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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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  j8 \5 o$ z6 G# pThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 2 i% W5 t8 X! ^6 k  M' P/ J

* B+ M) Q, X( m, Y* l8 z"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. - i, L9 \6 Y$ p
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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$ n+ i( u0 @* o' u$ I"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year./ k" @$ y' y) W1 p+ Q( \6 i3 T

; `1 g: G) T% J; ^. t! K! }% `Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,; X1 y' g3 R; V; s

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
) B* \  T  t9 A0 B6 X% Z+ p' v" \& ^ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 3 q/ L8 i2 c! K( W! x+ g& M- z. G
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household5 J+ I! L; \: Q" q
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided# ~2 K9 Z5 Q4 f! ]0 m7 O
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,) T) n# L' m4 y& R3 k
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
9 N1 Y; ]: a4 o. Z) r4 g* Wmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
: q3 I- k. N% Wpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: ]$ J# R% X' U7 o2 l" j9 |! `precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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30,000 new households will form in the province during1 Y7 Y; x# }8 }7 C
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.  u) I$ r8 U& u4 \- W
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta" q+ p4 A" q% w: v7 |
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging; u: [0 P: p8 J: R3 A! u( z
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of5 o) b% W: ?( \0 T6 X) @0 d) Y- l
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
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buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in  s  X9 i" _: X) q$ L2 }6 J: ~
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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$ A4 ?4 A  A7 p' presale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s4 i" r" P& v* U& D
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories6 v4 b/ K) L: c
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled6 D2 a+ M* l* }- k" G
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
$ k" H: c9 r7 ?2 s6 y: tAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
  v- D0 ?  y8 R. h! O) G' ^( fhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.- R& L* V! @( z# ~4 o" e& `
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average5 ?+ a/ t" d5 b/ J. I) S  }1 w
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%' K& U  l  u) M/ S# s4 |
leg down over 2009.% E, A- x$ q5 @  B) b; v
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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