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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.0 W# A' o8 ~( J! k! l+ a; J

( b2 [- W; J" YTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. . h( t- D  q9 n4 l5 B

8 ?1 o9 f! i5 R' A"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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$ g: F% J5 \1 i+ l  eNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.& ~. W- J% E/ Q3 D! d* ^3 f) r

2 `; N0 `' O8 i! p3 G. ^; MTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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5 ^0 ~. J% Y2 B7 n7 O7 g"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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/ o, a7 T& A: ^/ xTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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: }3 b8 ?" _. j8 A, |Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. : ?3 N% |/ X) L3 M8 f; A
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
! R! o3 j5 {+ y! T; M0 s! O 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
/ v4 N. D$ T- s跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

* G) K8 x, _  m, p; V+ c/ q很多人都回学校深造去了
: c: H: G/ l6 {- c! E, _* \( ?嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta, ^/ @7 c1 d0 ~
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
: V$ @7 F" t; Z/ U% q3 [boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
4 j: u4 ~2 t. Q& Vare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to2 f* o' T: e+ g# T! f
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
7 |/ Q; E/ \* s9 G% Fformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
+ J2 W( b6 w8 I; D! Jfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 f7 ~5 ^: @. P% e, T7 j. T
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
+ J/ y( a/ t9 X# Tmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous2 S1 N5 t$ |' P
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed  M* x) \1 w, D) w% N8 S
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined. p3 _$ [) z: K  X0 ]) Y/ r
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
: h4 k# P3 x0 m+ n9 n6 `prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
; c' l/ H$ {6 G' |1 \& G; B$ L- B0 Iyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
( c- Z' R" @5 Z+ `2 O( shomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around4 X3 b) a% V/ ^9 T: r" B4 x3 @
30,000 new households will form in the province during) _( ?. Y8 m/ W/ {8 z, v
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.$ C4 D5 n4 @! d9 V  T& A
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s3 Y2 t- u' V' I/ [  U4 r+ g  D8 I
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%7 K" ]5 _" U- `/ ~7 f+ e
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta4 o3 l5 J: n$ a8 n/ I9 W
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
, F3 Q! A5 o( k( @, U) q- y! Rhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals6 L4 X  q; U& q. z/ ^& {
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
$ j3 q: b$ I. T' E2 z; I# w! Ysales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
. B8 |) q" Q* Q( z) W5 Z! [1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
' ?3 d# p: d/ g6 ~( j8 lsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
/ o3 }' n2 G8 L7 L  ]2 b9 b! @: U3 gbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
$ x8 n5 C9 w& d8 P2 F7 }9 Qtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest/ ?6 _6 N/ @' G" P* i5 w2 {
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the  @6 X' s: X, r& i
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s0 d  W8 g' k2 ^
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.: M: E) ~8 ^6 ~5 l/ Z
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s. H: [; Y0 v% }2 C1 K0 B  H. |$ h! U
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.) I9 g3 @  |1 ~  R# ^  d- d
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan( r" S, Y7 p" _  ^2 @
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced- x' E3 v! @( a' {+ c2 h0 v
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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3 J/ z, H8 |' H2 Lthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
5 m+ [& W8 A. B) U" N8 r. w) Ron average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.$ I+ A& ]# w0 @+ L& D1 B
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
; p6 [) T" k* Presale price in February is evidence that past prices
) O1 s9 M  K  j- J5 \exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
8 U" B2 k- C" c0 ohomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. - t/ ^/ k) x* @) ]
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments8 n6 X& P' o# \

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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