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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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! U) D6 {1 K& }, `! m+ p5 D3 XTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 4 E& j- t* E% D7 z# v3 x" b

4 ^/ F% {$ p5 f* C6 IThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. : ^7 d+ G# C: [' e0 V- c8 t
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.' ?- e) g5 Q/ g: i$ V$ g- U" a
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.# Y/ V5 ^# S3 S2 T# @5 W3 f( z

4 M- T6 `0 {2 Y; d"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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$ y' U; ?5 h# c0 JMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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5 Q2 B9 p$ R$ e! p5 Thttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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- W' o& B% M; |; H, Q" }TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。) }0 ~& l* a# `/ y
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 7 p! `7 S; H6 ?* Z9 {% q
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

) v" A0 y8 f0 L# e很多人都回学校深造去了
2 d) h2 p$ Z' w& X' ?  ?嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 U/ @$ g8 ~3 ^: @( w3 OWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its5 B: H7 T+ D  L
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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# o1 `- Q: R  l0 G$ |) G7 X. ~2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household# f& c- a2 G  h. \
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
: k% T* C0 H8 x; _from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 l3 P9 j/ c# D1 O- v5 v! q6 v
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and/ }# _/ @" M5 q0 h- y/ D2 ?  I) q6 q2 M( L
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous7 l7 E! F% r- ~- F3 ^/ F
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed# c0 Q, f/ a# t3 F3 [
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
- V# g3 }8 y& G) q  L0 ~, F* U, Fto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year( b; A: _7 I3 t  x  s$ }- B4 Q
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this; ^; F; `8 Y* I# ^7 m
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,* |( p# g1 o2 P9 B5 g
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around, t) {% k3 [/ t$ W
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s# Z7 J! r4 H3 E* @
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%5 d7 {0 q; j/ H* M9 ?& ^3 P
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
) j9 ]; S. `" x( [has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new+ s4 V$ T, f4 f: t
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories0 v1 B" G7 K" M. C7 C0 T2 R& O
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
. J" s  Z) v2 R7 O& w, Lexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of: b9 L2 _" N% F
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a+ S& c" Y  E7 x+ ]
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive* P. B* i& i. i2 G, E. \
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in4 ]( ^2 w9 e7 D+ F/ B- L
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
% l) m  e4 q0 A: Dresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s6 A2 y2 d' ^  J+ t/ K8 c3 V
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories, G& X# a- b: K& }: `
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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, S8 c  o  ?, q+ O* b0 BThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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) {) v( ?1 ]/ |1 Z- zAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 E8 T7 B6 r! x; M* l( vhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
3 K8 O1 M" G( F6 ]$ crelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
& W2 e1 x6 [7 Wprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
/ Y8 H8 g' F" M& }# Q% q3 @/ v; Vthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
6 Z" Y" k: K! Y( q* Thomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 Q$ J: X: z  w2 p0 s2 j; _" \/ \
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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5 b. M- i+ h; F( ^  v% z7 i" b[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. % [  Y9 v2 U2 X! O9 h8 O  B( v
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子% N8 h+ e. M7 P8 S7 f& I
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments( g3 t, H! o2 u" G5 u

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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