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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. % ?& g4 K; I* _6 y1 \' P
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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7 F7 y* U- v6 \3 wNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.6 E3 T# |; p' o8 [

: p$ F. Y: Y9 P3 kTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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+ i2 [/ I: {5 P4 r4 g6 J6 N8 rMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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, D! I  {/ c" g. q) }3 tTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,2 H+ e/ j; Y- ~5 K  X/ r! |6 o# F

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
9 }: R! a. a8 R8 ~ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。3 \% z' `) e4 b$ j- b% X2 p) S

$ O. _* _0 K: R0 Z# q. O5 d. a[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ( a+ l* X1 H7 @2 h, b3 b
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

7 n: r5 ^6 d1 m0 I( U5 @, @很多人都回学校深造去了
" r: k) p) U4 |9 o( F. M/ F& o嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta* Q6 N+ x' R8 E9 N* N  Q
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its1 u4 `( b3 J' o8 X  o+ J4 X
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton. q( v% i. K5 T9 q
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to7 s* F9 N! j. S' c( Y/ ~% j
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household+ ~* [% h4 ]7 F2 l
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
! e5 ?- G! e. L1 ~% {5 Vfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,, F4 O$ g" e, H; a2 n- c9 g4 P
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
+ m( S$ o: H9 L( Y  P2 m, imay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
% R: H% x5 d9 T' Hpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
, H# g" m! O, b2 p2 cprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined; _- |7 E" ^- @" |: v
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
" \/ r) z8 A7 m; ?. X4 _2 Uprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 L* g2 E, q" p7 \
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
- y, o! V6 D: |2 d$ ?homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around. F, j% j% |' k0 l
30,000 new households will form in the province during
8 `* }& j4 G6 q7 x2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.* u" k' G2 }8 c
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
2 V/ O5 N2 q) G) x. D2 U. khomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories0 V/ {* H. g: c! X
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is8 @8 b5 l' K1 N' N6 u# Q
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
! G3 S% s% V, o. v. O1 x4 v1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
4 P, D  L1 p* `$ Rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive  j: z6 i  M# Q- N) E
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in5 C9 w6 ?, R0 v9 j+ D' D  R/ G6 |
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in. c2 X: I2 Y6 a, F% `# _: Q
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the1 A; u2 X8 h0 W* R8 w" _
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s7 X0 i9 s( |7 N. n* q* @
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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9 k3 l0 I' a. E& c  _The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
" M6 O! h( o9 F6 W! r7 Shousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
! i5 A& E! {( Arelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
1 c7 V( J! Q" F, i! T; K' tprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
/ t" q/ s5 Y, w1 D* p+ f; s! zthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
5 B+ t: x2 f# ?9 G. mon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
$ ]# g9 I2 u# K. O% nThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
. }# ?7 y# ^4 h0 |& }resale price in February is evidence that past prices% i. }) n; \4 y7 v, W
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove- q$ \6 t3 _1 m) ^
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’* T! C8 W& l5 f9 j! Y
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% k- _, s' F' I: B; p1 z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%0 [, V/ X" J9 Y6 ?' V: d
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
, A' M6 Z3 ]8 h" pAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments2 l& X- O. f& b& A; I/ L* ^  M

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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