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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.! [9 |$ N; W: [2 ]
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. % C% f- u+ ?( |+ b  [  f' f) Q

, C8 k; N7 f) Q5 ~% m! }; Y) HThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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" H- c6 j6 g; x1 Y* Q/ nNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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  V  D2 {6 k! N7 e8 Y1 \TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.: }5 G/ K# D3 [) m

) {% @$ C* B/ }/ y& K( S"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. $ ?% i4 g) @8 z7 ~$ V8 K: g% W
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.( e* x9 k( {( W
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. % ^: |1 B# r- x1 X, h
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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! i$ t; f* s7 hTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
  B: A& }: F. [/ k# ~ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 W. @. M( |) x
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

/ d; s: q1 Q) g很多人都回学校深造去了
* X' a' W! \3 ]5 R5 _1 `嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
' [  D, L6 C7 m3 C! Jformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
& m# d& h* t) @' Z3 h/ j. q0 c4 cfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,( m$ K; @( y6 ~! R
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and( V, |4 _8 I; i* s$ O& k
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous$ [9 t6 X, n( \7 L
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
5 Q/ r; D" @  P0 s$ Xprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined7 D8 Z& U# M2 b" O# I% ]2 t
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
; `. ?2 K# t% c4 f1 Uprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this) d0 k( Q1 b6 K8 a' q
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
/ Y9 {9 t- T% M' i- J6 yhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
$ W6 u  L- k, M: `30,000 new households will form in the province during  m1 i4 S4 I+ J
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
& i2 T5 k4 e( pEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s1 R: U. y$ g- v4 m7 [" r
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
1 b. C( V9 V, g6 c4 Qduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  b0 o5 C/ ]# W! f/ W4 R: G( I; p
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new3 c4 A. L9 Z5 P$ Z
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
4 H, z8 B% @; M" k- G  ^8 z, mexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of6 l1 q+ N: l" x; C& R4 a' t
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a3 S9 O! j; |9 i. ~
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 S- J% Q2 g& g2 q1 E+ N
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7471 V5 Y) }/ K% W# j; [6 f) I2 d
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest& S0 n, v# o1 M
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the8 |4 A4 N" \+ D) @) a* {9 i6 h. x
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
6 X! \; A3 X* L+ N! a" U8 x/ Rmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.7 D, _( L- s% ^- s
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
, S8 ^! @. O% V7 f3 A3 |boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
+ @2 _: l" E+ ?3 Q7 }4 Q% OAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 Z2 K- A1 X, j9 V4 Q8 t" Qhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced4 W7 A2 Z# o1 l6 @/ l
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
/ ~4 n+ {6 h% e) b* ]+ Bprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
# g9 X$ p' _, e, O3 Hthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average) p3 J7 E* f; F
resale price in February is evidence that past prices" u5 j. d2 ^- E0 h/ d, u: E* s5 h& S
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
. V5 }3 v9 @9 n) Xhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
% R1 \. i! T! u, _% P8 I# I% Jleg down over 2009.' I( L4 K' X: i8 m5 I, H# B

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ! z5 `6 u, Z+ |7 q! T# a8 b
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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" }" h* K! b  ]; y+ chttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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