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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.! ^8 }) _% W2 e2 z: E

4 _- L+ W. s6 ~1 W' xTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.! ^+ j. q; B0 Q- e0 z
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ) x) g; n1 K* I* Y* |1 Z

9 A7 r- \% T1 ~) ^! @TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.! }: K/ e8 ^+ W' K$ i5 d  R

" E( m$ a1 F0 {- h& s% k  B1 aMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. " \# V0 E0 W$ d# ?

% U8 Y% T6 z9 Y: `7 ^$ a" S- lhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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2 Q8 K: h5 l) B1 n3 I' }: UTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
$ R) \' i/ S& p( ? 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。/ t7 C2 @, `. Z% y' U5 C# a

" C0 {. [* t( o% Z1 H% R$ T1 W[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
7 i6 c6 \( s! _- k1 t7 q( u0 _# X跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

6 I/ i# e0 u: R很多人都回学校深造去了8 c* Q  ?; f7 a  D1 B
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta( \; a' N$ f0 O; H" b- \, W
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
- d% F5 d; ?( S/ u/ D' vboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton9 J, g3 l+ q1 @0 h
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to  P6 v! o0 P+ Z# `8 y* g) @. s$ x
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
  d/ ?. {1 A  ^6 Gformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided& b7 i) i5 X% y3 i( ~
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
( X$ p  |; T/ x% M+ q/ Lthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
, o+ j, A8 |( r+ R$ `may even cease completely during 2009. The previous9 s, p6 t7 l6 ?7 Y0 h3 D% B
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
$ [9 q4 t  Z; T% v8 Q* {) t1 ?precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
( X4 s' n5 V2 K3 A: K# ]" P  k$ K4 Zto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year- s+ B# T# \% H
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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30,000 new households will form in the province during, g" k# j8 o  U5 x3 P' Z( W
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.9 V  f; `2 k/ H  G3 `3 W8 k  N2 S
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s- a7 k  E, v( T" `# g( x, I+ w4 J
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories$ x8 Y$ G& H! c) J
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is7 U6 v. P+ m1 e4 Q# u
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of# s% K$ y. W; Y0 @* s
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
& i# d: p) o. E( r) f8 H: S7 v- isales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
3 w) c$ m7 Q( j* t4 Q, E* h7 Ibuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
  m; |/ U% J# x' F7 Atwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
' G% b6 }" l- N/ G! uunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747' o" S) U, q- G- ~$ Y7 K/ L6 C
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest) W/ P1 p& A5 z! C
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
9 Q0 z1 C9 k" P2 x: N  @/ lresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s* W! X+ o  L% {" S$ S
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories, x; `/ h9 a- A" P3 @, [! ?; x
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s  I( M$ j# \' r& C, J6 j
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
  X/ E1 X( ~3 C6 W- }- qAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan$ o, X" h4 n# n8 {
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
" V, @; Z3 x6 A/ U9 Jthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
( O# ?! o* r6 eon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( f) U# x3 ~/ e3 b  j1 n; n
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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8 I2 V4 c. V, [& Z# }exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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7 c- s" Z" H# ]+ m% O' j$ Hdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
5 U+ ?/ ~5 H0 {/ r) t! |Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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% [  j7 p  b! X  h) A[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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