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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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. q4 o3 M% Q  S- Z9 ITD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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( @3 Z) L8 u0 U"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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$ y5 {7 e/ E9 C; \" H' eNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.0 h$ G5 M3 e, N; [3 L0 J

! n0 d5 A1 j$ i: A. r; ]# K) [TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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) h9 t  ^+ K5 N. [8 tTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.   ]' n& k8 a3 j
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,8 g+ Z" ?4 w% w* f6 Q0 d: k
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
4 S) ?0 C/ m2 S% ]+ O. G0 A 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。4 z2 L1 }- Z1 s! n
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 8 ^4 y- g! j0 v) c
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

) D( D& {* @5 l( s  O4 W很多人都回学校深造去了
6 Y- W3 o0 {: q% H! o" s0 P嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" i2 o# e  T, P
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided0 L: T' J0 M2 _! ~4 S
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
& k' Q# W7 n9 o; \  Mthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
; y& W) X: [& @% |" ?9 Tmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous5 V1 r0 a$ r1 i3 B( j% |
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed, Y' d4 i" A. t9 s- g* B" Q& ]
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined/ U$ a* e/ ^% z  \; }0 f( F8 v
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year+ T8 ~/ f4 L" ?8 ?% F' P& K6 k
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around8 ^+ `; x3 L) J( N# Y: p
30,000 new households will form in the province during" B. E! K; l7 L* R
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%; g$ v! `( [- ~  }" c
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta/ {  W3 ~, f: P/ A/ @: l8 q! k  o
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
" |" {! d' {5 [4 y! Zhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals" p) E% A  g" {$ i/ [( g
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging+ c* j- ~  Z7 a/ X+ _1 }; p! D- d
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories+ Z/ L9 a% v5 X* ]) w6 j# Z( N
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
9 R0 _) V7 x. ^6 C, h% Wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of& `- Z! J. G9 c2 r! h  T
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a' V6 D. ]3 `& ]1 A5 G$ O
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
0 c. w: ~# i+ M' D/ Bbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
1 H$ q! a! w5 y1 \two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
( d, W% z; N3 O5 h3 A: D+ aunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
/ u& x! K2 M; I$ iresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s9 g! Y2 n, z. T% z8 C7 W
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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; M1 U& p( x1 y8 e" \' IAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan# ?+ ]! t1 f6 x6 i: C3 n$ {, `/ {
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced3 F' a, f+ {6 J; P6 v/ N& @
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale3 D8 r3 F! ~5 }: _4 r* t
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
0 H$ r( |( L+ d4 p! b8 S% BThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average; m1 ~+ \1 m$ E' B0 M! I7 u% O- G
resale price in February is evidence that past prices- w% r8 v; T( d' s% L
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove" E2 v8 o. E: q: ?$ W( e. |6 [& v
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’) G, T' J* Y7 ?) D: l' u
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' s9 d& N# r# w
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,* K5 X" Z9 _, I" Z$ g0 X* f
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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