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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics." n. Q1 j% w2 R' e2 G, ~

% T+ @' x. T5 E+ bTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ( K4 S( Q7 [6 }2 G! x! b- \
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ! S  _# r. l9 a% Y4 W$ W" f( T: z% l

) t8 |- s5 z" kNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.. d/ }' a* ^, b

' v% M+ t+ J2 ]9 U; E! a3 {TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 1 Z# j( {, S4 S" r

5 `! p" v! }2 nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,1 n: h# m/ h3 P# I& S

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。+ j; [: H  N$ U3 K
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。% P7 R- n$ j6 k7 v5 v' S
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ) L  w6 P1 g5 i( q7 r; C
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

4 w- J+ A% m% u  R1 y很多人都回学校深造去了- m/ |5 X+ |+ b6 }- Z4 q& T, b/ Z: Q
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta0 u, _) f" q3 M1 D8 b$ w, T
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its. S! m2 U1 x1 Q
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton- G2 Y& Q; W- h; s! W/ r, O
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to- K) ~* r) x* l6 P3 Q# e7 S6 U0 S
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household; t# n4 e& P, v. F  }; j
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
; x) @+ ?- H( \1 B: i, Qfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
6 D$ D" w7 e- I" h, i) nthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and) o6 h) G- T0 }. s- @% i. {6 x( \
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous0 p( l. ~! z, ?+ @# A# W6 a: {
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
, j9 z/ L- E0 l  q$ P) L; b6 Cprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
9 [8 P( ]% x9 q$ c" p3 J/ @( {" q; nto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year/ x, ~$ L# ~6 u, P, Q9 v
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this- B% I5 I$ F6 S& t( G: c
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
9 V+ i' R$ e7 Q9 Zhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around  Y+ u1 o3 V! g5 n# o' B8 M
30,000 new households will form in the province during  [3 V$ O7 o& ~
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year./ n: y( K6 h+ ]$ _- K4 M
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
, }0 t* I: W1 ^- Thomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
7 u! f  [5 x2 ^3 Vduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
. r3 y* g# `  khas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
1 t; C! E; j0 i: qhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
1 K3 L% K. U# \7 M% \8 Y5 ?clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
; H; b5 E/ v7 k+ O* O7 E5 vexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of! v" S' Z0 j+ l. G
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
& F" m: f4 z4 v, ?0 R: C6 csales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive* W# u' f; g" M' `) |& D
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in  Y- Q. t/ Y* p
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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# l/ N$ C1 {. K! c9 H4 b3 zunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest" \- I! F+ ~7 d! p/ M
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
+ s+ n" I8 S2 D( rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s; S+ t2 D! h0 G) l; H
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
4 ^& L7 ]& t9 gof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s$ N/ F, e$ N! O; y2 u* p
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.& h) c! H# E0 g4 I
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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7 ^+ O; z5 w# c4 D1 B# frelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale% E2 T( @5 q  M2 B
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices
( D$ @- O6 k) J, v+ ~' g" Wexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove# r5 L" w5 ?" f/ x2 w
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’" n1 t1 C' n& F- q3 H
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,# N9 S: V; D4 C# W7 o! R
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%* b7 ~" W' M. S/ x+ u$ v' D* Y
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
4 Z+ U& F* W' [# J; r) G5 tAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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4 R/ N" `' _: C5 N[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ! C9 |( P" X# a( ]  k( Q% @- f
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子) R/ J, q/ T+ Z3 m9 l. h. `6 l

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' Q8 H* M# L  A) y- X5 n[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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