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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. : @! E: ^! r% S$ ]! ~, u

+ `9 [/ _# f) E0 c( ^5 X" nThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. & W2 w" ]& Y- t
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " ^5 A6 X. S# ?# D6 L) B
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.2 N+ W* T2 N" T! m' z
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 8 s- k& ]. h8 q* D7 k  W$ [& E

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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# ?9 ~. \% T; Q( M, ~TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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% B, n+ d1 g/ y. t3 V# ?+ e. Z[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
5 V: y7 l$ o, k. D7 n* ~# ~ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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7 A3 l- J2 ~. W/ ~2 |3 m8 _[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
% E& _) |, G! `, g- R0 E  ~% @% L跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
! g1 o! u0 Y1 h嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 S- u' B. C& X4 Q  E& wWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
$ e7 e/ u5 n, h3 {% l0 |4 Hboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
: z8 ?& n9 w5 z" ~* p: `7 Pare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
# b( T  o  J5 a( h: V2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household# I4 Q6 }9 S5 S5 D, L; R
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
# m6 u7 i9 ]- ^4 Sfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,: s1 J- M2 a4 C2 e
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
- i$ O; Z" _' Q6 T8 |0 P. vmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous+ b. X- I/ H( p0 v8 Z* W' S
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed# ?3 e* Y+ F5 P, [
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
( H$ h- `5 ?( h. Gto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
, }' T% n8 [& G1 Mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around3 I: d4 b' `0 L" q  W( A+ m
30,000 new households will form in the province during+ v# F) N+ w- c% S* l; z. R; D
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.3 x% O5 y3 ^. |" S
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
. V' y1 H7 T9 x3 m8 Q' @/ c/ u& ^8 Xhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
: f/ S2 p9 B- ]( V/ z3 I* oduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
6 b3 s# T9 q7 X! ~1 O- Dsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories5 i& X3 m) T* c
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
5 m- A( Y( H; a2 ^0 ^* `0 Aexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of7 Q  z8 p8 P* v& G' c0 Y1 E
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
- Q: V7 x, X8 Z+ ?; V( _! C9 k  Rsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive: W* z. @1 |$ Z& m$ |6 {
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
8 {  y/ y( r# `& f, e: D6 @resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s& p& z; ?& o0 R, ^2 H$ D
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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& v; U' ~7 f0 H# sThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.7 j& U+ U, |8 k$ Z" x
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’; A* ]$ w6 }% ^) ]: p8 @7 A! B1 C
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,1 N# P% c7 O/ `) a. U
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,3 w% B. _5 _  g0 U7 g: a
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ( v2 @- ~3 n+ Y/ Q4 z
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子$ ?; E; G1 |5 `- N! _0 ?& X
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments: y/ \, q  X8 B" g! O8 |
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