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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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1 H& _( ?3 I: M' f: bTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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3 [( E  W: g; C1 X/ ?: @, o2 HThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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+ H, k- [  |5 p3 I) L"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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+ t8 q) S/ }. e* V) M5 p  BNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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/ Q6 Y. M( ]5 p$ C, Z0 s9 iTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.  n4 `. }6 I/ R+ V5 {) P; |

( ~9 v& h, h, u1 j" ]Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. . t3 F' |! c5 a1 i- U  W2 \4 e7 V  h
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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2 g& n; [2 P' `TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
5 p5 E  K6 O* X6 s 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。  p- I- ^: j! e& t2 }
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ; h# P2 b! ~3 a( [
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了% g" n7 d( m" _, c
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
; @! e& k' d/ H8 s+ S3 k4 d& {0 VWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its+ r9 Q. n& e, A4 c% t  x; j( @
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton; Y( q2 I8 ?$ u! K- p. h
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
& H/ D1 D+ J# M. U) t2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household2 e8 W0 l+ d6 y
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided: V! f: G! i/ L2 R  C
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
4 r2 {  h3 ]) I1 m, F. dthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
( `  S6 j3 n7 Q' J6 v+ h% Lmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
3 l. M4 a6 u  Y5 J3 W- f2 ~pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed- J2 r2 K% ~5 Z2 W6 B/ X, C" Y; H
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
- B8 v1 @5 C6 Q* c/ fto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year( i' s5 C$ F9 v$ l. G; c$ p3 [
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
0 Q6 Z4 r# u% e2 z8 `( b# Myear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
2 _! H* A& k$ p/ Chomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around1 J6 W9 r- i/ H' k9 @
30,000 new households will form in the province during
! a5 Q+ q+ q$ j* z0 M9 `$ y2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.) j( n+ I% P' a/ U1 U* f' Y' @
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
# w! t& m6 |2 F# B6 G4 V5 ^6 o6 Thomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
3 T) N% }2 a( I: E# i7 T5 r. tduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta7 A; J  w" N. L( d" B2 `4 F
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
, r' C4 m: x% [0 \0 h! P% qhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals6 P: F1 l  k9 X0 P- |4 b
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
$ j7 v0 \$ F* w5 ~1 w1 U& ]sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
7 y) H  a- D0 y) f: F3 |clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is( z% Z9 M0 C6 r
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
8 Y" w# i( \* v/ [' l) ]1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a0 o, y5 C/ \3 j7 R( @, o
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive% u0 `# d3 e3 r: m1 [' ]! U0 |6 F
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in, k. c' j( n. E
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest0 b( d7 Z5 D0 n' F
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
% v0 D  m# S7 U7 ?1 rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
' ^' H( i1 Q/ k4 Pmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories: H5 g9 s& f' Q2 l1 w: @$ Z$ q* C4 ^
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled8 c+ L; G0 C. ]  J/ F  P+ M& @) [
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
( ?6 ]& T( y% G, w4 \5 k- z4 fThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
; O$ }# u9 |7 l2 Y* s  b/ Nboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
; F' b% {$ k  L& H2 fAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan8 M. H5 [7 M' q1 c/ ^  s* Z  ~$ {
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
; P3 R4 x) P0 c) W/ Grelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
( Y3 Z) r7 S1 f; Q( ^prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
/ T% I, e+ e% r1 F+ b4 M* w. Wthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
- P) l' A; n* d) Ron average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
7 W$ P2 U3 ^( ~; C0 `) E  o( gThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
4 y6 D$ h2 S! K/ r$ q$ ?, P8 qresale price in February is evidence that past prices3 z9 z! ?8 F; _. c
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
; C; G/ T2 b8 m3 G+ t. Lhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’/ `" n6 c% M; k5 y% z
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,. t5 v! S% I& d1 U5 R4 y9 Z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%- W/ X$ f( J% X# D
leg down over 2009.; C7 H. e, U/ d

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,- d( v0 c* O& e: I
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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. V/ U7 N/ v1 A/ {/ H[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ' ]5 L2 K% A4 M  L& j& `1 G
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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" Z0 Q) J9 ?: Q* s' m[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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