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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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0 h! |% ~& F. S/ K  X' v7 ?) MThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. # _( D3 ]9 `" n0 a  E2 ^
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 9 U5 i& R# F5 t( v' z/ f" |
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.7 E2 g+ g# z. C% p% I9 o: |
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. & @  P' W" z* S  W
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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  B/ ]9 U0 I7 w7 X5 ?* C1 j' RMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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# d3 ]2 m2 S* w: @TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,5 V1 b+ i7 O3 B2 T" C

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
8 u) @7 E: p- k 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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3 v6 c* F% h* l; ^6 G: Y/ q/ r2 {2 V[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
) Z  `' y  g1 R  O2 W- n& M$ {) U; C跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its# i2 J/ {+ `$ Q, l
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,1 I5 Q% A+ G' r' z* F% `9 S6 L* O8 [
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and7 Q& _' X  z4 C0 H6 G
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
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precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this. G  q; L- s/ I2 y" y* g# U2 Y
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,: V+ q- E& C- K
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around. h* `) \2 e3 N
30,000 new households will form in the province during, |* n5 W& ]  b1 K: U( z
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%7 e1 U8 {9 S; L" E; c5 ^
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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5 l) u' S- n) G  p% a( T( {households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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9 {/ Y$ G2 ?( {6 ~sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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5 N; b, R* {- T2 }* ~9 Z. |excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of$ R( B2 m* v, C; y8 S+ c9 \
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
$ I" A* r7 g% K# y9 a" T3 @2 gsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive$ q  @1 m3 H" c; h! i
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in$ M2 L: ~6 _& G- P8 D% l
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in6 a5 o4 b  X2 s6 c: l" F4 C& O
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747% j, Y& D3 J! E; y0 r8 \. K0 L
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced8 A3 `0 V5 C# p- G
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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# A" j1 F3 o0 w/ b, Y& Y9 Q- gAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,  @5 Q5 ?1 j& Y' J" Y8 ~1 a- t$ g5 O
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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