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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.5 c9 u7 U. x: F0 z

6 |3 f& ^$ S) b) X: B4 b. XTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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: M3 D/ N* {. L. DThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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& W. V, e" |' B2 |2 yNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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) T& A, I# F/ w& ^4 f) gTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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: I, D$ g3 ]- c& w9 m$ M( Z"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. , z  g' K1 H$ x4 j) X/ @6 s2 c

$ |  J9 C' E$ K1 L* QTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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# {4 Y+ l* r' B% `Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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% W: A, j1 E2 [TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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, k- P9 p- K' d6 ~* q1 _" U[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
/ @1 M5 D6 x5 T 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
" k$ N+ j2 d4 W$ v/ ^5 C% d跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 X) q& ]  i0 V" B8 S很多人都回学校深造去了0 Q6 @/ j" \0 k# R0 L; e
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta# g8 x" W3 J6 P8 ]( D9 `& s2 W
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its8 h/ F& g9 X/ U7 D& W5 [: V" v
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton0 e' X2 `8 U: @9 n2 Y: ]5 w
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to7 J2 M7 |2 J9 C8 {4 H
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household3 \& j1 B% F1 V, d
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided5 G  h) u, Q8 b( C- F2 j; U! M
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 |% [! g/ u+ p  @7 k
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and) ^7 x9 B- b, q! r) A
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
! }! Y3 Z4 W8 N& E3 [& `% Ipace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed, T* B( K6 S5 s  G+ {6 Q
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined5 {1 F% S( v5 Z, D
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year- p6 [/ ]3 T/ `, T, k. J' i5 c
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this; P% p. L8 m, H; k
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
0 w7 C  Z) i  g8 \* o4 {# N. N+ Ohomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
/ J4 ]5 h9 c$ S4 z/ W30,000 new households will form in the province during
! j* s6 L, x' `3 m; E0 ]2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
; E( w" z) r& V* c, q! [Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
. Z  h/ i/ T- K+ b- I- U' S1 m: }homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
" e5 S  R, {( [( w5 h! fduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
. J# s0 r; s" s  r+ F6 Ghas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
: x# ]. x2 k$ J: j- I% T! dhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
" _1 y$ T5 w2 {) s+ Tduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging, `! B0 A9 Q) b  q% o/ j9 _
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories/ |+ x0 b7 P( C0 C5 h2 _
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
! W/ F! b0 P2 H% u, jexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
4 ?8 o7 T+ b9 M: I# V- ~% L4 [: I1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
9 A/ s" P4 k/ ]. K$ asales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
7 l7 ?1 O. T2 {* J, `0 \* I, pbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
! L; i& E, R: r* {% j5 B( Dtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
# I% j, G' i* B/ ~# w& [unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747+ j- M" |% C' W
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest5 ]/ |3 j" ^& ]3 ~: Y# |+ }; e
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the$ A9 L% f3 ]  R4 T* \2 }2 l$ W
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled8 A* W( C' [5 i4 v# W
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
5 j/ l9 C& v4 IThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
8 k7 r) Y0 d7 ^+ y) L) J, h! E* Sboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
: Y$ m0 q4 z) ~Although income growth was very strong, Albertan( ]4 F# ]7 k5 m: B) Z  E1 s
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced; \# ?9 Y  M8 ^. y1 C
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale' ~' t. A% G. }, v0 y: w
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.! ^4 J8 `; v' V2 ]& D) e
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
9 d# P0 c: R0 W- _* a4 presale price in February is evidence that past prices
1 \% _* t3 B; M! _* A- L3 aexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
* Y9 l( r- C, S( a1 ^5 _( }; zhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
( S+ e  D; Y, h2 sdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,) J5 o  l  L8 T! ]& ~
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%1 c$ f1 H& k% i9 ]7 U- d7 k
leg down over 2009.% y# Q9 u$ Q/ F; t
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
0 H; P" q; y3 n& a* ^$ uAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. & H" E. q; f- {/ B) n0 G; u
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子$ p, V- M  X' {' n) F' ^
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