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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.- \! |+ I6 g7 |" p- r
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. * U* |& @3 [* f
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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3 Q0 K% N3 ?3 N% l6 Q"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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. ?9 l  _2 i+ X5 i% U. N- cNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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5 \3 M5 y- J" x# B; V* a% vTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.+ t) b( X2 j- `3 N& n
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.* ~) P( V5 R, r7 \; M

( R: R! r) X  J/ J0 oMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 1 o6 G* }2 ]: v# S( D
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。* t& t4 N& W' Q% d6 n0 [, r
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 # [: C* y3 j5 ~  s( L! y
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

! x1 a5 A. \" U3 y( ~6 Q. R# {* Y很多人都回学校深造去了: Y7 I3 T' t; Z0 B  C1 U( P
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta% A) T% o) x9 x7 U2 p/ r. U) F: v% L% w
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its& r7 A% K7 V6 y% G
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton5 `# J, D6 [; l+ y- s. K
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to# `4 v, |* T/ E$ ]# Q
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household6 K8 l/ \( j7 Q. Y
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
9 o/ K3 Q4 x# T& Z2 Z! p8 b* `from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
' X* D* A" y# a* y5 p- Rthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and  p& J- I5 ~# Q" n/ o8 K2 f4 D
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
2 Z# d% _& @  opace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
+ V) T) g/ d( `/ I9 V& c1 cprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
5 h' C& d+ g' L3 g9 D  n9 Ato 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year' \+ |7 S( Z& G
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
$ n  n/ u, N( a6 `# h7 I( Xyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,( b6 _; V- I5 v1 e
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around6 ?" Y! E' y' E+ b. m
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
; t) K: D" @  h' |3 N. s( x& C- Lduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta8 t9 _/ |6 Y; B
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new  l. ?& W7 R9 j5 D
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals. [, U7 m7 ]  a) Z
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
5 {: S: Q4 T# m+ c; u- ~1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
  o9 J" L  u' R: y6 e# [& T. osales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
+ I" t0 X0 h9 ?7 p( \" abuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in7 {) S* Y" |0 r6 J" `9 A# l
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest6 J( ^+ x3 Q  H  n1 X/ `
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the% \% b. m; k* r! E6 \( R& o
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s3 F* F% ^. X% @8 P( z
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
3 c1 b4 d/ H/ ^8 |' X* D% Y; xAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan5 s9 S5 a" Z" r( a3 K( m
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced6 f. T, e9 j& b. Z$ ~6 M* W6 E
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
8 i7 F2 g, X5 l) Q, ~8 xprices substantially eroded affordability and, even: W, L) g" b4 N9 D
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners9 `4 W( B2 v/ p) l
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
5 F5 M; J) ]$ `7 M% P1 CThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average1 m9 x3 E. R9 f# i- Z
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’3 M: }6 |* c2 f1 C
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,/ B+ J8 \9 }$ o% ^* t3 n" ], Z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%8 g/ b4 C: {) p" ~3 g7 Z% f: E6 Q" z2 e
leg down over 2009.0 m, O5 f* ~9 t

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,! W- G3 A$ c% }0 p/ O
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. # L/ i2 m- w: h. c. N6 W
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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