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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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- h2 N" [0 m: U# y( j+ m; S. hThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. # m7 i% J4 j1 ~/ {2 k' z- y7 w6 f
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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5 G$ C) s- h3 R( tNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.7 B  \6 C' H% f3 \5 @" Q! S

1 ]' ^5 v  G2 p4 K- t8 |/ w"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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0 s; K2 W: u* r/ Q5 S; jMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。5 |, u; ?  X! r
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。; ~1 X; i& Y5 `9 L' [# E! o
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
3 R' W& G2 N; B  C. g# C$ Z9 q跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
" V* Z9 y0 ?" |: J9 z% [Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
+ Y( ]+ ?0 e* K, dboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
# A0 m; B2 o% ^are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to" k: x; e( ]" d. M& G1 H: x
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
* w: Q) y) n7 h0 U: |8 {% bformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
# O/ ]+ q8 q/ s6 {# N6 {from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,; z/ u# ~9 Z" q7 K- r
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
, u! _/ Y3 @( b8 d7 Kmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous( x7 Q: C0 _. O- {& F1 m
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed! E6 x# d7 `) i2 `9 Q
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
) v! D1 A' J5 F- L0 M' G! mto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
% E( _8 u# m2 W. X, D! ?* Mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around! S0 F3 {$ f7 S+ j
30,000 new households will form in the province during' u3 e  S7 Z/ [0 J  H& A- b, b
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.! O, B9 f! k6 D/ n
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s3 u3 ?& i7 V! z
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
1 V: y4 S/ I" A. }5 h! W  X4 J8 D& pduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals( p* C1 a8 ?) s$ m5 j. X& l3 {
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is- `: h7 \2 L& H
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747! l8 e, A- `! Y( \" U: }# `: B
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest: r0 ~6 B5 o8 A+ \4 E- |
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
" z! `4 Z5 k+ B: c" o% \resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced3 `7 f+ `$ P$ M4 N; e/ A
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale' x% {2 [9 a, I" D# E; e5 x( i
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.7 r" q5 t/ O* [/ M: I1 p
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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6 K# d: ^8 k' [' q& z& h! MAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%  H" F4 \0 g/ D5 W! F$ z9 P5 }
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 1 W3 l* H- v3 X& u' n* N& Q9 J
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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