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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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" D5 W8 I3 b3 E- Y* s. XTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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0 l/ R4 X: E) O& j: Z1 QTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 2 m9 @( L& K. k. K

, W! j8 P5 X1 L1 X7 D5 fTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. , W2 E, T8 J' T3 v& i& P

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,+ P7 ]0 {0 `* B! C& G* G
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
1 {; _, }% q: ^* c 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。  s& L' W: v9 f: O; _

6 _5 ~" L9 |& ]; l% c8 C6 v' X[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ! i6 l; v+ h4 T( V
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了9 i' G& _# n3 r+ Q* r
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta- L$ P" Q0 o3 |8 a; {/ i. i
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
  d7 M3 \/ g8 v* N0 g( Qboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
) L, e- y% j- c; S! ^3 ~1 Vare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
  D8 d3 O' _6 V  x8 \/ a) G. m2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
1 h# ^% [, _+ e4 N# K: z: wformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided1 A: x* B. N/ n3 o9 u
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
: ~2 e2 c' y8 x* rthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and. o/ J+ i, c& C9 w/ r7 @8 n; u* M
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
+ N! z0 z, `& h4 N& Mpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
* O0 Z. h* F9 H+ `5 Wprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
. K; @, m7 \& Tto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
) S9 b  M9 j5 F5 q1 M2 O  Uprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
# k) N, i+ O* r3 l1 P8 D. Ayear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
7 q! @+ j3 c1 T# H; _5 e) p" b( chomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
7 C1 [, `% L4 F7 @4 B" ?% R' ?( m6 l30,000 new households will form in the province during
9 @$ _* V7 v& K: c1 P2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
7 O1 b0 }# R! [( W4 {; qEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s- i  Y. i3 ]* g, z
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
8 U, `! r9 R0 ~5 yduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
6 P( J9 [7 L9 }: `has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new' s; Z7 V1 A) p; H6 S
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals0 y) v# f# I8 F5 t7 [% i
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is+ \  ^7 ^" S, ^; q- I
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of4 Z. T2 U* q" `# R
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a  n8 ~3 @' C- e4 G6 B
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive: N  q7 G( l: w
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& _5 d) u0 w; O8 W" @% g( L
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in/ U" ~9 e8 E* h. Q2 `3 K5 _9 H. t/ h
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
8 d3 g+ j- e2 x/ t  y7 o* f  G. A1 Wunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
2 N+ f- p' }5 F. q' Q4 ?+ Q5 _/ Frecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
/ o3 z0 ~; x$ d! y1 l* Qresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled! J' H; z+ n0 I; a
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.' {: T( e- D, h
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan& d9 B! h3 r9 G) C5 E
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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8 D8 l- g$ Z& B: B6 W, c' Eon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.  g8 v5 I0 K( S5 F
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
6 k4 \+ u: f9 q  y7 i' gresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’( n" d4 h) T( \5 t
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,; z$ r/ I2 @8 v4 y1 D
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%+ E% ~% X$ U& U* h
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
- z  B1 n, j( i% T' p7 OAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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$ k" {$ c4 j  r6 ^% v2 T[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ( I3 p( L/ u- v: V! i& K
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments6 X& B/ I9 x; A- |
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