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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.+ b/ d# M8 i" j5 k  \

) i- M: ^* d+ F3 kTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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" F1 `. e& P; K6 w$ L0 G) iThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 1 k9 b1 b9 h) Y7 `/ c

9 j& E! i; h2 F) B"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. : F. u& S8 I9 d6 Q
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.: B7 M4 z* a( ?6 G
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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3 o. K! A1 B5 [7 _  o6 y. UTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.2 V- w/ m% i# s+ _% r
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 5 b2 P5 h8 S1 i. l0 \& Y9 {
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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: \0 M/ x$ b3 n[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。, j" L' h% Y& s/ n
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。6 `8 E9 g% J- i2 f: H+ {! V

/ H5 b8 x' o7 i0 D- h# T2 D( v[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ! X" K4 a; i! V  R
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
' |$ H0 `4 C( w$ wWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
3 G6 v& D3 {5 M  [boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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0 n2 \, Y. N( d/ d: K2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household# p# W9 U; ]! m
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided( B4 A4 K  Z) r: g# Q0 l
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,5 L1 J6 i' `1 T5 `) U/ {
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
: T8 ]& u8 b) H! u  S1 _may even cease completely during 2009. The previous: |; h" G& O9 R" g) g
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed  O# z' V" r8 n9 P* A  G
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined( Q$ r6 j7 h! G. U% h
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
% ~2 v7 e8 X2 s( J8 sprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around# C$ T+ I! C1 C) b. ]7 v( ^
30,000 new households will form in the province during
6 {% B# L- E  H9 ?4 i2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.% h" I5 }9 E. w
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
0 D; e5 K, q- Y6 Chomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%$ }$ x+ W$ o- E" M/ V( v" a
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta! S  G  S% R7 h8 k3 G
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new# \; C5 E4 ?4 j! ]  _
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
. m( H! R1 @: h6 {during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging/ V) c' S/ v% K, ?
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
' D% |. C, h, W) l6 |clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
* r- |' [2 i5 g8 M+ p" H+ Wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of! m0 D' P( ?" i. C8 B% ?
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a$ _; l( M& C  l
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive7 d8 i, S( i' S( }
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in# s. _: N4 P/ }5 X/ r  k8 j2 _) r
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in2 @1 N* @9 q2 ?# v5 @4 x- N
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
2 @: f4 p/ K% U5 n+ [; junsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest8 h5 |* S7 p/ k: _
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the& O) H6 Z, d% X, l9 Y2 J5 E" Y
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
# [* }7 G4 N3 }( G9 P7 qmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories$ X, u  i7 z1 E9 {; b! n
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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( O) N8 x. V7 s& {The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s' X- q9 ^9 E  i6 y; ~. h
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.- b: A$ E: J/ Y& W# G- n
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
9 @" f2 f# {/ B4 c3 z: e; u) r2 fhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
9 @: Z; }% ]( |7 w7 f1 x  Nrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
+ `( |2 V9 F; j6 t9 wprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
9 x8 j# M  Y1 iThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
5 k- k$ ?2 C, F# K6 b! @: R3 qresale price in February is evidence that past prices* A+ R! o$ C6 }+ n1 O0 S
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove3 V1 ^) d# c6 v) k+ S
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’9 \2 V  P( q& v/ M
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,+ @, ^# e( Q. |2 ?% N- }3 v' Q
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%  e2 }4 i* ~; C
leg down over 2009.) y2 N- L) a- O7 i
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
老杨团队,追求完美;客户至上,服务到位!
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,2 X) F0 ^: m9 b
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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2 l+ v, d/ }4 u* ~+ @4 R[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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$ s  v  w/ O6 q1 d5 t3 G[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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