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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.1 p5 ], e% y- D+ v! K7 H
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 7 r8 i4 x/ y7 @7 I" g6 Y

" J* w- d& _  y) W) p; {1 SThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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5 C+ `9 h0 {9 n7 K, H; ?: K"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ; S' ?: p( s6 ]0 E9 [  [

4 e" c2 m. E- k* {Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.! I) {. p2 R  a" O  r- _+ O' i$ Y0 H

- v' B$ Y! Z$ q4 w6 o% L9 i4 x: ETD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.( g) t2 T6 P* ]) \
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,5 ?) h( \+ }! F! t: [
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
0 v5 F* \3 W1 h/ X7 V# A  c 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。5 p) I7 d* [1 n8 v; E2 E
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
+ V( ]" \/ I* D% |跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 [$ _& }1 Z/ A, }5 |很多人都回学校深造去了
1 L* q! h/ l* E  v4 W( y: z嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
0 P5 n( K& w# O/ J: iWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
( u& |6 V* J  e! {0 |& a, Dboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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/ z2 k( c# e  v9 z0 u6 S2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
6 W5 {$ w/ \$ E+ S  ^: yformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
! F* G, c% \# |" J/ _6 v0 l- s+ dfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,) [5 v0 O0 f' U5 C+ ?" X6 G
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
' x4 ~+ J0 D  h) N* b) L7 p  q& h9 F9 Tmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
3 w; k) |2 m: E( \5 y" ?6 Apace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed. B/ m3 `9 i, ^* {7 _9 ]
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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$ l. S, }3 s, u/ aprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this. H; N. v8 o3 [5 S8 N$ ]* s0 B& O; L
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
. u1 A$ }3 I  q! M2 x. t6 a; Whomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around9 u2 J% N/ P. h: L0 N3 e
30,000 new households will form in the province during
9 c$ v: h2 M5 N) v4 z$ L' C2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
/ i8 x: N' m. o$ uEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s) `+ A3 h( E0 P3 }" l6 \6 M
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%- i* _9 ?0 X5 f) ^# |# B
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
- a% D- J( N. @( qhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
& K8 g& `0 T; f( J8 [households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is% m) k  b2 G8 E/ r# W" q, N
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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; K& x9 _4 ~6 G+ }sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive8 r9 {  y1 k6 D, \( d: N5 d
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; c5 c& j  Z' }. G
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest- G/ T/ s+ M  U" e; O/ y4 u
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the( y4 E: d& k/ h1 @8 J- Z
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s0 C& G6 C$ P" c3 y3 L
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
9 Q  I" J6 q( Y  JThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
  v) x+ a! o+ x% Mboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
$ K! ]3 B4 J1 t7 e+ q$ w& TAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan' I2 A# `: d* W# i
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced; ^8 k1 M0 E% |' b; j
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale0 Z$ B, s8 c4 ~9 s. ^
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
2 a" u% `$ ?% W2 U/ @though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
2 A) L0 N, f% h  l% D! J$ zon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
7 ]4 P/ d0 @( z" e5 Y+ U- HThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average/ D% s1 [7 H0 V. r4 I/ O
resale price in February is evidence that past prices! }; i: Z8 H+ Q0 v+ N; ^
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove; ^9 ~6 G9 ^# b) d; p9 b
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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' x3 e8 P) |& n7 y[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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