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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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2 ~% r5 {7 M: F6 p( |) D$ HTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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$ H7 ~# [* l. LThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 4 D9 s* H- |) W6 t/ Q) T! ?

, ~$ x; O7 {0 M, G. e% z, S' r* e4 j* l) Q"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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. ~) B+ b3 S* \TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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9 _5 D) B& s+ x0 n$ bTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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4 Z# ]& |0 L, G4 V+ o% f- bMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,* W6 O9 c. \8 w

) H+ u/ G# R( V[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
, p, n/ U6 s% C 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。7 t& I# G  J$ `

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
# X* l+ g1 O4 F2 L+ v# Z8 @跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

/ ~# C, r; P. S很多人都回学校深造去了* c# U; d1 v$ x8 z
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta: L2 R9 s9 V' L& S6 E5 ^$ ^3 V9 M0 ?
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to+ F3 B. J* @# R; D
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
0 w$ V: H' B$ I5 n3 e  Bformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- a5 d4 |' {4 z7 L0 A$ D5 P8 c5 jfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
* G$ r2 Q5 }4 s/ w' othe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
) g7 I( M" T' O/ T" H1 H3 Ymay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
- f5 E& f3 Y. z2 G2 l4 Y; G3 Tpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
' H2 ]: G% N4 s" ^! p. Qprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined! |$ \: B: o) o% a2 @" x
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year& U, M2 ]" b- Q% y7 Q- n
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this0 v8 a" v5 a, Z) @
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
4 }  b) ]( z4 x! R3 S0 S3 Phomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around) ~# H. U2 q" G# h; q
30,000 new households will form in the province during7 E$ k% j" |  l: m
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
) N' g2 W0 P' N' }Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
+ J, S, @3 K5 d7 I! U/ l" p" }homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
- j' W3 ~6 \3 b- R6 r/ Uduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta* S# z5 P9 k" D: L( y
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
, }: _- q( R& @. B; ^sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
8 [/ l8 X! L2 |! _' pclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
* N8 s' v- @+ R9 S2 @# Rexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
8 Y! g+ I% [! H. f1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a9 D: o# s. ]; I& T& F# P1 m
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive; l8 B- p) X# t4 g* w3 {: G
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
$ y9 |  ?9 S: vtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
* x! x; M- f9 Q$ S+ Tunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
. O# E& A3 `. I5 Q& n/ ?) Y! Q5 Tunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
' E/ [, f; z) g9 _' c  mrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the. a2 D* j  B. e1 n9 E" i
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
  s) t# ^1 [) |# qmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
: B5 _) ~* _! |" Z" s( Y' T/ tThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan9 m& P+ c$ @" E1 u7 U
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
  [. I4 K9 x$ \9 C$ P. ]* Q8 Hthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average' n7 S' S; U# ?( g  Y, c
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%6 v( }: H5 m- n+ {
leg down over 2009.2 U) O. j) U" R5 x# b5 Y. K# ?# [
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
& p6 [9 Q$ j# Q8 `Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.   m1 V, {. g4 T1 b% [: z: [
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子$ X$ t( P: o/ S( C, h
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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