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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. : s) l* I2 B& m7 R

! K0 \8 J& \3 ?- u# [5 D/ o/ J/ ^The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ! m; Q# F" ?; x+ L

. Y) i+ h& i# nNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  b% ]! }1 N9 B* K: a" A$ ]
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. % q6 ?0 x4 X6 D8 O0 j

2 g3 O1 P1 q: t% cTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,! M# y) U' ?3 Q$ a" \$ s

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
8 X* s3 N. |$ f1 g' |, p 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ( A8 h7 [  R0 H, D: F8 A1 Z
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了: g" Z* Y8 W$ Z: t: d$ e
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
  n5 Z: T/ D: C9 {) CWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
3 s% f6 }/ L$ }# rboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton2 X: ?+ _3 L+ h  v' Q
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to4 Z! K, J- P9 I8 H) K
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household( t4 F" y5 u0 N3 x
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided: X! @* _; Y5 |, }: ]
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold," C3 V- N& ~; V/ {6 a: `( x- g
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and  N8 s4 p) h. v: n  p3 E
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
. q- K1 y) p! ~7 |& Pto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
' G& F' t( `& bprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
4 Q2 Y; I- L4 C+ p30,000 new households will form in the province during
: |: E. ~& W& J2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
5 h; c# ]4 N* V/ p% u+ R4 H% LEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
6 L; f1 J  o* s' b) C- |homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%; y+ w+ ^3 W' c% y3 b
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta7 }% \& ]+ k0 _/ p: V: c: N
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new$ J$ f4 H) m" d: j1 l& w& G: y% }
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
1 u! [4 n5 [# h" Sduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging9 p: M& H4 T$ F) [- s8 B2 C
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
0 v$ d, z' H1 I) Q- [clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
6 ]* s" {+ t2 P! p8 G3 ^4 Oexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of3 Y6 D2 O7 ]9 q& y
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
$ \6 s4 a1 i0 H5 }( t  Bsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive! u' f( T' S1 i2 B1 I
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in" z7 `7 \. R6 E: C
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
: r, G3 _8 p% D1 l0 S% nunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
; m" y# R  k; E/ y: z+ K( u6 E- nunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
% J1 y7 D, c4 m# i% i. ^recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the5 T( \3 r/ {7 w; |2 F5 f
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
4 w5 M% ]4 b9 n4 B3 w# x6 pmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories( F1 g+ `0 M! W$ W1 _4 x
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled4 s, b* [$ P# D' n# W
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
( l9 J9 @& L+ i: W# s; tThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
: ]8 @8 A, A( `7 {* K# e* ?boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.& Y4 `; X. b& h/ S4 t
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan3 @5 f1 Y$ f) L! v% X
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced- P6 G5 v$ J, ?! ^
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale/ ~1 e- K% F' E# z$ w, }0 }3 Z
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even. }; ~" M# _1 h# S6 Y' ?
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
- ^) U* L9 K" U+ p9 O$ \9 l- uon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable." ]5 y8 q2 D( t' e$ w! v+ j
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average" F: J' ^$ g' z) t' n
resale price in February is evidence that past prices/ _4 g3 c" m( X9 F+ B% p7 n, Y( _
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove5 w. C8 [1 v5 q0 P
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%& i8 b# H0 c9 M
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,& u& D+ W$ I( j3 x: f* u: y. j8 ~
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments* ?% q& o9 h1 k! o

$ x# b9 S# s1 b7 r% E[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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