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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.  `# C. q5 w- a7 q
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 2 T1 t3 W  ~6 o$ H: ?) R6 P
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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  @2 A: x$ ^; o/ LNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.# l* X3 y5 q4 @1 h$ V
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.- ~) [- u( ~( z  P+ ^; s* c
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 8 `1 w1 s* o% L! _0 H$ E
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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. E8 v4 l6 K: a: R# IMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 3 c2 ^2 Q$ y/ [

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。2 R$ @9 I/ M! r9 t! n% B% ^
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。5 I) f% F7 d& h
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 G* W0 Q' G* v0 i* e
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 y, j3 ?2 t0 a很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
2 W0 ~6 [! d( JWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its: x* S. g! O5 ?6 {  ]
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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' X" `9 N/ ~, e' K+ l2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household6 ]) a- ^% r1 G5 d+ b) Z
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided7 |( F* y" j% V# c8 b
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
4 F) F* x# j* Ethe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
% T: |! _% A, P7 J) Fmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous4 a9 n$ R; o! C1 l. e7 ?) a
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
2 M( X6 F* `+ o5 Zprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined2 u$ U. a+ s7 G  B* \) [
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year8 E. [& Y: i% V0 ?/ {; O
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this/ F& N4 j* N5 o4 F+ e7 Y
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,2 F6 ]7 o( A9 }7 `* m4 p
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
0 h4 I: ^: r8 b3 _$ eEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
1 L  @0 T: K& ]( w0 i$ Jhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals5 v1 o' q$ S1 S
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is4 o) A8 w% X6 P3 r
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of+ P& |, E4 M) i- {; L4 D
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a* m% L0 y2 B; e3 }8 t$ _0 @
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
, a% M6 K" {' B6 G3 Pbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in+ B$ V* d, T4 r  n9 t  K
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in; Y* s; E9 l$ M+ q0 y
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories' f  e5 F5 d" k7 E# T& m- B
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled. }6 E. c: ~" L: x" r% q
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.3 L+ `( M) }2 ^! V# q
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
# {) b; u8 |) T( j: n* F) F, ahousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners+ a  O1 e! |$ [6 a* L1 H( D
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.% ?/ @, |) |- b( I& y
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. / D, K3 ^% D. T% U( W" L
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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