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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.: `0 R3 e6 p3 j1 V" H: E( L
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. - s& R% X0 e3 ^4 |

. m: u/ p) K; Q% f7 i% p( s2 l7 K7 B( n* YThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. , C+ \. \; [& j. a0 X) t
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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' e+ W, [4 }& h3 ]% N* nNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. + H! D7 z0 @, V+ ?* Q6 h% V' b

) x% b8 |& Y% V! y/ R( c+ GTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 e- d6 D6 e/ P0 u8 O$ i
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ' s. ~8 J$ F9 {2 |

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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4 t- p% \9 s7 O! w[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
$ l* X; j8 g4 D: Z, x 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。: U' N! h! I$ u* |% E

; c" U6 W" {$ C! O( X. c7 P[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
* U3 R' S' U) p0 d跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
5 K9 O& U/ o5 D- e3 k% ^嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
6 I$ o5 I( \4 o) O4 ^' xWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
+ J* i/ n% C7 o( Ofrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,5 g2 o  s/ S: f2 @2 w$ ]
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and' g* b& v3 N* r
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous  u2 f) ]$ k2 S; `& ?
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
7 T, s- y) ^- kprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined' w( X- _0 I. x; Q4 P4 i& D3 ~; q2 |
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
1 m( _; X$ @- N$ D# S/ Gprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this, A0 S4 ^3 J  f
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,$ M; j: H9 `3 k' H! y
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around& x% v" w& M3 j1 j3 [! @$ K) @; A
30,000 new households will form in the province during
3 S  [( Y# x8 e# |2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
9 L% P7 f2 |9 Y; b, d3 n! H# hEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s7 u" M4 P4 e0 G" g
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%2 ?6 g% F7 l9 i$ I) L: R
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
* C! u4 O' m4 _# b: thas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
# [, S8 |6 ^5 H' H8 ]excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of- r0 N% f6 b- l, s0 q1 \; @
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
# h4 E+ {/ [2 K. M9 gsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive& w5 Q& R0 S& `" U$ `8 O% {! Q$ v
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
6 F4 `; O3 n; `( N$ Qtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in, Q4 H5 Q( W" k+ |
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
! U. ^8 t9 q# L6 T2 A, ~unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest5 J  V5 H2 f8 |, @0 j
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
4 e1 A; D$ }% N" mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.4 i- |( |3 o+ \; W* [
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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& E) y( v0 x9 MAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
$ M4 M1 V$ W9 s! M7 Ahousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
5 d0 Y' Q/ b* v8 v; z( Arelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
( |! J3 o4 x/ h6 P6 m4 F' h/ t3 ?* fprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
0 o. U3 L' E" i: {* I% c' lthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
% E4 {0 C4 I" o. Q+ aon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
  Y8 q, c7 l/ Q/ H" WThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
! e2 m" B/ Y, F4 P+ uresale price in February is evidence that past prices# d7 a' H1 H+ l; w. I! u4 n
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
3 A! `9 x. y; w: l; _homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
1 S2 [: X3 l8 f$ F/ B: Kdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
' m3 Y/ o$ j/ X# I( e2 \6 T& |0 xAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,2 @4 d- Z! s% R* v' s6 z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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