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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics., ^0 o1 D; V' T% y9 r

# ?* Q& S  B4 ^, yTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ) p" F: L- `6 d9 F; Y  z

. i1 P+ w$ {% q5 F8 n' xThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. " z9 M7 H2 F2 G

1 @0 b6 c3 z: i4 _. n3 F- ]"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.3 C. t+ S) ^8 x% Y7 {. U) s

' e/ n: y* @* W. J6 b( qTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  e4 Z) D8 T  E+ I. v6 _/ C

7 P/ \, c1 H" X4 \1 T"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 0 v4 S. O9 l2 j# H1 x' {
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 9 Z5 d# D4 g+ f" f, o

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
' u- @8 ]/ Y6 K, C& `. [ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
! U$ D8 w8 b0 V; R) `跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

) X& P# z# ^& o8 t* n. e8 _/ j7 Z很多人都回学校深造去了. X8 h0 A# C3 R8 w
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta0 f, W$ q2 ~% O1 A
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its$ n% x5 V; O) R, g* ]( X+ F4 U
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton# O0 b( m$ C6 g9 j- j- n! v
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to/ b% z. d2 F  m, D
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
5 c" @) K6 S0 lformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided# N( i/ j( ?5 s. _$ ]$ M( a
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 p$ h5 p& b& Y6 q$ }9 S$ N. d
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and8 ]! I5 [+ M$ N
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous0 Q3 H# x+ ^) T) k
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed! ]% ~% W7 ?) {8 k) U6 _; k
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined1 w0 a6 [) T) H1 L
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
0 g' i3 k& N) ^/ O( q1 z& C5 Hprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
" q0 M( a0 \$ T6 G3 e; X; qyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
9 N# E* {1 n- ~5 |1 Qhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
/ z" _3 @8 ]) Q% o+ y30,000 new households will form in the province during( w1 Y! C2 R7 W) \
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.: o: @, n5 i, u9 g* d  {/ _
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( j: f! a, @+ @- l
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
) \, ~- \  e# @: i0 E1 a/ J& O) r$ jduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
5 M) Q- l+ q2 K" i! yhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
4 o1 C/ u6 [" ohouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals, Z- s1 Q1 X2 f0 S
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
  G* w! \% ]  ^sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories, {4 u. v( l, N  g
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
& W. |4 T- Z# V* z4 fexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of4 W% L& E  s: U
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
" ^8 A+ |  {) u: P7 y+ `% Ssales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive% f; Z- c: ]+ ~. Y* Z
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in" \& A+ l  l( a6 z$ j
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in. H2 F% s/ t( I( a# g
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7477 [  {0 W+ s' _' c' T
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
, S0 c+ P. z" ~- Frecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
4 w# }3 B  \  ~0 Wresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
0 T" _4 ?! ?7 E2 Z5 Lmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
3 e% T. K& U" c, d  Uof new singles, and, with demand having cooled1 S: f  @5 J% Q: |# r
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.$ N  F  q& U; q, \- L  T$ S
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 O4 z7 d5 B5 H  \housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
) b1 d, x1 c4 {+ _$ srelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale$ k& {# S& Y0 z% V/ A, \
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
+ ~% c, J- l- z2 t5 m( ithough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
. o: B$ n/ I0 }: q1 O! V/ Von average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
. Z) K* R5 B7 FThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average3 I/ V' G4 ~8 v6 R: Z
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
! C8 P( f' d" l! R* k5 [/ Lexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
8 F0 l6 P; v+ z$ {homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
5 O# G4 ~# A1 X* p1 G% P' Cdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,9 u) S% H; |5 Z" h7 ]" m5 _
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%3 f" P$ t7 k) S
leg down over 2009.* O/ }& y* ?' g$ J

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,2 G( A. b8 `8 i) K. N1 X- A
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 8 p( {1 R+ l( ?7 {" |  A
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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