4 Q: v9 [) R. \. R* zthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
6 v1 L: L# h. H9 j* kmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous# Z; b3 _# e& ]( O
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
4 ^) I1 k4 K9 G: q# @precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined! p$ |0 A4 H; B
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year" v' f3 z7 Z( P% C0 i2 g5 H6 {
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this2 |, \- \, c" R$ M! A
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
8 `; I: F* H9 O$ ?6 q2 ^3 q1 Rhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
. j6 @1 M7 Y- ^% w30,000 new households will form in the province during
5 E; J5 t- `; m% ^3 m2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%7 ~; v7 o* M1 B
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  M0 D2 y" Y8 H: t/ c  f
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
9 S& ~, m3 N$ @households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals- Q9 p- u; U: N6 P# s- z
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging8 \+ N: c* g* Z# e- G( S8 T, i
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of( E# M8 R& j) ]& ]
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
+ b( X0 p# r8 F* |0 G. Osales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
+ Q0 e2 r) n3 o; F9 w8 x; Dbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
- z: j" k4 M( v6 s: V" K$ V7 J# Mtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
: _8 B0 z1 w( f: m" W; @& Bunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747% C$ H8 {. ^$ F
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest& H1 U: b- F4 [
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
  w0 d* l) H$ L  A: `resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s8 A* ~' _' L  Y1 a( a0 x! F, K+ E6 a
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories6 j% B( F  I6 Q5 S+ q; f
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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# K1 `) T# Z# |4 K. @1 VAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
1 u) {# k# H5 D2 ^% U2 y: ohousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced2 {  M9 ~% E4 \* D
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.7 t# Z$ ~6 \/ x
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove+ N9 @9 L* Z6 U
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’$ ~% S6 C; O6 H/ l' w
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories," T) H/ p7 d% B  u0 t
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
9 i+ D  T! Y) j3 P/ HAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. " B% M$ |& t5 d- Y% M
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子! |$ I6 X  @  v  `( _% E- n/ J" C

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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