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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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& d/ v% \% ]6 r5 nTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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% n; ]! r9 D5 FThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 6 Y* z8 O+ W+ t
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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, S/ d; {4 [; J  v; ]1 m. F3 B7 F" eTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.$ i& ^3 n* x6 Y6 M
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ' E' |; b+ K! A" p* I7 b# K3 z
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 X* p# B5 {) {1 [( k
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. " c( v# w3 j0 J6 h

% I) A, v8 }" M8 shttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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' W' O* `: Z4 ~9 x! S* PTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,! [# z2 A: d  p& r; x# l1 H0 H- `

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。/ W" b2 _/ k' p
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
( X! @) u/ W0 u; e2 E跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了, j( M1 S. f1 o" _3 y' ^7 K, {. c
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
# e  B, s% q5 OWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
, M' ^: G& N8 s& ?& z& bboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton9 o/ e- b! ^. p) s2 j4 H
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
% T: `  B1 Y, D* d4 F7 x8 K2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household0 s; G* j1 I3 v* K
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided3 G4 `; l8 F% \6 q8 q2 n* n
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
5 h6 p$ z! Q: X2 ?the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
) g( F" S, q5 rmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous# o; `! Y  l/ ?6 V4 [! C5 n
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
* v' A' v; N% ~# w2 R( _precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this8 ^1 e9 W: q0 V6 c, s( _$ e% V
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,0 W2 j4 ]7 D* Y% n& x
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around/ C6 _) K0 O. r5 {$ N. j/ z9 H
30,000 new households will form in the province during. S) p* `; {! v# s1 z/ Y
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
% ~) F% l1 l8 f# |Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( V1 k& K% |1 h
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
* r% ~! `2 G' pduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta, I) j- }# G( W/ J
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
8 t1 Y9 _  P1 T& Uhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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) D+ V  p8 I9 v8 z$ fexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of9 t) _) l1 V- j+ z2 Z, t0 p
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
# e! x6 c% v& @6 v% Jsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive8 V0 d) t& n# d
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
0 M! |3 g2 C& `. u/ p) ctwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
0 _! I8 G+ F4 Q: a! v' uunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747! }+ v( _1 s2 \3 A7 j6 Y* b
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
" S& A: [" v4 r" arecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
  b+ \  l, u6 Z4 h1 f, sresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
# `5 W' l2 M4 a3 {  ]major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories$ P$ k' A6 f. i' c
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled$ @2 B5 `% Y$ J& i  F- \
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
9 D  ^- S8 j& vThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s1 Q1 y+ |6 ?1 K8 ~& y: N5 J
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
. _; H3 m' e. j: \( z& `Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
( n3 ?$ I: `1 d7 Q5 r$ j" Hhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced+ r; ]  M4 M" u' t$ k
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale' ?3 w% E) j' a( m# X; x
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
3 M7 N/ W! V( @( xthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
  _. H9 z& a8 ]9 Mon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
9 i0 i/ s1 }' c4 R7 k; ]The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
/ i& D5 a0 y% |, r% w* Mresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’, p  [% C: I4 {1 F: n
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
5 R6 m6 U" g9 dAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%9 C5 [' A+ ?5 b6 b1 {, c
leg down over 2009.; b  c* L; Y0 l2 U* e

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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