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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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  i6 F! m) \2 r, OTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! [/ D( @9 ~- b1 {0 }0 ?' R3 W' {

8 ?6 j5 |1 a7 A7 ?8 |"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.' ?; L, @% F- [1 |+ S

; ~' K. W9 }- P; cTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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+ X- U1 q" i, u8 \"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. % C, |, O) Q  z% \( C! ?; I$ P

4 A4 e) E6 X# h1 J: s& E" QTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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! u3 p( n8 _1 b  j5 D! h- ^Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,# _* x9 f, V0 d+ r2 l( K

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。& z0 f! P# _" m4 D
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
& [  w- X2 u; U1 z# w  c跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了8 j- Y* H, }0 F" O) w
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
) {( O/ ?; h% k! N- J" ~Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its) x0 Y* L# U  J" o# Y, [; r
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household) L: v; Q# d3 y- F( H! W7 e$ @' B
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
% ~/ i- ]" T; X% Q+ U1 N" ~from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
2 w3 J& Q# m4 i# i- S" othe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and& v2 S" S$ G7 ~- j: t
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous/ w$ a3 m% K, ]% y4 l
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed, I' b& _& e$ i2 [( z
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this/ y$ R/ Z& E" a/ z2 [+ s$ A
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,9 m, S7 M- Y0 j$ l) g0 k8 t
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
  ?  k, l! s. \+ w, U8 i30,000 new households will form in the province during
2 C$ T: H5 z! ]2 v# [6 f2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.8 d8 o! d3 n- n" f/ _7 _0 V
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s: B/ [) k$ {7 H$ \. P' T) F+ P
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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1 e$ ]7 q# G+ E7 Uhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new7 G  J7 O6 m2 S$ D, ^2 a0 }
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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1 w" K: `8 [# wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of  v8 R/ v% [9 Q$ e3 p/ V0 K- x$ ?
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
5 o9 O  [- x% E1 x( I- B: Ysales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive+ @0 o) B/ X, j
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
: j$ E: Y5 J. b$ Z, Ttwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in6 y  g) O" x* ?6 p( ]
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
3 Q# n' O+ H% @9 U) Dresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
5 ^# k" T" E0 a& E$ Y+ hmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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! M7 G9 A9 ?4 \* M% ?$ v$ n$ x7 @rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
# v2 L- q+ u3 K% u& A, ]; z9 IThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
! g8 n& s2 F+ ~% uhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
6 J; k3 L% _1 D- d* d* }% crelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale# F& y9 W8 h' K0 Q& A  T
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices
8 B6 r4 H$ x2 P4 x: v/ cexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
' U! \- t2 j0 Y( w) n% ihomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 w  i" Y9 X) s; C( I! f
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
4 z1 L1 A( A8 M' @Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%" d( M$ w- ?7 M$ D+ `) _" x- e5 D
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 ^; E: m8 z9 p8 D
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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