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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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: R1 U; |0 @3 v7 L0 X# uTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. + F. [: {& m6 a5 ?9 K. H* ?: `4 w; K( H

. N" J) c6 R# z8 M" A5 K1 CThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ) z2 i0 y( r6 k

( F* \1 U% Q% u3 F% q/ O7 P! T"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. : t/ O7 e: ]$ V0 D+ ~( X% p

% @3 s. @* q' C9 |( k, X% QNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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+ |; Z3 \, W/ o( g8 j0 Q7 zTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.# b5 Y3 l8 |: q+ n! e6 c

) W/ c1 d2 a& `! b# z"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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# C  e& N% ]5 p- fTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.* g1 f/ U* z2 @% S  n! \
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. : p+ R. l% ~6 N! H

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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1 f2 O, S! `- n# N- F3 i& [TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
$ d0 z' m  r0 i$ d; J 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
1 B7 Q4 b: U* k3 I跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
, z* z; S1 p, C% n, d$ |( g- @Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its- B" s8 N1 z4 M7 E+ A. i/ D
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton" Q) U3 C% ?. D, ~
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
5 i5 q8 f* g6 T: G2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ D# A; m( m# K3 \' ^. Z
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided* D! c( m: A8 o
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,& }' u; N) e1 X5 [4 {4 ~' |
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and) B, L: T  @) X8 {
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous& ]7 Y) g6 ]9 I7 O! F4 v, G, z) F
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
! p' h; ]9 V8 D, u4 Rprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
. H* q' L$ m/ c) v3 uto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
! J! h' h- y( J( H1 {1 bprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
) I- N0 C& c4 ]4 a+ ryear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
5 T- ]; T' C& b; `  Rhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.8 ]3 u3 H# H: G+ E: ?9 t" f
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
( |2 ]6 v7 c: x$ {( ahomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%) x4 k  d* c, ~" G  ^  g" K5 I' M
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta0 z! B/ F: T+ Y
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new2 G) o- }9 t/ E8 V- k
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
, S2 _8 W, c9 e/ S" o- w/ Nduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
. {/ ~( W; q6 G! ?sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories3 x9 R3 T) I7 ~& }" \; {$ v( T; I
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is6 z8 d* G; h: |' P
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
  T3 T, B6 M/ l% Z" z! n" z1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
' v- T0 s" R( X) Ssales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive: V; x$ w8 G. S5 d& X' H
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in9 M: E  h5 Z4 f) p
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in8 u* ]. t. ~8 e. H& _! E
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747& c- L2 r* _! C! ]# b1 I2 q
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s+ I; _* L) m$ k
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories* s7 Z, p# `, K+ d% R: j
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled! w- ]& N0 M6 \% x; Q; u' H! L! O
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.* M& T$ ?' u3 a8 t
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s& m0 {6 E+ E6 w- K- E
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.' x! V1 ]4 V7 M# S* p0 R7 _
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan( t# j( M$ X# h
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even9 z: `* f4 K& A. |, z0 W, ?, T- S
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners6 B6 p. u' A9 x
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
# i! @, r* J- r( ]5 N' RThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove" X" c  g& E) }, Y1 q8 Y# k; B, s
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%' p2 _$ `/ j: m
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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; U2 H9 ^9 ]( `: u3 ?; F, H4 Y[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ! f, ]) x+ N. M" h
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子$ L/ V, c$ }$ ^; q1 R- P

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* C- M! D5 a4 r[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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