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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.; `7 Q+ H2 [8 P% ]- i! d, `
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ! k5 F: {1 e8 B' x, J
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! u3 u) Y' F6 o; t+ \! t
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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: n5 B2 D# V4 wNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.  z. j* U$ |5 W# j# \
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000." W/ k5 f' w, Y
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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  A* Q, l' `9 s* L+ D8 RMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. / @1 A" ]4 ^* |8 l) \- {+ R

# f& D* U( W+ U! b+ H- Whttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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( c( j3 {- y4 I- N& l" nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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3 c" T7 [2 X3 Q9 p[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。# K' N2 Y! h' R# s; h
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。$ N9 e9 F* T7 \$ Y, Q$ D
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 `$ O% S1 S( p0 L( L2 X
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
/ ?/ z6 k3 `! M/ X7 n" }# X+ mWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
. R3 f$ R& j( a1 zboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton5 h9 U3 {/ j7 q0 _) P/ J" ]# D1 x
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
/ Y0 ?3 @5 a3 ?+ N' o$ ?2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
* q2 U: A* d& v* M. C/ E8 cformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
% P& A7 {% y* U! a; C; sfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,9 S& C/ z8 h0 P& s# ]; V  A  `! I* O; x
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
9 P% C: h4 W' s; ], w) omay even cease completely during 2009. The previous+ K" \7 D( Z9 c1 U) ]& g  r
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed+ Y+ D9 }1 i0 g9 c2 T# F7 X7 s& y
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined# `8 F" N! X- [/ A6 u1 e
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
1 W) v( h/ K7 F" ^- W1 @prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.4 k" Y( e8 m7 }) t$ B# M
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
$ c9 y- F. G  O; shomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%) \8 B' i0 I6 ]9 D; N. I0 ^
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals( n3 y% Q* ]4 o
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of0 Z4 x2 P2 Q* u. Z3 J
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
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0 `8 M  G$ G9 Ibuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& E6 G- L0 P) J( T& p2 A
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
* @2 Q) ^/ G6 Y: d5 b% iunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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. W8 u+ v0 `) \9 dof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
/ z2 Q  I5 l0 X$ A7 N  Q* ~+ {rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
- _9 B8 l7 E6 ?) H$ ?% A" lThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan) z& U5 J* F/ Z, o4 H: K- Z
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even+ Z, y: f: e, ?2 A) N) [1 N+ a6 t
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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* q2 z& W. Z( w8 n. n/ n& a3 I! Bhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 0 @$ N; m2 w2 ~7 h: p# u
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子6 T" x  m3 a4 Z, k8 p
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