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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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5 c. A( _: q& w7 V' O. XTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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, p; s( C. j( U* U/ Z4 YThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. , [% z1 H( z% L) l' |% t
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.0 u% S. I" S) \& s2 S
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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) g4 {, M5 j4 fTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.8 c) S) Q+ g% ?' |
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ' d$ n% D3 f5 {; H; P

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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' M8 ?9 ?9 G; J/ tTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。5 {2 U8 c$ l3 a6 v
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。5 Q1 w2 C: |  V1 B
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 R( S2 j' i" p; v) S9 Q: ]% G
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

( ?& P0 c% B# Y1 W& J$ d很多人都回学校深造去了. E5 J5 A  d+ G8 q
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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% G# e0 Q" {4 W5 A: t2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household! ?9 A2 n- Q/ C6 p, q+ G& R: p  j
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
$ G5 h+ S" @! k3 z: ~, Ofrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
4 B/ k; n# y+ T0 ~) J+ B7 [the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and9 y9 F( {' n: s3 U9 B4 ]8 A* \, M
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous) R+ k; P# D4 Y& A0 K
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year- ?% A9 P6 R& t2 X
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 N- ?9 B7 ~7 E3 a
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,5 S/ F, q* E3 b- l  a) i
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.* v* J0 D. Y! D) `: Y
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
3 y' e* _: h$ t7 H1 Uhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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1 Q0 s7 K  V* U$ T- S) f; t% Dsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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7 |. W  y0 j* R& g/ b1 Pexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of* M" g0 P2 f+ z* z8 O/ t/ E* E
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
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buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; l& t% \* B% D8 Q4 P# H
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s- t( l! p1 [3 ?
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories+ C# }3 w, X& Q/ O
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled- J/ \2 a0 P) A2 T9 c
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated." q7 s' F) G  z% b* |1 d, @) f
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
5 |; L! @* p* J$ {7 ~0 Thousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners& C2 e! m7 g2 s+ C
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
2 N) J9 m3 O$ t% A3 X% rThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average+ C2 t, i6 }6 ?5 `' @: m$ Q& U
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,  t/ Q2 N9 O' L! I0 w* {
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. + G( Z" H" `0 b( T
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子) O6 u# Z6 `2 ]5 S$ A
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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" x. m7 y5 c3 x4 t- t. O. x2 d[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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