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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.' L5 B' |" v1 _- m0 O3 m, i, d
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 1 H& L+ e- g) g5 \+ p! ~! @

; i: ~' \5 U% e5 cThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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' w+ S; p7 t& h& b  v; j/ I" W"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 1 d( y' T: J) f7 w; j$ N4 x0 h/ ?
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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& L' p& I: b* ~( [& j& WTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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- L/ D3 ?4 `  l/ ~8 B$ h9 o"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ! w  E) P$ C; p9 [' s7 D
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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+ n- ?  L9 q3 o! J* D* }( KMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ! b' P2 l& `6 P5 t- b
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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  g9 o& T! G3 ~# KTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。* K9 a7 n& s# X2 m9 u
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。, j: _9 M$ X" |3 l2 n9 l! f9 F

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ' g! B# t+ s$ M, {
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了9 C. c9 e( J5 z5 H* X/ I, G
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta7 T6 @( N) Z- t: P' f3 T+ U/ R
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to$ [5 I' V& G& G. `7 h: [5 I9 f
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
  B" q5 [, ~! A2 }- cformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
) L/ B1 F" |3 S! J$ t  Z; H( R4 mfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
6 a" ^0 ^: u* t' J# u2 R) dthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
# L9 T; Q0 O; _. m: q! W1 y/ A( Z5 dmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous6 ~+ Q: b, y! `8 _
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
8 C" @7 l1 ~; g4 y, vprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined6 ^9 y- i; r7 S' {/ P8 ^( A
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
) ?' E. ]* ~1 U- {; eprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
9 F8 e: h( s8 X1 E# S$ Syear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
# \8 _3 V4 D$ M; h6 C# Nhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around: E5 m7 ~. K+ m0 q. _
30,000 new households will form in the province during' T. F# g, q  Y2 l0 X$ X- t
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
1 v0 n# J% F; A) e( }* |! a! _Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
6 S  D# q2 ^" S  Lhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
$ O4 R. \( M- o6 Nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
% a% M/ s, A6 J. \9 Y  Fhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new7 Y: @1 ]( B$ U- U! b
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals& L. d* L, W. e1 Q, w
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
8 {* @0 \/ Y" d, Yexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
0 B+ p6 G, [- A1 Z2 ^buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
& e4 P  U* {) l% r6 m- Jtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
- `0 Q+ ]( F  cunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
  l8 J0 F- f9 ?/ g' ~unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
% U# H$ [* ]5 g+ rrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the0 J: C2 I# C, \# ?/ j( U* D
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
  J6 ?+ F/ A$ r% S; ?2 t7 ?major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories9 y" X) \9 Z& q& A9 @
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled9 n  j/ Z* y1 _5 b: r( I
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
0 {' y+ W* C7 I, C( k+ \The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
( @$ s3 t9 Z& G( O7 U/ m. hboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
) f2 H$ O; t) U. Z+ dAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan! K3 A! L5 ^+ A1 ]+ B
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
2 s0 H( Q# r- hrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners9 P2 A" o* _! ]
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
  n7 ]9 X% f# l8 sThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average+ J& M) t$ s* c- s# W
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
# ]1 X! n" W- @# V7 j: G3 j3 pexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove" K& `2 ?, p6 ?; @6 G. e8 s: w- N
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’! _1 a9 G, ]1 d4 P
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,6 y/ [8 \5 ]( W5 @7 R; z7 m
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%4 s7 I5 g# k( R5 F9 |/ y4 f8 u
leg down over 2009.- W  {" l0 m* }3 @/ Z
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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