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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.( t& s7 }6 w% `5 I

3 l) T9 D2 ]5 ~* p& J5 @TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 8 z; \1 n2 {# f6 x" v# S) ]
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. * D/ h8 N  j1 W/ k  x$ ^- J; Q
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller." T* Q6 \/ D0 I6 F, V+ J/ A
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.( t% r; U: Q  v, m% {9 e4 ~

! b5 e. L3 I1 R; q$ I! p"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.   o  E6 z9 j+ w+ q+ F
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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2 {& t8 o  b* f  LTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,6 Z3 i% c* k  l# `

6 q' `0 R7 ~. U; h1 I+ V[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
; `! m. a5 [0 V, D8 m3 l* D" R! b 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
& w( o7 |2 j; g0 ^% z跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton, m# {. A( F7 |+ `$ s5 T9 G" R
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to5 v, G8 Z3 U  j4 J) n
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household: }8 {( f( t/ m/ t
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
2 j: |; i" `6 S. h. Z5 ]$ |8 sfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
4 m3 O/ E  W- i  ~4 g. ?0 uthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
3 r7 D' V6 H3 w) M7 w& Emay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
1 `* k# X" \) C0 V# opace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed! S$ P  x* y& r$ o4 _8 L
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around9 r* O7 ^% t2 U. }3 u9 G0 R
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s% ?! \$ l2 Y7 e+ {" Q
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
& o* I+ J; t& B# t/ f( J, O: l1 Uduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
0 Q/ [- ^' q" y# J+ Mhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
% l5 g7 \. f5 T/ Q+ [4 T4 e; ^% rhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals5 Y2 k2 w! N" e$ H- @7 c
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is/ q* r( o7 [& j  l% U& ~8 s& e
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of4 X& D& |: x+ s8 k$ z5 `  N* e2 b: `
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a2 o: _/ e+ ]. d6 _3 W7 j" {
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive& N/ Z1 @" g$ K1 j  U
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in8 Z0 a: G+ T/ a3 x  N1 X( j: b0 u
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in; q$ b# M7 o6 ^, o
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7471 P  U& n( Z, }5 F2 ?/ b* t7 s4 Z
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
" F5 a& W2 D4 n* ^9 x3 ]recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the; L7 R+ C5 v1 D4 Q& W- @
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s4 G" c+ f5 x' f( z8 V9 S+ y5 }# ?
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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# U" ?5 \0 _5 T+ L+ urapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
% l0 h' u$ J3 OThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
" v: a5 o8 n1 n& w% O% W" {boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
  I2 J: D/ Y0 U+ q- D+ {, ~% EAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan5 a) o4 u2 Q" ?0 H  L+ A! [7 [
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even0 _. |! _) h8 `
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average7 \" ]8 |' M% u! C0 r
resale price in February is evidence that past prices; L# f" [  }0 `$ i' s
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove7 b" }! l. u* u. x3 t! Q
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’' y; x* r% C* u
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,6 ]! ~9 l% j/ `  A  T
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%8 x$ g3 {& \2 U4 n
leg down over 2009.
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
+ k8 ^, c& Z: V% HAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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+ |& ~6 h: o; U+ z) p: y8 u7 I[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 7 |" q6 p, L. y, a  \
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子9 B0 |9 A" S4 g5 I/ V  ~+ Y
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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