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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.$ h3 U/ P3 r' j5 \: Z

# r- ?6 v% i7 h$ ~3 D8 iTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 0 c. y5 m9 B  _0 h8 i3 _* ]

, Z. K- x# c0 K8 D! p) l"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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0 C5 Z; h! g8 A0 k" pNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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( d/ C: }- d- w! L) c# i0 HTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.7 f+ p# N# ]' {$ q" `$ N. z/ ]
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 0 s, t% b( A& h2 e% x

+ n, {8 u0 m+ e5 b/ v- L( r" qTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 V3 x/ i' x: C/ I& N) c
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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# u+ u" L0 N' f7 D2 I- t& i/ S[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。- t8 X& t+ Z) L& Z/ T7 p8 {9 M
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。3 r2 F$ e$ d8 ^$ S5 G/ S. }

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 0 }/ A! |  d$ e& [, j* u* r- @, B# |
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

9 y1 h2 G0 u" h( n很多人都回学校深造去了& p. x: R3 {' P- y
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta. i5 Z  A$ L# J6 e
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its$ t7 e+ C  `2 Q! a/ |
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton/ _* v) n& k% G+ X4 l/ {; J
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to* K$ ^( v) a& n
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household7 |% y0 u0 @9 T9 h
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
$ e  Q1 A' p: J$ B% f! _* sfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,- F# {5 i6 Q- L9 S
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and9 O* d! P2 t/ T& F3 Z0 F& Z
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
% v4 d; u) x4 Hpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed7 }& h- ?; }. ?" `' u; ^0 {( r  i8 \
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined  X# S! n2 G3 x
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
2 s: M; ~2 h- d- mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
. X& N% [9 J5 W* T; o30,000 new households will form in the province during
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5 X' x, e6 B3 C3 YEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
' i) y# g% Q: P4 i1 thomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
& P# o! F$ A' {; {3 ^1 R$ @during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta& N5 e, x& J" H" o% G+ J/ U
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new! _3 ~; A& w. s4 ?
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
+ L. h! f! T' K. u3 B" t; l% P# Mduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
2 a1 z7 U+ {+ e: y- `sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories% r% u' p. A7 J4 K' T% `- y0 q1 d# Q
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is* T( u; @0 d# m" c
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of5 m1 X* Y0 s7 m2 \( j, ]
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
* n$ x) K4 K( Zsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
6 b( [* W, Z' C4 {0 ^! @. h  ibuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
# Q& o& G- S& O1 L1 @! u& N# D2 dtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
( Z: i. v: S" Q- gunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
8 o2 T2 N; d. G- }! f* Lunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
5 S! X. J, R+ I8 C0 ]4 _# drecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
+ c9 v( R$ B$ u0 x# mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s, N  F, B8 ^" u5 E. _- z
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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3 j, M; X# D" Y/ T9 \3 jThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s  f7 R0 y( l0 C8 l) C
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
" N4 `" V3 P& I8 F4 u$ X) s$ QAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan8 @4 N. Z4 M- G) n" K; a* X! l
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced$ V7 T/ o! t6 [: K3 \, C
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale( k. _1 g7 C- a$ f
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even$ b8 _8 U8 S2 m: O2 G/ w
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners  c: J7 m# |# Q
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
4 y* n3 `) F2 K1 E4 k+ |The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average! p) x) x$ v$ H) o7 X- Y2 ^2 W
resale price in February is evidence that past prices" f8 `, }1 p8 O6 q/ X4 }, h
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove- |& \% s! `' B; i$ e
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
4 j* ]( Q' F! qdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
4 A  b0 H- z/ e6 I$ ]* I$ ]8 kAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%/ V  Q8 t; B& I1 r6 y6 ?
leg down over 2009.
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 5 ~* r8 l! T7 t: [
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子- E# x( Y, ]# Z, W) d7 n7 l3 G( A+ U9 M
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