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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics./ M) B1 c. x; I* z3 [; h/ A
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. % Z8 e! ~7 c/ u! A

/ l0 j9 a. r7 B& BThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! s* w5 ^" S4 j8 Q

- u) Z, Y. E$ s$ {) @) D5 E"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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8 C6 _6 @9 u" O  s0 _% O# |  ?, vNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.# q& B6 k1 L0 j0 j: @2 k3 U( l4 v! s
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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7 q" A! K0 B. K"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.1 X# W5 x* p7 v3 o0 T

* G! x) z6 H% x& b# y" c1 nMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
- C# @) g: j9 F) K9 X 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。3 M& X0 ^1 I. ~
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
( a, u- N; o# e4 u- |+ ^7 Q跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

, K( E1 V5 P7 e2 }! s# s7 r. p5 W很多人都回学校深造去了  b; w1 v' a  m4 I! k5 G
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
7 M5 w( ]8 g( {: _) t" @Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
+ [; G& C! Y: h: ^boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
+ _0 p( D: I: K2 o6 l- ^3 A4 Aare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided% z' v1 a3 D; i9 r" O
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,; g( w( c( L* ?/ C1 n8 d, e
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and5 [' _; H; ]0 h: F8 M% N8 @6 p
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
% H" Z+ O1 J  v( d2 M2 @; g0 Ypace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
7 A9 W; Y1 Z! o) mprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined$ V2 l8 N3 t& z2 N/ K0 [% }
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year- O( x" O1 n0 ^' Q. G3 a
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around& L% F) R% V/ K( k% U
30,000 new households will form in the province during" [! ^: `& ^$ }' m4 z$ e
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.# T7 g5 K5 W* j
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s" V9 A4 B  e7 a5 V) _; B
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%& C- C. r3 p, T. F) h# N% |- W
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
! m4 ^9 c  ?7 n. |! chas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
  W1 p, u9 z; _! f% Whouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories5 _; Q9 T* r4 u
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
5 b! ]2 o3 y' u5 v# Q' c, Zexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of8 N' p  O+ @$ X3 y* P# C
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
# N, G0 ~5 H) ?' Jsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive* v: E- G- h+ W1 A6 S. A3 ~
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747) ?  |; I/ P) A% K9 h* y& r4 f6 C# c$ s
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s7 C9 S7 D0 E$ q
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced8 `. L; u, Y: W$ X% N! z
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
$ e$ @, u* e' c- Bprices substantially eroded affordability and, even6 _  C4 J. E  z. R
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners! K& b0 Y6 l8 z5 Q, L
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
' ?2 N! N5 i! l" R+ D) F$ @The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
3 Z: a1 v6 Q5 P. D9 b# `resale price in February is evidence that past prices6 e8 I; ~  b! Y" h+ k
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove1 S% C+ E/ D) O: l/ ]' E2 _9 s
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%. D; [! o: ^% ~* \
leg down over 2009.3 p8 ]: H* Q( Y6 U* E- z5 e
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,0 C1 ]9 ?" G* S  X9 K% C
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. % s! ?+ }) n; t( l' Y" j
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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