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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.3 ]# }  n, n. W' k4 D

+ |& g. P2 M% d6 NTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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3 w: X% o6 f& F$ n$ e% I/ oThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. & t/ S- X  l  @& }/ A* m
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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& W+ n7 t2 u; m. C$ P( k8 FNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller." C/ W( c' L, a* H2 y/ h1 O

3 U3 @- m4 @: X+ j0 u1 C2 v( u7 ]TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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: |& X3 z3 C- [  D9 C% @, f' s"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. $ z1 k: P, E) P* ?  I1 R
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.# ]3 }( ?& [; C% o6 \- g- g+ Z
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 0 [& [, j. O0 E1 e9 w' I" p

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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% A$ Z; H+ h% O8 G. |TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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% i7 @6 d' }1 U0 K[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。1 s7 \8 q# T- x# a; b
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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" W' T6 y& h1 T3 t[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 & F( {9 m7 u. [4 K  e  g1 f
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

4 I% l+ v2 b0 R很多人都回学校深造去了* x5 r2 p) ]% G* }7 }. B" i- I& X6 j
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
1 ^% |6 d7 H* X' d/ }Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
% O* S9 M/ `8 v# x# pboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton  b1 |) o5 S; M* ]  |. [
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
. A. @% ^) e: q  P' R3 A2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
; m# B2 y- e: e0 v) Eformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided8 I+ n$ g) J9 b+ H7 X! Y5 S9 r
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
6 k7 r6 }( m5 Q( W8 C  |) R, Tthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
$ V6 ^: R* _, X6 ^1 P) Tmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
1 S8 e3 o& G' j4 o5 Fpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed# w* H* D9 t. v& _+ v
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
# w# a; N" K* e+ t  [" Lto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
1 a2 }. a8 L5 f* X  g) }( V; |prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
% x3 F- |  N' e9 F+ k. hyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
. |0 y  Q. q% ?$ [5 Y5 Q( Khomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around0 A9 w7 Y0 u, X+ r' [1 m' A
30,000 new households will form in the province during
& u$ ~& r% ]0 x) h) {+ e2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
0 k) V1 V8 j! t* _' pEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s  m) C4 a, n! O3 f+ s
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
7 |! ~7 W" |  Y% @8 Vduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
/ }, J. q% L5 r' M1 Yhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
  y& x/ ~8 p2 E6 [' x2 c3 Khouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
; y/ u4 T9 [8 T5 T# m- Oduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging) s( S/ x* ^0 A+ n3 q  G
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories; B/ T1 j( n9 U
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is( X* ]) I0 O4 o  l2 X5 M1 n
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of# Y# c7 S1 o* J1 i( _5 m% P+ h9 w" L1 a
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a' p% g2 _$ Y( p. O4 W# S
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive8 Y4 }; _- m1 D$ m. T9 `
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in5 w3 L- h3 }/ B. T
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in; n/ q% ?% l! ^; v
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
, h* H" S& f9 H4 B9 c( funsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
& Q- I* y1 [# M+ s, H1 zrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the7 S& j+ T* _  `; T) D( y5 X! z8 o
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
0 z- F& l: E3 a) Hmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories; a( q8 i. u) ?0 }+ l
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled7 q" u& g, j. k
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.4 z) Y& |8 k2 }" l1 {
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s& R) e& ~3 n. m- U) C6 y5 ~9 n/ U! J
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.* {; `7 z% e# |6 h+ y! n* x6 B
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan* P' O. L3 D2 L' l
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
' F0 v- }# s4 urelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
+ n$ u- \; `0 ]$ Lprices substantially eroded affordability and, even+ E8 _* a1 R. P+ ~2 i; F/ k6 ]
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners0 P' d  D. L9 |1 l
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.  u$ n/ @1 j( k* j9 R; s  k0 O1 r
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
5 q6 D* \( r5 M' K/ K9 Q4 Xresale price in February is evidence that past prices
8 B8 l  {) w# V2 Z% kexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
( H+ ?) ~; k/ K% u: rhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 r9 r8 y" w' x4 n
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
% I' |. U" b+ o8 [. _# f2 yAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%2 [" q7 [! O7 o8 q: u% y9 n
leg down over 2009.& \0 U. h. I4 K$ F. y7 t6 b/ Q

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,1 ?( g( ]0 c% C
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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& H# c/ |$ x3 n- |/ shttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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