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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.+ @& r; _* m4 u( ~) F
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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. p4 _2 g8 Y8 O, Y" A; F9 Q" NThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 6 s0 R" `  t( K6 P4 k% r% O. Q

. k& k* B4 O+ q* r9 Y"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 5 W2 M0 B% h" ^! z
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.: ]" P$ P5 J- N! A: r4 t# a: G/ `

7 |. Q! c3 y0 d& P! I- A) x4 mMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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: d& O; Q: G" qhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,6 h* Q7 R9 D- ]* a1 k2 x! _

2 m' C- C! y" ^- K- @& p3 ?[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。! ?6 z; d1 o0 b" n5 W0 L
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。: R) L' S6 L+ `9 h, |
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
1 i/ |1 h) t5 u- _% }跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

( `, U$ r9 J9 _" v6 ?, x- X' n很多人都回学校深造去了
  R+ L3 r0 s4 [* W3 \! l嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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; R! X$ w# g) jboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton1 k  \* G- D% Q/ ^' A. o) t* D
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to8 {1 x& l* r/ e" K' _6 i
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household8 ^/ y- @* o0 Z8 H8 r0 R( H0 \
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
' o; X1 O/ q# Rfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,- [) Y# k/ ]6 |9 D" j- C
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
3 h! ?9 b- c9 b$ q8 |! U* ymay even cease completely during 2009. The previous; }4 k& F0 Z- W! ]5 G* k6 o% w0 O( @
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
2 w4 t: e9 k' j8 Ryear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
/ T) x; i3 B5 c+ _4 |7 ]homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around! i6 Y! ^2 N" U- X
30,000 new households will form in the province during
& k! v: B1 {" u5 z1 {4 K2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
8 Q; j& P, x0 G) D+ i8 Z3 a& wEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
# N7 }, T" M0 O" uhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%9 v2 @! S0 o6 f5 {, L7 X; K
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta4 w& y1 K) |/ |7 A- M% e4 Q
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new, c/ K& d% M: R. r! X0 q
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals! q' j& }- B, Y  M# a8 K4 @
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging5 C' V: C/ V, y* j5 p% H
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories5 q% W: l+ V0 m5 J1 Q
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
( c# c( o0 L, g. gexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of9 v. U) R' Z! |2 `5 ^
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a2 f2 A# T" p1 p6 B  t  x
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
4 P# X  d) q% {6 N3 q4 wbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in" c  s3 J% [* h& P
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in8 H8 k0 T& i8 N8 z9 f
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
2 ]: S/ w) c  u& H, E6 Dunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest) S/ c( P# H' m! r
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
, @: h- ?6 ~  M1 ~: Q1 presale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
. m: r% d: O* O( Lmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories# N2 l8 [) o* F! E/ J
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.4 o' g0 @5 f1 q% z7 _) q& A
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale. h$ z! p4 l) ]5 j# M' C- T
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even( N- @1 u2 |; r( l
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners$ @" d7 L; U; s7 R
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices0 M% w5 g0 b1 r5 E% I
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
8 R7 }7 s1 Q0 _homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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7 o* J1 t1 B  m4 I! iAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%* m: n9 e, j3 e" u$ \
leg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,2 m& x! U( D7 [( X( ?2 y3 Q
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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  @/ t) N+ L' F9 B- b[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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