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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.; u0 _7 @, W" S. s! s7 `/ e

( j' o2 g$ W0 ]4 i# _TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ' d1 l: H) m- ^5 `! ^, }

5 c& ~  ]/ L' A) \/ c7 u: r# G5 _The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. $ p/ h! ^4 |5 T
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.  S9 O( h: h9 f9 T- Q

: S5 F5 L# {( ^# J6 q+ ?7 t: XTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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7 j3 A* E" R9 H6 I) J' @TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 J2 w* H7 j8 z& B

3 r* M, W# d0 T+ [$ QMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. + o( ~7 C  g# E2 w

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,8 X- U( F% y5 x$ _$ E3 T

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
9 ?+ ^2 |9 h6 ~& B% ^9 g2 C 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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: y$ G3 t( h5 T; n1 t[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
/ ?0 r8 {2 P. D" Z跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
1 d6 x& w6 N; X4 Y, `嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
# U" D8 x5 R9 D! EWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its, L+ i7 ^: @' e1 S
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton& S5 o4 k' w% c0 O: U8 B" _0 j; q
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
' j- t& e; u: k2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
/ A6 F4 q- s: c" h. }, p( Jformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided& y0 a" G% v& D) {
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,5 G% Z0 r7 J. m8 _7 E! r' O
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
) N7 ^& |5 E+ {/ V9 a. l+ `( mmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous" F. M; Z' X4 E8 W0 ^/ V
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
; u* \! U( [, Q, O& R% r- {precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
' j; Y3 m! Y8 M3 ^' V) }5 Ito 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
& G* A9 E7 v4 E& Jprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
! f' S+ ?8 P/ a9 Tyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,$ M$ I9 Q0 T4 F- w7 Z! @# X- d- S
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
+ v% i* T' ^7 J7 }30,000 new households will form in the province during& ~8 @* s. A+ `6 m4 o
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
+ X: Z* {. p8 \1 J9 X) FEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s- G1 P! s5 D3 `% W6 ^
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
, \  Q$ ~8 Q) A! S* |" bduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
" r7 A. L0 w9 F; _4 |# L% b: G, Ohas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
) A/ j9 U& A9 |1 Xhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals7 J% I5 j) u: {1 }% H9 a6 {) Q$ U
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging4 S/ Q# g2 m% y, D8 @- A
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
- Z4 v$ `& g  H: L" q. O; @" Oclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is  \8 c9 V5 r' x6 p
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
4 k  q* I; |; H( c( R1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a% T; b+ Z1 S2 W* A
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
* m9 Q9 c, G+ Q- g5 abuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
3 H/ H1 [5 T- `two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in" l$ Z3 \# j: _) E
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
7 x9 y# u, p2 G+ _unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
2 d/ X; @3 j# G+ grecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the5 s- F, D' n, B/ O5 d9 v
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
! T, `) b) ~4 h9 N3 Cmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- p# c- a# v6 N* h/ e8 F
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
5 g2 j6 }) m$ o2 U$ H" T7 Nrapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
" i/ `0 i! U2 Q- RThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
$ v6 t% F8 R0 S/ r: O+ Wboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.% b8 k" ~  m0 ~6 L& h
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan6 D& i3 m0 y* M$ y  d
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced3 w& j, Y6 y  Y9 d% j. u3 ]
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale- N. ]9 X' X+ Y& ?  ^9 c& n
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
  M( s: Y4 }( W$ }# M' V; O' v* {though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners( D- q2 g7 ^. A
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.9 i6 O9 ?  ?# @3 c, u2 Z5 A
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average# c! e: x& H% Q) u* ?
resale price in February is evidence that past prices; e+ e, b2 Z" P# L8 e) a# L1 B
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
" D" B4 W0 h2 O2 z+ q3 L! E) Ghomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
4 d/ p' ^4 U# B, z$ p2 c8 Ndeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
( H) v" ~& a$ Q6 P) k: tAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
2 |& x0 _/ Q/ @; ^+ d/ K0 oleg down over 2009.1 G4 |( \1 g# n" B
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,# W5 L* i' I5 Y3 G( o
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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$ {7 e! @1 Q) D; _9 n2 v" {4 E; h) n[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 8 r7 J' a+ t7 n3 i; {
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子* ]7 `+ E9 q6 [! r0 {$ _

1 s6 D; Q! {' ^6 k! E9 {http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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