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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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& T7 ]* c% E% S% W6 WTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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# m' S, m5 I$ H- V0 s- JThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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; C# e/ y- v9 e4 Z"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ' f' D- i2 I. E; }) H

: A% U4 `) H: J1 cNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller./ H. U% n6 \) b# C# c
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.$ U6 R% I. p3 \& J

: e# R0 S; B+ E"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 8 F& _: _3 a* h+ }0 p! m( C
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.8 }5 R+ g& M2 c8 o# Q8 |# U& m' o8 @
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
( l: Z  [6 t6 F3 g: Z6 D 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。! U: e( b. S2 z( A8 [5 I1 H
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
! A: m( _: v4 E* K/ k& [& g跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 F. }9 x) d$ j: {. X1 P很多人都回学校深造去了) `( ^0 e3 c2 t( [$ z) P
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta; D3 o. j3 v6 I* {6 d
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
  N8 }* D: y+ ^0 X5 U  m! l2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
4 @- O1 \1 N& h! G, ^formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
6 V4 y' p* U0 ^4 c: e) \from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold," v' ?9 u1 q5 z# v! o+ P
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and0 @% L& Q3 c4 e
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous3 q. V  Y% s0 U% X$ a  X, [; p3 E7 Z1 ?
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
7 \. b, G2 D; Z+ A" \precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.8 u( d* I* |4 v; a& ?# N! Z( G( Y0 c( I
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s6 c6 F& ?3 t" @& y
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%& [& W4 m; j$ [; P7 q
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta) x( E6 i( x7 R
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new" @- x% e; U$ `9 v/ q' o
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals4 j7 @! @0 g2 E2 y
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging1 r$ o6 _7 i" W: @
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories' q! A+ S; j; |2 N/ \
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is5 I9 n7 l) @" e: r
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of8 x6 {3 D/ F$ b  |  |* L5 b1 i
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a# H1 u+ m: I, [* }! P
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
% Q5 P- e6 o" h: e1 e& z+ i4 @buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
+ o* j/ E( _% j+ ptwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
. k- I5 c, J: j) h' wunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
- F# @- y* h% c" D( }- M" wunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
1 c: K& y" @" t4 a" H/ G0 Q+ Brecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the+ N% e% y- T0 @: W4 h$ c
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s& U% P9 A' o/ T
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories! ?! t3 Q* q+ _' d) W' g
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled, X6 v8 U, N' r- K- D5 s/ K
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.1 m. a5 L& K0 D3 l  G4 J1 g
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan$ q/ X% Z1 p9 R6 b" y+ p4 o
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
1 y! @3 S5 m/ q: hrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners) n) A, Z$ b; v8 Q( r
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.9 g( k" Q9 r0 d
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
5 @, }, t3 R; [- _# o: Sresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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# V$ f) A- a  L+ e% w3 zAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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