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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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% ]8 @" g1 d' G  W9 ~TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 4 r4 u+ L% U5 J6 y5 n4 n

9 \, A0 Q5 f- N- c( H& FThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ' p- ?1 ~, k/ c5 ^7 W: j" K, e
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. & I* `, {& h- g, E) e1 r; J) ^# f, E

! s9 `* v1 p6 e4 @Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.4 U$ A/ ^6 {1 L. z+ H, |8 b
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.# h+ z, Y9 X( q5 G2 n8 |; L
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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- Y$ Z$ z( K: L% i, p, NTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.! h# Y1 o/ f# D! [4 k) j% g
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
! D, u% X' w2 s8 P: d 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。2 W9 _0 \" P' a4 b8 B- s9 u

% n, J; `" Y  x' {! ~7 x6 T[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
1 b; G$ e8 w  Z5 [' D1 w! P跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了, P. l8 b- e' }) ~& b7 X. S
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
" h: h) C* Z0 u" U) E+ HWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its4 A2 R8 E8 i3 r, L# O/ }9 T  n$ J6 v
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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, D3 \% t8 K' A2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household, R& x# M' u* `9 E
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided4 T. N( I: A" u3 I0 m2 Q  g
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
5 V" c2 |+ f% o& t7 O0 d' j, ethe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
" f; u; b4 X4 `' x1 Y; bmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
# N  }% s) W8 \: E7 K- w, Dpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed0 r6 _  ?* v  ]# h
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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( {: u- b3 a0 K3 a3 Fprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this1 }, U+ B' t$ R; s
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,6 s$ |% h: A$ v' n
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.( ^3 m1 [: Q" q4 i2 m7 n' ?. c
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s: W3 O& s9 [: f
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%6 o6 p4 Y6 d- y% P, O6 z" t
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
2 ?* y4 L0 e% ^0 @; lhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
( h/ g9 ^- n+ b7 e4 S+ }3 Ohouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
1 s/ z. @6 I) T; i) vbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
; W6 _6 W0 s" d, Q. ~two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in7 m1 D+ [1 N+ V) }* Z
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7476 I. X2 \7 v- S: O
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
, O- d8 s" J0 f5 {$ z8 s8 Drecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
$ \$ M6 ]7 T/ H3 A) O% Rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s$ B% K6 U7 d* q7 p- {* V3 L
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s( `5 ~2 ~# {: T% U' l- `# O5 ~
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.% X/ A' V+ B8 S% f
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan& T8 t) {/ e! b# X8 Z
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
& |2 Q) A0 L; P- a- Z( s" rrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
% U  B7 M& s% H; m" j5 ]prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.; s7 M1 [' B2 p# t* R( A
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average1 t/ v) W8 A5 O
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
3 B1 L/ H# I8 ?- I8 x, e5 fexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
' V7 B) z, D% w( W6 N4 shomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’' I- G2 F/ @' j- L6 d( o0 `
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
2 u" o: _3 Y! F6 J- FAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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* k. \8 q8 v3 G# Rhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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5 C* Y$ f- f7 v7 l! Z[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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