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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 4 c; I. [8 A0 Z; j9 d
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 1 n( F: @' E( v7 c' y. w

5 ?4 H5 R: Z. a3 T/ @/ D0 Z6 d"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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" L# K" _9 m' S7 y0 b" KTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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2 {; ?$ k$ y3 p/ d"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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# i% ?1 t2 }' X- \0 {* jTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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3 e+ c, C# `! y4 J7 p; j8 ?. y0 PMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 4 k7 I1 w$ W1 N/ ?

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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# ]6 B# Q* Y8 A( NTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- f: ?' ?6 E/ w* J

! i- o! R) Q$ d6 T9 m5 e& B9 c5 j[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。& e& Y  s$ A4 |6 y7 U
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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4 t, J# l9 j' s! c( p* f[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
: _' L1 S) s5 z) a; l; H) g5 l+ h跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了5 @1 G# A% [: Q
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
3 Y( m  J; J8 s) M' C! C( {  P5 ^Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its2 {' K, I4 X* }& y
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided1 {% {4 I# N% \7 e6 `% b+ K' q1 v
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
2 j6 q6 t3 k7 q8 Y# ^; ]5 ethe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and$ E1 w) |. V$ C7 X: F/ d  Q# c% D5 a* ^
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
1 |! b5 d: ]* ]2 L  bpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed% h5 N2 f% ]/ a# y$ f
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined4 m3 W4 [9 u( x" r7 o7 D
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year, n# j" I  |/ H, t3 F# L
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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1 F: r; Y5 f5 |* E- {homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around  X# l4 C# ]: i' H
30,000 new households will form in the province during" z& G9 P0 }8 K+ a5 V
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.2 Y# _6 N' y4 B5 L! C. r0 C& n9 A/ O
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s. b6 Y& ~$ D" Z
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
2 `( T/ b0 K- p" ]# Mduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta6 J' p* x# K$ V" r8 n
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new9 }( M4 l0 p% P/ Q. J
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals0 Z5 C/ u/ D" }! b( m( a/ J
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging9 l: s6 j% ]/ {5 Y
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories: ]8 {, \( F, k) ]7 O  r
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is( U2 c7 g+ s% Q7 n% b% v! o
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
8 {9 q+ n- h! Y9 T1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
* \8 M& q4 [4 X1 z8 r- wsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive  V0 Q$ s0 s- x. C, _% |( M
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in) u1 Y4 Q3 Y0 v9 ]/ a6 U
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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, y2 y& c: Y* S" C+ qunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
$ S, V1 `# ~) w/ ]recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the" p' Q4 S9 K" w5 k4 G0 B0 h. H1 e
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s. ~5 ~& ^! C! I# x
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.1 {4 e0 ^6 a- X1 \2 G; S8 M
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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3 f1 G. K( H. I  r  P! y" K$ bAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan' E( J% O+ t* a. ^+ l
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
0 A+ M# n  o0 I; M* ]7 ?# Prelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
8 q6 o# b1 i+ d7 X( cprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
+ G& n' i2 I- P0 d; Z$ y" Ethough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
  f3 X! Y/ s" d, P7 a6 P9 Qon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.0 u' [/ \: A3 j2 ?+ B. ~
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
" H3 {5 u, v0 w$ F+ bresale price in February is evidence that past prices
: m7 K7 Z" \1 _* ?+ c4 Gexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove' m8 [! r7 P& m/ @
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’* E5 e( B' N; o  Y. N7 n
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
" B- t$ X3 u7 N% z# ^Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,: i4 \( E8 l4 \) X- _% ]' X
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
! S; Q5 |# U; v$ J+ b翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments, N/ ^$ s: k# V. G
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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