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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics." S. @' U$ k! ^/ A

; ]8 t! v7 }) f8 U! R% N7 d: W. xTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 1 ?/ a4 K1 C! z3 g/ ?4 h
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. & r9 U2 J2 J. j) j* O+ X

( N+ p! s) W+ y" T6 I8 ~& J* JNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.! C% O4 o  E, K. V. h: w. C+ ~6 l8 W+ r

4 s! j1 L. Q# LTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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3 h) W9 A: X' Z3 |) J9 a3 }2 D"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. & y/ b1 s) V: T. k4 i+ m

7 Z% u: q8 S2 h9 p8 S" [. JTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 _: a, d7 u' c( S3 f# I

6 ~9 g# ^' u- a6 RMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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3 N; S; m# T( J) R. J9 v0 g, YTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。5 z, }2 o* o) r
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。* o$ m: y' v+ q1 ?/ y& k

3 H* t, \" G" w[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
5 _) v9 }  u/ S/ ?  l跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

# H# L& J5 E* O* D/ p7 @很多人都回学校深造去了, B! ?2 d8 y5 z+ _, d8 ]) u
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
% s, r" C9 m) L3 PWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its% {2 Y! a4 Y- w# B& j: N  w  \
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton+ i" ]7 c, p0 Y" W; V  S
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to, Y3 \7 S1 [" f+ ]( l" I3 ~
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
- }4 r$ H. z+ n% c- ^formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided: B4 {) j% d) i5 X( O7 D; L
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,! t) z7 B: c; D
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
- Z  e/ I- R6 n, F1 P7 Z; xmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous6 t) E+ w6 E5 q7 c8 u  h, a
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed- B2 B5 L0 a1 k: c% V  b; K
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
3 ~1 L0 r' m; [" w, ^/ Ito 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year: m5 R- v3 q) b# j& l* ~- _$ a) a' I
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
4 x! V0 j5 D7 hyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,1 E! M- L8 p& {" t" h9 R) a: E" o
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
- Q: |0 Q& o9 o& q  y30,000 new households will form in the province during* |/ N" Z- r$ B, Y3 l2 I
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
6 [( H2 V# K% n$ fEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s% w$ U+ W+ \7 \  z: F  ^
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
. e$ U, t& w3 gduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  T. E$ r! X: ^
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new1 ]% N! P) j6 i& `" n/ i
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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7 T# W! [/ e1 }* g9 H6 Msales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
2 c8 @1 K8 U5 t7 m( R+ z" o1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a6 D- c9 v2 O( x* j; X0 d* O
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
: s# Q- ]$ S" l/ B2 K/ o/ fbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& @1 u& H, k6 y8 u, C
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
3 S" ^: W' \: S/ H/ A" uunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7474 |  ?- z3 R) o  I3 J3 k9 M
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest1 o0 Z0 X) E5 {' D) T# e# V8 G5 x# N) k
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the6 K0 m" Z+ `- G- F7 |) E
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s! Z$ ?; U$ X" _
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories! _. u+ Y3 c5 t+ ?% ~, S9 F2 R
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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& i* V9 V, t( NThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s7 k* P- {. h+ h  T
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.9 ^/ q, I3 [" v
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan! c! D# w1 k2 R  O; u
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
# A. W( ]5 `6 e& A8 vrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
4 S0 Y; v" a. [$ y  `prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
# Z, m* E# r4 D5 ?though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners. g3 p1 R* r8 X. x2 T
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.8 n0 T5 J0 N0 I: V
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
- N& y0 i+ W# J6 Uresale price in February is evidence that past prices
% B% M' _- I8 H0 X- s* y0 b+ H7 [/ cexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
4 C3 V) i- Z( k0 rhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’; p7 ~: {* S. z& y9 A7 U3 \
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 @/ ^* R# b$ E8 O2 n
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,6 K+ N. X! b, G0 A6 C( g
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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4 ]8 F9 _8 W0 x0 T[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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