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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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; o0 b) [1 b3 ?! STD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. / t. c1 D1 r2 S
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. + u& D7 b8 v; P$ L$ x% p

- }- h. X8 s* n3 j6 DNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.; g; Q* N* a, C: m
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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$ e* G8 {$ t9 r- i# D) v7 L  P"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. + T* c3 I: _: C+ v2 K$ Y" u& [; H
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,% ?3 l. }! ^- s9 f9 J4 k8 {, ~
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
. w" D. s) ~, O0 L4 ?1 F 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 0 A3 R+ K2 `" S4 G2 d$ ]# D) B
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta( ?8 _& D) @. J
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its& B2 {5 q7 ^9 A6 d4 D1 E  ]
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton/ R9 S0 r3 D* l5 h/ b4 u, A3 T
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to% Y3 v# B$ b$ Q% ~. ~! z8 N1 _- `
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household; J. \% Z$ p. Z0 t9 A- Y
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
; M4 Q1 e3 y7 b- d6 b8 Jfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
! p8 l/ V# z0 ~& v8 athe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and- Q6 v+ m; G6 s+ M7 l' J& {
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous6 L% Q9 d1 Q9 i- [
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
3 ~/ _$ a- i  A* O$ M$ e$ Uprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined, ?: y6 k# Z7 d) R& E, l: \& z9 s
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
/ e0 \6 \4 o$ l; _1 c% @% ?8 |$ ~prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this( F$ M, f, f4 b
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
, l3 ?7 x9 O1 t4 }4 Khomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%6 t, b7 ^: T" T- N
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals3 j$ E1 H/ I9 e9 A/ Q& w
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging# ^8 R  o7 C  Q+ X
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories8 @) Y! `" G4 Z; I
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is; X+ ^5 Z0 s" V9 m
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
: G: J4 s6 Z  \buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
( }2 B5 j8 e" W: N4 |& ^: Btwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
( o9 B: n2 x4 l0 r- ]" Lunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7476 v4 m, s( u* M$ v$ L
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 H' z8 o8 f- {4 c0 B
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced* p. B+ S" K/ V  v0 j
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners4 P6 ^- ~1 h, c0 X9 w& J  U
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices8 u$ q2 n- c: q3 t& x( Z$ e. [# K
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove! N" ]6 Z$ E: B3 ^3 W) U9 B; \4 H
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’! Z2 I9 s2 \+ q/ {
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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leg down over 2009.- Q; ~2 F- w, {9 T8 Q+ X

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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/ Y9 t( h, C- }4 c. v- I7 D[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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