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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.* d7 ~# W) J1 m4 w9 h- B( R/ V. Q
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.   j2 p* w7 y3 L9 t+ v

, T" @+ T$ Z: W6 k, hThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 0 _% \: X! M7 k6 x# j& R
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.* ~% r. f, A5 r! s- C

) `: K- e/ B- O9 W/ \"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 0 `8 F% ]; z, o4 y' T7 G1 Y

+ K  h' {& T  T: K- yTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,2 b% c, z! K, i! ^
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。8 ?/ S! b7 o1 g: J( K1 P
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。" \9 j+ a3 X0 E+ n+ _* w7 t. L
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
/ A8 |: R" t2 W( g/ a# c跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
1 _' O. {2 I& N4 AWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its2 W* V- ~# ]& R: g
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton, `$ I, M/ B6 V6 i
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
0 ]% f% z/ Q! ?& f2 I6 R2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
" f. g& n' S& ^( Kformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
1 A" ]# H. B  M0 z" h4 D8 \8 L; \: Wfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
3 V3 I7 S; p, {- K8 `1 Hthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
5 \2 r# H2 f. e+ m, ]may even cease completely during 2009. The previous. H" p& h7 |! `- |" ]. ^6 c
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
( |% q# @. M5 z; y& Y! S; v6 sprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
  L, G& g$ l, M" Y% ?# t) Cto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
% t5 `/ K" ]0 Iprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
" o: k' U- X: i' R! O3 [30,000 new households will form in the province during' B6 ~5 W$ s1 |6 L2 ~8 Y
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
0 @8 o* _( x  t- I" r+ f; S& qEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
9 g) H6 f2 b4 l& ~. L! ^homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%4 q' q/ d8 L  S4 e
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
: n$ h, g+ \; [1 ehas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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- p7 w' c8 c! xexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of& j8 z; [* Z/ R# l4 n- `4 R
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
. O* F* B; c( y  S! Z% c9 |sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive9 H7 \7 C) _+ Q3 z( J4 n2 w/ [6 r6 @: }
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& d# {4 V6 y% c7 o
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
& S5 y1 J# D  c9 l) Eunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
3 a$ F/ I* i& C  |  i, Q2 I8 Cresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s+ c$ o2 G( a1 @; K- j8 N
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories7 d- S8 }4 r. R+ v
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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3 m6 S. M5 O6 K- w6 h+ \The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s3 k. R8 _8 O; N9 C, u, [
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
0 A# w! k, d, p+ I/ l0 G& {Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
0 C+ o  a" y) p7 Ohousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners1 }% d$ s2 _5 b! `1 s1 _
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.4 L) D! W1 o/ t! P1 w( r9 [) G" `
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average% A/ ]1 B1 b) \/ t
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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: {$ @3 b7 h# Q/ U7 b' shomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’, u) V" b. E6 }9 w6 E# q( n* ?
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,# D: `# B, C7 ~0 |3 |- }1 v" G
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%: }3 `! I! `9 y) }. |
leg down over 2009.6 ?( v* ?+ x: W1 r% j8 [

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
$ D1 [: |) p" E% u# k- y: tAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 7 T6 P8 a" G* @9 M  V
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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