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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.# e$ F7 P3 s) F: u& O

# S: K- {6 q1 p, Y+ i. |TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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' c3 @. z2 ^6 x7 F0 H8 D8 XThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.5 A% {2 O* x5 t) T6 o

- K/ ~; t+ z9 j+ Y+ o# MTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 5 a+ N( @) R' \- u" z+ E; {) O
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. $ J. f; x" O7 r9 c& b

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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. P9 H" o7 P3 L& V$ q' O# T% wTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,; k$ s6 c! ~4 V0 ~4 Q
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
7 ]" T; {% v5 g! P$ }9 U7 ~; Z 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 + q0 a  q% `! P
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

3 u2 r! }! e% j. W5 d5 z" L: u( c+ N很多人都回学校深造去了7 X- [. G! i1 v4 g7 x
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 w* s- B2 E% c7 HWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
* ]" d- x  o( j0 v5 j4 u0 ~boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton' U2 I& e' ^+ F  }% H. a. J
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to4 s* F% h) a: R' l2 b, x  {" X
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
9 r/ `4 t3 Q$ V/ ~0 \' Z# Hformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
( R# {& w) \+ w* ^from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 j5 D% w0 R+ \  P
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and7 x6 t" H  e0 U7 n
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous7 T4 V1 L) t) B! h5 c$ }
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
& g2 P2 `; g6 }8 V& cprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
/ A3 v' O8 W2 `5 h. Y$ {2 ]/ \, `/ nto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
; L2 C7 A. y. H/ Yprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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) D$ g$ x& k0 e5 D/ ]- }2 Uhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around/ o- \" ^. k- W: @6 g2 l4 v7 e- V: C
30,000 new households will form in the province during
/ m4 ~# R' m  h9 f' ?2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
) P* W( Q+ `, CEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
8 T8 c6 C# }; }" m# r9 O6 N* Phomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%0 w( J" w! ~1 i3 H3 a  X$ k
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta7 ?4 P4 T: Z$ ?* F3 B6 @
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
/ `7 ^, d% G5 G, u4 Fhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
9 V; N, B- u; R9 q& mexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
9 H" v2 [4 k  R. K1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a0 H9 D) q3 @! D- H# o
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
  u, h; H) w* R- Z* o+ h5 v; gbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
' O! J1 X) W8 |# Z9 L& Atwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in+ a: T- `' `' D3 j& N; l
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7475 C1 Y; M. e; p/ x, L2 S
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
/ Q3 T; U' d3 q/ p) Erecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the5 U( y4 Z/ V& l" d/ {* m
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
2 g3 Q) A) T# X7 p: v4 j% gmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories: |9 Q/ r3 y+ H
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled: P( z+ t" z1 i9 j
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
7 B0 i% o/ e8 {- \- k6 Y& `The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
2 v) S7 g; d/ J& R( pboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.+ i& [% F  Q/ R  h
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan% m' h( P, J2 `/ X
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
5 |, J1 W/ k9 n, ~though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average( G( ^* z" R4 o$ }" _2 O5 C" o
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’. b: c3 }/ |/ r6 O
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
5 Q% n* \1 S" b- P; [; a- SAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%; M- W( r) a6 i/ z" m2 I% c
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories," S8 n5 `* [4 Q, A; K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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