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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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; i9 l5 C; P( J* CTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 3 `$ D4 a% J% c: N+ Y$ t- t

9 V% Q' P. ^6 L( z* x"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.2 N( N" B; |. Z. H) t. e* d4 O

4 m4 A3 D* s# ]+ f- ^TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  P' `) p; T  J- q, D' [& l
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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/ l/ _' `0 F, {  [TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.; a1 u4 F: C% R3 O, [5 {0 D7 L
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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; z4 J* c$ }1 \2 B) bhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- {4 \/ R1 z3 \: C- ~8 x
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
5 V1 U: U- v3 d4 b 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
6 @! {7 [# M4 @$ K1 F+ R跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

( }& N& }* P! q/ A6 T! \% l4 U& N很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton& R  U) ~# ~' S# ]* g  E: D3 g# B
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to/ \6 V9 O. m6 q8 r( I+ u
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household1 U. W" b9 Y1 o  ~/ P
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- [3 Z8 {4 z! w- }4 |5 ^. dfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
' h+ \! |! {& D( sthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and, K, d; |; I! L6 R
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
0 h% A  r' [: C: W7 w. N, ppace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
/ C7 k8 ~8 i. \7 G) q: W0 yprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
2 j. Z# m% E4 K  i& n7 Y) y0 ]/ Oto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year6 w) g- Y0 j* t5 A
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this/ [. S/ ~- F7 g. f8 @+ K
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
& `+ i4 W0 G, i0 ?- e, n9 z) vhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.  Y8 p) K  U# i! P) B  k, J
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s; k% j0 |8 R& w" ]$ f* o* D
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new! }" F; O9 h$ d5 Y5 @8 m$ [) m$ M( s
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is" z  n) H% N. N: R7 ?: [
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
+ r2 s4 Y3 D+ a2 L  i, @1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
- x' g5 G$ r  q! v& Rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
, T9 Q/ S! C9 p8 l: \buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in2 Q* `# s" l% Z, e: N5 V" S8 f
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in5 b8 H5 L- z5 O4 t4 V9 b1 ^2 [
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747/ u' C4 ?  G; W" V$ F+ j
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.2 R. R# U0 ^8 S$ Z) @# ^
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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8 _5 R3 K7 \9 R  u2 IAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan, r# }, e# S$ b9 G" w7 q
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced5 C. Q. R1 R$ J) D+ b2 ~& o
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale) a( }4 X' V( O6 u8 @7 O: D2 Y
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
0 y' T+ I6 k/ C0 ]) z  P# o/ Pthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners  k. c' Q# ?8 H/ Z
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
$ _4 u) z) d$ nThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
! ~3 a# ^% p2 f; aresale price in February is evidence that past prices6 G2 `. W( e5 O, _" r0 j
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
9 {4 R' S* G  [- z) `homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
4 B7 r# w5 S! v7 l! cdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
/ G& \+ [6 ?, z. e3 o! IAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%9 r' @) L# v) N6 `3 X* e
leg down over 2009.
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. + S4 Z3 n2 h$ d/ ]7 q
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2 s% T2 j4 R$ t% _; E* T; O[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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