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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.7 ?5 B" j4 P3 s: z

. j7 b+ W4 u% ^/ X8 NTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 2 V' \& [) A1 k; g

$ r3 u4 n* q" K: DThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. / K5 [- }7 ]+ K+ T$ M* g9 r+ V
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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4 ?6 ~3 [" T) x: V8 k- qNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.* Z! O# [" E8 N9 T) O2 W
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.! e& h7 h- T  ~

: [! @2 o& X+ ^, M5 {2 j& k"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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. n! V8 ^& A& DTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. + Z3 h8 t8 B& p9 w5 ?( I: L
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
- A+ K; \1 h3 X 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。  o" |3 ~% l0 t6 V8 ^- f( d
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 + I; ~5 G% I% v4 d7 k
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

7 O! k$ |' f* j! T很多人都回学校深造去了
$ f" g$ f; t& T6 W$ [嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
- p7 o4 v' X/ ]; `; pWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
8 `; t, P8 m! u) J" mboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton" i. c3 B: n/ C$ L5 h/ N1 ~; p
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to6 Z! z3 d7 z5 U( \, Q
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
& s  y9 p: W% J- F2 n! p/ l4 L) n/ I, i2 Iformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
5 X) t. W3 S  |, u: D8 zfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
3 A- Q$ A: ^* o$ F  P- Qthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
6 _" G; f% \' x5 _may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
: u" M& ?  v5 u3 k; {pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
) v% S1 D  f/ T5 j" C, Uprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this$ ]8 i- C$ ]0 t
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,( m2 B  U# R9 E0 S9 W& M
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around+ f  t6 D% e, i2 {+ e+ O0 |- K
30,000 new households will form in the province during, }" [' i9 f) N1 t( q* u
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%0 c4 C) }( ]' b* Z, d; G: Z# t( A7 {
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
* `3 N  L( G; Q7 A5 u2 ohas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new( u5 }- s& {, J: s& r0 V# I
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals' x9 z2 X) w* X9 M
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of: j( `. @$ j1 h; y  s
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
0 O3 y; k5 R# F6 T: csales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive5 W; S- d  v+ z. Z% K3 v9 Y3 F
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in2 p5 r9 [" o- u$ R7 v$ [
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
$ j/ a* G2 ~$ r& x& Iunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747$ X9 |8 {. _" ~
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest0 G, `) X( x# M2 c$ M1 B
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
' U0 G: c" l! d, u$ yresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s9 s& \; P% M- o  g7 e
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
" L7 F, V/ S$ t3 I0 I& o5 \5 YThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s) ~3 _5 |0 }& A5 U- ?3 m+ i
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
: M# I8 Y* a; l3 t7 Q2 R( SAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
5 o- y& A0 `) I; D8 p1 fhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced6 q, u( q. Y' X) ?! o' a/ }
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
2 N( E! l( _% W+ `; h( Bprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
7 z+ f3 N, M9 T- {though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
/ b0 `* `5 |1 Y8 _* Won average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.+ D  |. B% l1 \/ ~. F
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
8 ?1 Q: a- _4 s8 v$ Xresale price in February is evidence that past prices  [% C( c8 q9 Z! ^2 Y$ T3 N
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 m$ {+ C! N) g: P5 p" ~/ E
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%4 ~$ c. Y6 Z: }! k  w
leg down over 2009.0 o9 ]' i1 E, M6 f6 O
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. - f, q. [, R# S3 M
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子; s+ z+ b1 s8 C, z
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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