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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.: t) w: _- Q- [; P8 F
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ) S: _  l  D# _2 C. A0 K" w

5 F$ t9 f7 b$ c. m5 S( d# F* O"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.+ s' \, y: ~* `( B2 `
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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: j# q4 f/ W! lMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
. {$ s7 |" _  W1 e4 u 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
* X4 }! }: Z, Z  U6 T* q跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
3 B6 b3 `$ Y2 n7 u+ ?) `嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
: B3 {5 m3 S& [: X$ gWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
4 n# P4 s% I' H  H. p/ ~9 W2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household4 ^! R" k0 J' D& g; m% W! T) e
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
# E5 X/ A& j+ t4 q8 Efrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
$ M" X( E" i7 I$ b& _0 gthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
" \. \2 d) V9 N. r# i, j  g: k* @may even cease completely during 2009. The previous( s; \9 O/ }( ?
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
% _/ g$ T  D! a$ ~2 o6 V' N' i8 mprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined! o+ ^. Y" G$ m" X4 J% B( E! B
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year+ e7 L5 U% ^: T* u, H% u
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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. N/ a% E2 K' H  W! W# u- \2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.7 ~% [' m# w# J& [' ?
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
1 K8 M  e6 \6 L+ @homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new# z! B- B8 y: T, E
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals. C$ Z; d$ R0 C. Q; }
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging, Q! q* q, n6 q2 ~5 l
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories0 y/ Y$ f* h- l
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is7 O' y* a  I4 A! A8 r
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
* |3 e5 |5 y  b( G+ e: b1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
: A1 K9 t: {5 H7 bsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
: {( L' K* M2 D$ f) lbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in1 o, \2 [6 _* g% S' l
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in2 P7 |1 v: l$ |4 ~) _
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
7 L# t3 C2 r- H5 P) Z0 g: w( Vunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest2 c! F" A, P) J! B6 C
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
- A  p0 j7 V7 Y) k1 \$ B" sresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
& v, B- c1 N7 l' s+ E( Cmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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9 a: I+ a" `. j/ g: b( u5 \The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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+ T1 L3 _3 x+ I+ q" H2 [Although income growth was very strong, Albertan" {& I$ ]- s1 ]+ T6 X; `! y
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced- X! w7 [- Q4 p" ?
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
2 m  Z6 }$ B: r" @3 F! `* dprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
; Y, i" q, U6 S& y3 _3 X& wthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
1 l5 {* `0 |8 i, h- I4 _" g( Q) Pon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
& f; n' J# T, t- M: V9 n0 g+ B6 SThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average: }! V, g+ B) G
resale price in February is evidence that past prices4 _- z  T& e# B3 U! Y% U, J
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove# V% m) D: y* i6 U1 q$ X
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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% s7 b0 x5 G+ L( W/ QAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%6 S; ^/ }5 J/ j: \) R  E6 r1 n# q' ~
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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