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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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7 ~9 J$ Y5 s. vThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. * x# M3 K0 P- s* c7 \: T( f

$ I4 P4 J& C+ q"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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" Z, T$ E$ u' d, XNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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" l8 q9 k  [" k3 lTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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* ^8 l+ C" O5 U"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. # K# G* s! w) [1 w  a4 `. ?4 }

8 f: E5 f) {/ dTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 1 W8 j- }! f: O4 S9 ]
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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  w: j( j) t/ p! J0 i7 ~9 hTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,) B- A# k# _9 B# L4 t

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
8 [8 h7 g2 P8 P, t" O 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 / y# D. {" D$ M7 o
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta+ n' S* u# ^5 x/ I& E9 w; G
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its# L+ z& V( t) g+ R" r! \
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
. U0 K) R' N& B0 ~0 W. vare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
) [) P! {  }, ?# Z2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
0 V7 @& o8 T/ \. m; aformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided+ c- A1 u' B9 ]( w
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,' G% j6 F7 P% X& `
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
5 @$ l. W, _+ L' F: c2 umay even cease completely during 2009. The previous& m7 o( o2 u; I7 [' o
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed2 d& w% g6 [* X( q$ h" C! q1 B
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined% t) p. P7 o% N
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
; p) C) S' `  B  Uprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this: u  j/ U1 R' p) n& |
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,% k4 v" C- B8 j' P! l6 i: k
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
& `0 ^& w6 _; i) v+ R30,000 new households will form in the province during1 k1 Y/ P( @* X8 E
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
- Q; g+ @9 a" M/ lEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
7 [9 z% {2 ~- d9 }& R+ M/ S+ Bhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
. f. C0 R' |$ Dduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta! ?& Y/ G2 ^/ _. |. s! Q% x
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
2 Y! D! l8 x8 thouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
) [+ k, M. L6 L7 eduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
$ E- v% R, ?& g* {$ {) H5 E. H7 tsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories9 K  U/ o. h% r- o
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is0 Z3 W; c3 a3 R5 |. n' d* R) Q) P
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of& M4 R! V% j; a# [3 o# b
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a) s( M6 j; F: Q5 u5 H, ]
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
9 T6 o9 Y6 L# K1 \8 F- x" K4 c$ y( ~buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in. M' h) Q6 B3 y# q4 X$ ]% t
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
- F8 _3 G- z; f& c8 R2 Y" vunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747( m7 K( e7 ~. |
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
0 g4 q9 R5 j& W; p4 |5 |recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the  Y- x+ [2 M* a; o! Y9 ]
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
9 N  k# F* X9 O" M* u5 j4 vmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories# V* b) T7 f5 n3 Y5 q, {
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled' P6 D& J( `5 Z5 v0 N- N) R" m9 C
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.5 z+ X  c* d* G. Z
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
3 }0 p# K7 _6 E% zhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced7 `+ ]$ W# y( F  ?
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners5 P5 m/ u2 V& v' r
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
$ r; }5 r8 j* k0 t( N# tThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average6 a7 {4 R, V+ e# I  O
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’' m% K4 B+ {- H+ J
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
! q: @5 K& \8 i$ _6 t& D, h5 C" {. GAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
: s1 ]/ M- V# M+ ]+ Q5 x* C4 d; Bleg down over 2009.
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$ D& J2 R. ^" N5 ]8 h[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,0 d, i) Y2 s' p2 @/ f6 A6 P
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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8 H2 U" i+ P' ^+ X$ e! E- Z# Ohttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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