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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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. M% `! c/ r& B& |  r( @1 O& ZTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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& O$ f4 R! l' w& R5 K( MThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ' k" y! [% I( L9 {" A, h2 W1 t
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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8 X! K$ ~9 Z7 H. n% FNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.4 c+ i2 ^% E+ ]1 A7 V" x

. S& w& R0 F  z- W* z& D% S, uTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.! M- V4 t, O- N5 s/ B1 o3 l; F
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 4 Z4 K5 }0 ]/ ~5 r/ q  I
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.5 K5 \9 Y; k$ o& k" ^, v# s

0 {$ b2 P0 t# u8 {7 BMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. % W" E) U9 r% Z1 X4 _
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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# V1 L/ y8 p+ d' }1 u( ~TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,5 i  L/ c5 }7 u. c
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。; X, p6 ~+ y2 p2 l- R1 G
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
( W6 |  d* V6 ~* j$ `6 O: v' L跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta$ z8 M, d: y* p4 [" F
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
0 {: K# e% L9 S$ ?' ]' rboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton6 g1 }9 R* u$ n
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to6 S  G# \! z/ h! A& b. ]4 P
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household' C) a1 ]  a: X
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
8 k2 i* n9 c4 F2 kfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
: ~: D' z6 ]1 ~) H- v/ N/ Fthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
; ^2 P1 z5 Z& w- j: _2 o5 |, X! S7 nmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
5 b1 K) u0 m) E2 b6 o7 y5 Lpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
4 I( ?/ F& s! Q8 x: K$ Y' dprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
, p! b0 Z& l; J3 g) jto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year7 T6 F( |- Y3 z) v- w. N/ y' ?
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
) _4 o' f) ?- p  l3 ayear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
8 B' Z4 O9 @3 lhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around/ [2 U9 r" W0 a5 p1 g2 x  o$ c8 n+ j. [
30,000 new households will form in the province during
: f& q# v5 s) w, [! ?2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
3 P! W  M* o/ a! |# V) w5 |Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
7 u( b. J) _: J4 q: Whomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
  _- J' Y" L! p; Dduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta3 R# _$ I* v7 `# b6 }4 ~
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
0 b6 a2 e4 P+ z3 B. |households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
! L* ~1 z- ?* r5 |1 Yduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
3 H% ?3 \" @' Z% Y3 psales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
( H% x8 g% R* P1 Q% g; A1 tclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
, G/ R# T0 [& A7 uexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of* A1 d* Z& Y' ^
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
8 v% J, ^( J; t+ j3 Rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive9 o# H( l7 O, @0 G+ t
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in7 q2 Z+ I  L6 Y
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
+ B$ U0 `4 C1 A5 S# s( Q% wunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
4 M7 p2 ?3 Q1 Z6 M+ H2 V+ xunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest- D1 F2 s1 m: T0 s0 `2 ^8 Z, `
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the1 P& O1 x( M9 }$ u& F, x# {
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled9 K# U4 \( j8 \2 r
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated." z& |9 f) b% M* j4 }" h7 x& H
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s  y# t7 S9 ?, s7 m
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
. T) E/ L/ c5 x8 }( x- iAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan# ^" B; a* ^* Z4 A; q7 D
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
4 h: a  \# _( S' Z- w) L* m( f# e* a* prelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
4 X$ k; P. ?' `' N2 J# W% zprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
7 ]% v5 D' _7 \" {" v( ]though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners- U8 c4 B% K$ \4 m$ R3 b
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
: C, s7 p2 H" BThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
- S) J: f) q2 L3 @resale price in February is evidence that past prices& l/ r* T" l2 t
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove& z  T, Z: g9 |+ l5 I
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’4 }7 l( e; F  |
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
5 M( Q" |, N1 o1 M5 |9 g0 IAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
5 Z4 z; b0 o7 Aleg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
+ c' A! c. w( V. H/ ^1 [Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. - _$ s2 V+ h$ C' ^6 ~' m  V
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