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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.9 w3 B0 C. Y! S( l0 q3 r

; a5 s2 a# J9 B, u: UTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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! E" Q3 b6 h+ p4 l& @% ^. R+ I$ ]The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 5 x* R0 T! _- ]9 V- N

6 E& J0 }. ~2 ?9 f7 U"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.' p( M; K' c3 i+ |2 L0 e- L

' j5 {/ _8 C, Y$ T6 r6 ETD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. $ G7 D% S3 R* m4 G2 R
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.! ?; `7 _' T4 C7 ~/ c) K6 `; B

# _* t0 Y; h+ QMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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+ \; V: c1 ~' D- w' {5 n# c7 A( uhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,7 E- w4 [9 L0 F; [* L# |

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。4 `$ g8 P9 r4 c2 ]
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
+ r9 q8 w( O! w- r跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

, f' l5 }5 n% [7 W很多人都回学校深造去了; C# b7 i$ ]3 m' N
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta! e# X2 `# W! \6 K' T: f( P
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
4 }+ s. U/ N( z0 [boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
# f7 o: k3 Y) e0 R2 u& uare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to3 ]6 a4 o# K; i/ j/ o
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household% f% [1 U: ^/ R# u" A
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
2 ]- H3 u+ M% @4 |+ Y! l3 Ffrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,% r% o( Q+ U; X& f% j
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and! s& {' f" b+ _/ t0 V+ U7 O6 H
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
2 ^0 ]9 b7 s6 n& V2 d, b0 dpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
4 V8 W  z' a5 }- T4 p, Rprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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, K4 a8 J3 S2 F& F0 \$ vprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this: T8 R0 U  |' ~7 @9 ~
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
7 b% ~* G( _8 V* c' ?homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
+ S8 |' r5 P2 p2 h9 d, f( T* r8 a30,000 new households will form in the province during
2 }) _' m2 R; \5 t2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.. u; p$ o2 C/ t/ i" _4 d! f$ C# l# `
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
* O: e- l; w+ whomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%4 I1 W: u' A9 |; y; d
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta, T' n% K  t* A6 j
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new$ N' E2 K: Q. o& O3 Y: G
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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* @8 F5 W4 u% l/ i$ H+ D7 Aexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of: J' g  T1 G* ^' K# M- t
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
& b2 c  L( Q/ b$ [- msales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive; q! N- L7 ]+ o9 a/ m* R3 X/ R
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
+ f3 U+ ?5 g: G; o* \two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
5 C; a! H# ?, X7 k$ E, {. Uunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
* Y$ y/ J, ^3 G% Y  {( D$ ounsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest  n  s! p6 h% U7 y
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
) f, P' p1 H( X& Gresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
/ c1 U  d  G4 b  T, q- \! ?# Smajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
2 P# @$ l9 Q' W2 S1 F/ r1 o( |The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s; Y1 O. Z8 L' z
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
+ A7 ^( O# U+ |7 o4 oAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan/ w4 ^. A/ Q+ x; q( {0 ?
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced+ V4 q' V  j+ O+ H" W3 A
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
9 ~2 _( x" S3 ~- D6 O- ron average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.8 m9 ]2 R; ?7 l, R) F
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average: N0 T. D7 ], h7 d
resale price in February is evidence that past prices' L6 e3 G( J0 c# R+ L8 [$ o9 c
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
' @. a3 W* L' |! E& }' mhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,: z3 W5 @5 X( e6 a( ]* e& _
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments! ]/ g( g+ p! y

+ _3 o/ A, O# w$ Y1 V3 u4 i, r% W[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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