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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics./ ^7 b; W) M2 C% _

& x' m( ?- w4 `' VTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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' t0 W' p4 N1 [The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ! M, S& s: }7 W) _7 U8 P
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 5 g! h' Z) ~$ \$ N! B7 {+ ]
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.& P4 e( Y( o/ T( ]7 E! Y2 j

9 m$ v- |) \! b: ?8 g$ x5 STD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.& B. Q1 p( u0 p$ u& f4 f

6 }. M" m$ g* s"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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! A& t4 y1 U. ^. TTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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& `6 j% Y# m3 F' VMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ; K7 p7 F* l. K5 p; Q/ c6 L* e9 o7 b
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,7 e% K2 _$ z% {' k8 h5 \  A

/ ^$ u; q. A1 P, p  s2 K+ d# P[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。- }. ?* u" ~% T- M, o
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
" s  G# ~/ H, U& A1 H跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

3 ^; ^* E& r, `+ N& h+ c/ @很多人都回学校深造去了% ^  P6 U9 P( V. y1 n  Q
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta9 K0 r+ M# x0 u' w7 f5 F
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
4 [! x1 [) r6 ]" d5 N/ d* ?boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton5 L2 a, p- }5 g7 n$ c& f
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
; t, T0 r. k5 K. o9 A* O2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
+ i7 Y4 E* ?% Gformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
; ~! d7 Y5 N$ {from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
* R8 X7 g) z, i& A: K& X) h3 {" Othe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and6 F& C% O; j8 [6 c8 n8 j. g* C4 E
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous" Z0 P0 G. l. y# x, R: J9 B1 C2 G
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed- ?$ f7 A3 H) a: R
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
% Z0 ?' |, Z, ^, P, ~/ @) b3 Sto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year9 ?/ c5 a) }6 B% l
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
( A) y9 S* W, U  nyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
0 ?6 n6 t& f2 G& s1 P9 hhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
1 k, R+ {  U6 D9 ]4 z6 t30,000 new households will form in the province during
/ _) j1 u( S6 p) j% i2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
! [8 ]/ I& ]3 d4 Q% CEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s1 \/ L8 N1 Q; t& C4 Q  O! ?
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
% N$ I  S; E: C% R4 nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta7 D% h- Y# _* W5 S: z
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new7 E" V$ B) \: E: d9 \1 c
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories3 A) I: w3 S4 k, X; B3 r% ]' I
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
( i' |( w5 \, T; ?( g$ Oexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
* u0 I1 E, e% N: t! u4 H1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
$ G0 M) U7 f0 v: H8 {" A5 Fsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive9 A! r/ k9 R4 O( Y- p* W
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in- O5 G' H7 o+ H( M- O8 J  B
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in0 n. p# o- M0 _1 T: B
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747& G/ @4 I% V2 ]- P. V" Y. S
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest' ^' j7 a3 G( v# I% ?& d
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the/ s& f3 {7 N  B6 w
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
. ?6 \' `9 H0 u1 a  D: G. eThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
  t9 `9 H, r% y; lboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.! S( n1 a* S  L$ t% a
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan9 |# m, }7 i  [" ^
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
0 `! ^1 ~- a6 V2 H: {relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale7 d4 f# [+ P- b6 }
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
% s. k; H$ Y% W/ o. C) kthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average0 W3 Z, W+ Z; D+ J" ~' B
resale price in February is evidence that past prices& p( M: q1 @3 p8 U
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove9 X) M4 i1 j6 H, c9 G" j
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’) _* G) l: w& X/ X, g8 {5 U
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,! c9 l8 f$ q, n# Q$ M3 v% v: X* Y
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
+ f3 s9 B7 ?* a! B3 ?Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. " `' F2 ]: ?, W5 g4 ~7 A
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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