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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.2 @: X+ J0 C% F2 H

) X! l2 F, C2 w3 a& l+ h7 A" Q+ Y- PTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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2 V6 Q9 m) P' K9 o$ ZThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. : @9 h0 z9 u+ @5 S# Z6 _

( V- A1 s1 p2 o6 B9 _0 u. k"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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! x  f* C# X) _# X; I) [; W1 ENow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.+ Q# s! X# F* z$ K
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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1 j) G/ Y3 t; V2 e1 A) x3 P- Q"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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5 b3 P9 Y, m) b5 Z1 _( STD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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! J) \/ H6 b7 f8 }' z0 Q, bMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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7 y, w- v2 e2 @1 h% u! H[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
* w4 |# h% R/ a0 M: | 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 + G: r' N# a) ]" i% q
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了, M3 {) Y+ D3 o3 ]
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta2 ]# ?7 m* C) x: P. ^- a
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its) n. e; k3 ~) @: V
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton2 M8 R# i4 \8 G/ v1 z2 }9 S0 Q
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
5 Q$ I& g6 _8 G! T5 M" h  v$ y8 ~2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
1 ^2 [1 l- N# `  x' r$ c5 P: P3 uformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided" t. C3 x, h# x" A
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
: j$ k9 A7 P. U: u: Rthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and# B  C% Y( j5 k% ^6 r
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous! L7 d; J( j2 g. h+ W. b" A
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
7 T& K" q) J& V: ~6 M! C/ a% Yprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
# H$ \9 \3 A0 d4 z3 K+ oto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year; q. z) r* ^& i- w
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
1 x# f9 z! t" _0 u) U5 {8 |( @' A" yyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
. @& b* B9 }8 W7 m0 x/ jhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around* D' j1 h9 h5 c4 b6 S
30,000 new households will form in the province during
. J  f" w: @- s* F6 F2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
5 _6 d; C* f' J+ o- c0 bEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
) J) }" o* x# V- C+ Z6 Bhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
- j: u, }0 {# ^during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
! n% x+ ^& K0 Q1 qhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new3 p$ c; d# `3 u& E% ^: m8 O" c8 B
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of+ ~* x) @. A0 [" }. H0 v
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a" `/ C+ W& J" N. E; D, O) E
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
$ V- N' E$ h3 a: x& V& \buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in. d9 I0 w+ ~* ?6 E
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
( z5 R' z. \+ a; o8 _unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747' R4 K: W$ X; x, u. U
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
5 Q! q8 A/ q- n* o+ D& mrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
9 |. J+ a' t1 ?& `1 G6 C, vresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
" a4 T0 D4 ^% Vmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories# c6 X. }+ ~; S6 S9 a$ m
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled% h3 Q" A& g/ U
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
2 s1 ?' _! H7 ?! c: t$ R. DThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s3 }# r+ G* O: ?3 @, M7 @
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
: j+ f2 w+ Y7 |, G! YAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan3 T7 X, o  ?  _+ s: v7 J
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced: M  s2 W% c% s( f6 B( L0 a
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale( t2 H+ ]6 E: |
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
, g6 f* y9 P8 M& Qthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners) j) r8 w/ d4 `$ U: ^
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.7 w% a# D8 P7 t" i3 h( }3 Q" t
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove) ]( W& E- h7 T7 {
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%0 D6 a$ E, _: G: Z
leg down over 2009.3 q8 e( d9 f' n% `3 s- Y- g
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,/ d$ V/ |& o! H( x
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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5 R5 R6 P3 I+ R; z2 d* o& i" N[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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% n1 q! `' h6 n, X3 }http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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