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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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5 `! c+ _* T  Y4 g1 f& ^TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. * h( {, K9 ~4 X$ q6 q$ l  q# H
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 8 Y2 P# e7 B" ]8 j

7 U) B! M6 i4 R1 }% r! g# x"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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) n& J! s4 j$ GNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.3 f# M- q1 v: N. v

' w1 l) R$ G$ T& l& BTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.) K( N( W7 j; T1 O" u

0 X3 X9 |8 ?9 m5 I0 q, m  ]"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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: A/ ^3 i7 @) L! Q& P; xTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ M2 P8 d# v$ b6 S9 Z! F
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 3 }5 B" R0 f' D) N

+ U! h+ L5 J9 J& vhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,' I: }) B( N1 x
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
  ?) V  n) N9 r' w* g+ S/ J 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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" E: e! `# v: J! k[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
5 b$ ?( E& }. @# t6 U3 d跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了* E5 w2 |* P3 L/ ?. N2 h- y' |- G
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta5 z4 P- r- Q2 q3 m3 \
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its3 |4 y2 Y" ~7 `) W+ y
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
8 l+ o1 i: }" S, b! C: rare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to/ O0 M: p! H) X% ?
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household8 G8 K6 M, W) _
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
. K5 o" A- e1 k. W: _' x7 rfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
* y. V, R9 ~7 N8 i+ F2 J' bthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
& J; Q. y  W* M. s3 I6 P! G; jmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous0 J4 R6 W% {6 M3 b  H, U% G5 f5 i8 n
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
+ B  I8 G( y8 |; f1 g, A/ bprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
6 g! \# \2 w! C5 C) k5 zto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year$ g0 q1 X' x$ O7 o8 E6 G
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this& o( }7 A1 W! R7 w5 u8 H; E
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
& W1 Y, Z1 _& F$ N2 k, Uhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around8 N0 W& b2 W) |1 w- K
30,000 new households will form in the province during. ~2 z, L* n( o
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
8 {+ I( H3 @1 iEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
7 a6 ]1 X( b( t9 rhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
' P- t. b3 g' d4 {. J5 Z0 z& c8 dduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta" ~% i+ I$ K1 x& E1 j! x
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new2 m, @! Y; d. W( [
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals2 _' @+ q' a# Z6 N: c8 _% b
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
8 @  [* B! s* t0 Hsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
7 S0 U/ m! k1 t7 ?" i7 N+ s6 Nclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is3 {+ S/ O+ c3 s, W, d4 ^5 |
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
+ B4 c! b/ K& Q1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
/ p( a: A/ }! v  D2 X" F' A' qsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive$ i6 _6 u' ?, r0 u  f
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
6 h" L' z+ O. S! f& X4 r' ftwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
* ~- W' v/ Y; Aunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
$ c$ Z0 m; p; b' P( M" Gunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
* C; c+ t0 Y$ Q+ _recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
+ q# F8 A4 r; rresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
1 w$ |5 @) C% u, Smajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories% J5 V7 X9 L6 X
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s! T& n$ ^  i8 T
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.: Q9 }1 t4 r: r; Q: x
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan- i% c7 x# l3 ]3 ~( A) P
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced- l# n$ ]5 p2 q) k, Z
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale# p* q/ Y. z  g8 s, e  _! K4 d8 P
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable., B* j7 D. U& C) C" |
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average5 L. u: E* G) ~6 V+ [' ]+ F
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
1 Z6 d7 V7 ?$ oexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
1 G4 q! ?- {1 P) i3 mhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%! T4 m0 x0 a' p5 `  @
leg down over 2009.* L( L) h6 _- Y

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
5 r+ `3 m9 c! L3 s8 i. e5 G1 OAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 8 m7 o. \# c9 [3 J% T" x# h3 G4 q' L
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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/ ~9 I2 n2 u( B. h6 d" @. F[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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