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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 3 Y+ `/ Y* _9 w
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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: S0 S8 F! z# E6 Z4 Y' ^) f$ ^Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.$ i2 j2 |0 ?4 g* T3 o) ~8 H
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  t" K+ P5 J; F- z9 X9 n6 x: J6 t
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ) ?2 u: T( p8 H1 W8 a

2 ]8 h* T; ^5 B5 B' i4 v7 uTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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& [/ H' R! K4 WMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. * y6 ^# i7 Q4 j: F+ |, I8 S5 I
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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, P8 F! J/ ?; @TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,/ D+ n% l+ E7 s! k. g

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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
3 V% C4 {: A3 |# @ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。# [2 @# H. K2 [
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 4 _8 S, y4 F; @! O$ \3 T
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了* I; i0 ?5 c! o! ?" x
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
6 V- w3 v+ w. b  H: ^- G' C! ZWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its+ C2 O" F# [5 k5 K
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton8 p! d6 }- Q' x" f
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided8 G0 ?2 m% l' w" a+ ?% N
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,- j% d, J3 |! n* F) V  O, q
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and$ O+ x1 n8 M' G7 M/ e6 Y
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
' @! q# L  I! }5 v' Zpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed: C& }5 `3 f$ V$ A1 G. R
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined# T. g+ z  X/ E5 \
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year3 }. s$ K6 F6 q) M$ J5 W  O
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
& i- `, g; e. k% c' P" m30,000 new households will form in the province during- X3 [: @7 a3 E- c! P9 T
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.' K1 G; W; M- k5 K4 p
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
8 l4 U' t# j0 x, ]  r9 Shomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
0 R( b9 t- T# Tduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta5 m' m5 K/ Q  W7 s5 s, y
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
& h$ Y5 [$ r( t4 r7 ?' ^+ W) B2 Thouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals7 }7 d! r- J5 y% [6 t: n
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging; }" z) ?* _2 g8 E) t3 V1 h
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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% i2 y) y. s" z# E8 I9 {* P" ?excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of0 c$ L* x. _0 o: F) E
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
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buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
7 B( W6 Y6 x# Y, wtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, z. h  V) b9 Q' Q  Yunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
, _/ j6 S$ m6 `6 Uboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
( K. [* |4 f) p- h! e' V- PAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale. T! r+ I; ]9 q2 x+ C
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
" D' {9 J- b: F! {4 u' Xthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
& N8 q" @# V: b/ D( v  uon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
" ^- s  G0 o  L# w) a+ v. G& d; V- SThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average# U  Z! q: V9 [- \
resale price in February is evidence that past prices0 n( N. z# Y3 u& O" R
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove) y: n8 S' V  _6 E
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%* |0 L+ T/ u  z
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
$ L( B0 z/ |  |6 C" V9 o7 {6 g) O翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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5 o( K/ {- p0 mhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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2 H) b: T7 Y; b" _3 L[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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