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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. - V* a) {+ R/ T& \* d9 S

# e1 I# E  Z  {9 u, `& }The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. . j1 O% G$ u$ N4 `* \) s& T" f
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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$ V0 O9 z& B& A% CNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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' l! n* {9 E/ ^, g4 G, O"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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6 j( a( e+ ~" q2 X. Y* n1 T# ITD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.0 ?3 {! V& I7 w1 C( Q- \) \& A9 A

* X" b/ `7 r3 ~' z) D& wMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ) C- E2 E( G) g) k
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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2 C* k6 v1 V3 ]2 P6 X; PTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。: E) s' W: [* ^0 q% d+ A& R1 q/ X( _
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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8 i- L( d0 r+ g; c( o[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
% a% l) [2 f& F4 i跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

& q) {# ^* y& `' H$ x! w9 X- e很多人都回学校深造去了
4 P' @! W4 q5 c$ j嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta" S3 B; Y* t% U
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its; ?2 }9 ~" g% G1 |$ W
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household2 }- g4 J$ _# y' {0 `7 k6 c
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- ?" ~; Q* @$ a+ r. p0 v5 Zfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
% m& y6 V7 }. u6 j0 Fthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
+ l8 @# ]% C: @- s2 Cmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
* v& B5 o1 t: `3 Q5 Kpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
* H. E9 \, q/ {. Yprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined6 E& L, {! l& u* ~) W  V
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year4 f5 @0 D# M3 E/ d  G  x
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around( H- u( Z- q* e8 \) H6 Y7 r/ E9 ^
30,000 new households will form in the province during
: F( `( U( P0 R, `8 G& s5 `2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
) `5 G% Z" C% r; A  uEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
/ ?. L2 |0 m* {homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
- I/ u+ m9 T" v/ c! F0 U- z: Yduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
9 J4 b5 _  o2 U/ s+ zhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new: N( B4 L  |( ], R9 L' e; |; f
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
0 [) L, L/ e; [+ o/ Fexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of8 u7 H1 n0 `$ N2 G% U0 @8 C9 T
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a; a! k$ ^& T. P
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
: w0 z% w9 R" a3 C( ^  X) T8 Obuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
! u7 I7 R- g3 q2 q4 Jtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in3 g$ h7 ]( L; j2 A1 G1 O& Y; k# I
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7476 P+ G* s% j' ~$ d1 K5 W6 Z
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
2 J7 D. p0 u' j6 \8 N8 B; yrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
: D/ h; r7 J" |( ]: ^: [1 I5 u! ~resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s/ S+ R1 }1 k: q8 G6 C
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
1 D& ^% h( J  N# V. f9 j4 hThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
& \8 y9 `3 }6 n- L9 ?boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
: S; w( t3 {% U$ X* R  RAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
1 ^# i% |4 o  y, t7 d" A8 L# _housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
# i. ~7 O: S- F0 u* [# u3 |7 ^% ]The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average, E) l- w8 `- N0 j( D3 e5 l* U
resale price in February is evidence that past prices' A  v# l* z& H! ~* s
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,8 w) M" Y4 q# v% x& A- v6 F
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.   y* O. j  W) |3 w  ^4 H
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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1 \4 Z, u! N1 ihttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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