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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.2 f0 n2 V" B; ~: B8 O$ ?) N
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 0 B/ @/ G* N2 G/ l: s6 W: h
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.. i: p" G7 i6 y3 C* u
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ( Q/ a$ a0 j+ S

: f, u+ U2 Y- J. bTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.& U7 n! E, E) Q

. d7 N4 N! {9 VMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 4 p% W7 b/ B$ b4 Y+ S, N, X) G1 Y

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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. v$ h1 R# @0 y; OTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。: C: I7 K/ S" i' v% a5 q
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 u) [; Y  U0 ]0 t. ~- D9 x  r
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

$ Z0 o2 g. i5 Z+ ]; ^; P很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta5 X" }3 T$ v: Q1 H' y8 F
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its1 M" g$ [) k8 [0 O5 V5 {+ r# q
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household9 V. Q- |+ l7 f! v; Q
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided0 f( {+ X/ E0 m6 @% V' l
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
* Y+ G2 V) Q1 g6 a% Zthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and: x, W1 I; a6 v; O& I, y% _
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous. G0 A" k9 Y1 Y; h# B9 [
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed- z( h1 ]1 ]& v: b/ S( x, Q, J
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined2 D7 R" P- F6 m& P+ H( j
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year; T5 S) u- j& T8 o% r$ v
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around0 a9 c& `7 W7 j( H8 T6 ^
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s8 n5 @6 I, R+ k, s! E
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%, a5 L) }7 J* Q+ F' Z
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals) @2 y0 a8 U& _6 l# \3 S( R
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging8 G" L9 _9 b# e6 r# G
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories' A1 s4 k1 X2 E. H2 w9 I
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
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1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
6 Y" G9 `7 o* ~8 _# gsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
! r0 w0 E" N! `5 ?$ {0 ?. jbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
" E7 y: i8 B' j. @+ A* J" Ptwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in4 l' u; H0 @( B5 k6 d
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
. Z# s1 b) i( ]4 x. Jresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s1 t3 X$ m- `1 [7 d& Q/ Z5 k7 u
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
3 C6 v/ T, {/ w" Y4 }Although income growth was very strong, Albertan7 o5 ^6 ~2 F9 H: o$ e' C
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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: L3 M8 A4 h' t" V" _4 Bthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners; R. S( R8 a$ f8 Y3 Z
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.2 l8 `  Q4 `. P! o% B: H$ g
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average. B, _" v* o5 |
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%8 G5 V0 r8 s" E( _" e/ z
leg down over 2009.: k) l9 y- B' n3 [4 y

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 [$ P- L" ?/ G0 N) s
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.   V* u6 ^& k, Q- m! k( b& l
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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