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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.8 L9 \  M3 ], X2 m$ ~4 N
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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$ G7 B/ T: Y7 ]( D$ [' iThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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# L0 k3 a9 h9 O3 K& g"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 5 Y. o) p% E$ e9 g* d( ]9 U1 X( H

- J5 j5 k: `. mTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.  C) O; {$ ]3 Y7 t  \9 r

- `* h9 I# f& e! b0 ]! N, R5 O8 v1 AMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ' l8 @& E3 `* `( Y9 F
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- y0 W" R, S% ^9 J
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。6 K# \; \, x3 I3 N# x
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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% H4 I. m0 Q0 s8 L[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
- X' ~8 r1 w: E2 r跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了$ d+ r3 j9 t" b
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to' [4 j  U" O6 y
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household) X4 s' I- V5 \7 Z% c! D, v
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided/ t" f- e: S" z& \4 @. K& o7 j
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,$ K0 P: O& h* C1 x+ n
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
3 e. y) T( q# y* x5 Jmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous0 \+ w# S3 s/ L2 K2 K! T  W) Q. m4 F
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed6 D3 p: l) I( X
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined, ^, Z1 F1 Z1 o( z5 S4 I
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
: d+ x, ]* _+ g& n# M- Ihomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
. ~7 X2 H3 \0 p8 e/ G) F30,000 new households will form in the province during( ~2 {! ^6 B/ ^4 C/ \& G. I
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
- y8 g/ W+ C. H- A) L9 BEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( Y5 J. V" o& Y# `* A
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
1 Q4 f4 I. @& ]& v9 [; y  g  Qduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals! X: I7 i" {# y
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging. z. g$ @) j3 R
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories# z0 n  b. y' |
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is- G) `' s8 Y2 w( h5 E& L
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
, i" W8 @  E  i$ Rbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in) r$ }' z, ?7 t9 H" Q% U
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in3 ^& y$ a$ f' j! k2 q# N7 G* F
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747+ K" D- E8 ?# n" Q. V6 x# f' C
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest( A1 ~9 C: W; y( d6 H5 \' Y( U
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
7 O! j; C! `! |resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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6 B" t+ H# n& t  h9 n% N) MThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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+ K6 {/ R" [+ v  X# O' Cprices substantially eroded affordability and, even4 |" l: t4 G; v0 q
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners5 x8 X7 h! z/ G6 o
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
# L$ G3 Y: F" T- x9 _9 pThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
3 T1 l) g: u% _) M$ O; V' yresale price in February is evidence that past prices$ g1 J3 E/ C/ u/ w, A
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove9 T( e/ E& y; f6 b
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
; a7 ^' K# s/ v. uAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. + ^* k# Q; x' A3 J, |. d# H
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子, [; n  ~: M2 s' d# ?) b5 Z

) }2 ]7 `7 O! L: |% v" D6 g( H0 Hhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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