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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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% `! C$ [$ m. p* B- V( jTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. $ u! f7 l9 F) R( e8 Q) @( ?
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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" U: h9 f- |( R& b7 f" g"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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3 i, A# j* O+ N' ^# w7 |; ITD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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# `" Y0 X7 i* Z"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 4 ?/ @, }0 X1 P
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.0 I' Y4 g) y5 W
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ! c3 @4 {6 i0 |+ P

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。8 q4 y+ u1 C% L8 r4 d
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。' x% \1 o$ h  ^% g7 U9 _: v

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
1 e; K/ K8 [3 q7 W2 j. M跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

4 M/ z6 U+ s* \$ C! }很多人都回学校深造去了8 p! @9 b7 K/ `$ t. _7 o
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its- ~8 Z& U  }5 c* v' v  G5 _
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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; S- Z& s7 X/ _2 P2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
- Q& m, s& S5 }( tformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
9 i# V' p/ g& B9 J- W: Yfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
, C0 S; F5 Q+ I! l' gthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and3 q# u! [) A/ |( c8 c$ J
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
) `- Q! r! q- d& p) }pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: n( h& T( Y3 f" [  tprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
3 T8 ~$ ~1 ~1 H2 ]4 R* L( Gto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
& o5 J2 D8 N) D+ C2 ?prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this) ^/ S9 g  v4 w# |7 Z) E7 G4 m
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,, R; |4 R0 n/ \: {
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.0 d# a8 l$ M5 c. i
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
' t; M0 J) y: Y2 K5 F' [. J; m% thomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%" H) i- G3 A1 X# H! U3 s
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta6 P# h! ~' n" s) [) @) g8 ^! k) Y
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging% b$ R7 L5 b* O% |! A0 r+ g
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories/ }- W9 Y5 Z4 K1 H* I" x
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
4 L9 D" X* M! q3 U( K  V" H5 Pexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of( D0 e  y8 C3 x8 G' j# I$ x1 m
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
6 q( a2 E) a- {, L7 H. h+ Z) _2 fsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
' K& d9 L+ i, b# j* V5 z, [+ T4 Gbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in8 ^: a$ r1 G! v( O
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
. P7 c/ w5 [% i+ L6 M, aunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
; d3 P5 A' m. D4 bunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
0 h4 A6 Y& a4 G/ N& x9 Precorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s/ ]* ?5 U, t3 y
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.4 G3 Q  C* A/ p9 k, N$ m& P$ m
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 w* s* P9 k0 U& \housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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0 l+ O2 d6 s$ `/ T% F' Aprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
0 w( p2 T5 p5 A5 d, r9 ?though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. $ a" u9 o% V8 S
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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