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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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- P* l& s8 H# A5 s- f: dTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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$ W. v! J5 x4 j1 p# ~! V3 `" P"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.) H9 b* o% O8 W+ Z( O& v8 I
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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: R% e" Q  P& e+ X"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. - [/ J& _' Z* M2 j; ?  `5 a& b' D; w

$ D8 ?6 M- `: qTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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5 h9 y' b2 O$ H/ M9 mhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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, |4 j' t! z1 [- n& ][ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
9 m, y9 r& s$ p8 h$ B 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ; ~1 ]) _2 `# f8 H
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了) y/ ?' o0 f* a7 k3 Y0 a1 v6 a7 m
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
5 m" d4 n" b: v5 s2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household4 `  U* _" a) W0 D% A
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided1 q- U1 ?2 f, b
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,2 p! Y# c, h0 Z! F
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
0 s: a4 x0 |1 bmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
, ]9 S7 H6 R$ z6 V* J% ]pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed7 m' [1 C$ R, h: l5 ~9 [* A
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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30,000 new households will form in the province during4 ~0 e' a" {: N8 @) e' l5 }
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.; e6 C# t# n( t2 ?7 o. I7 ]. n4 [
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
% B" C0 i5 U4 z+ i* F6 Chomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals1 S9 d( _9 W( l' T- N" g
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging  b. C1 U) m1 z: B
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
3 Q! {( f% p! k& Z9 X4 {1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
" W( H3 d+ O; [+ R0 J2 \) Psales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive% V2 f4 N1 g! z- e3 ?  G( w# {
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; J; R5 W" Q, z. Z, e0 l
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s0 k3 ^+ P- j# ^+ D
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories& ]/ C  }/ L& }: L! _
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled: \- O( W1 }/ q+ h) M1 }  k
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
3 [7 \0 n) @* C! w+ i; DAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
6 L% q) _  ], U+ Ohousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced7 O( N6 Y5 i# [9 K9 C
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale6 A1 t" t* d8 c# t$ H
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even, w3 V6 l8 D; v
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners1 e4 R4 q% \4 J8 F" u6 @
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.9 f8 Q! J# t% \0 W, u
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
" Q$ {9 s* ^5 |; `4 t; D8 X: b+ Fhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’4 s9 F9 b2 G& ^1 \
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
9 E) P( I- K7 d2 [2 cAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
2 e9 ~/ }* Y0 M0 ~  Eleg down over 2009.1 X8 F$ L3 Q: H$ ^

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,. c7 c$ }" X, L) W4 h3 g/ |9 x9 s4 n
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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