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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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0 y/ u# N. ]3 g0 {- d3 O- EThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. : X3 i; Y* }6 S5 E- G

- j* X4 L" o, b) z"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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- W+ O/ a4 M' O0 tNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.5 U" P" R7 z( w' v1 ^) `8 T; M
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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+ `! k. B, a2 u0 P2 @9 Z, y: }& oTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year." C1 Z2 B1 q& |4 k  g- c
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。7 L8 J5 }& o7 o/ K4 V5 _, h" i' |
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。" X; k& t, D, M% |
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
7 M% h3 C4 F. U6 Z3 T跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了3 m# D' P# d8 q% R; Q9 |, U
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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: h) d  Z# m) K5 Tboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
4 V: W$ G1 k9 }$ ]( r4 E$ s4 Lare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to$ W. n3 R! n4 P/ `' z8 `
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
+ J, B+ Y% Z# k" g0 D3 d7 Mformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided, P3 Q% X0 T  Y3 M6 A* s
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
) c3 D1 o% _# y7 ~* Kthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and2 X  w+ u9 b; Y+ l7 l& n
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
, j1 t0 k' d1 K- ?& A0 T, mpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
2 a- Q+ D7 }# N2 Sprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
; K7 D$ m! j5 u$ \( A% tto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
" q  G4 O5 F3 y: s- Jprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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/ O" H; F" p" r6 L& Hhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around8 F( \$ N& J  _; c
30,000 new households will form in the province during* d+ H% w( W7 r; z6 c/ @9 b
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
: T. G7 G+ |. W! F0 U/ `/ lEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s. z" Z9 y0 f) H& c
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
9 _; |9 \. M! z( u, Hduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta, G5 P" w0 [# O6 z
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging# c! N1 H; T7 z, \  {5 M- L
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of% Y0 Z6 O3 g3 F9 h
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
: g+ n7 t' B( B0 a; U" ?9 Hsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
# B+ b6 H! @' t3 ~! nbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& ?, H8 @  n( L8 d
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
! u& R) Q% _7 Y' N7 nunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
1 ^* _- n0 w, O. o8 v: c2 d! lunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 j9 ^. k* V9 `( {' B
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the. m. |) s9 [* V) Y" G' W
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s) t2 Z/ ], R  F8 e# f
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories: I/ T! }% Z9 f0 K7 `
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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! i3 j) i" r+ C& q$ N. Lboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.: H9 N# M! \3 s( p- t: V' T4 E
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan: |; f0 T) e; K
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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3 D7 T' Z9 |/ `! u% xprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average4 @# }0 r3 ]6 E8 x( V
resale price in February is evidence that past prices, I7 {3 _- }! B7 F( M
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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  }/ B* h% t* q3 LAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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