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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.1 u1 _  p* q7 Z& @& T; b

  g4 u7 s$ l0 ~+ l- a0 |TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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9 _& D0 U; {& G/ I& `- ^! zThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.   I# _/ D: m6 i( m) ?

6 y& J7 b) D& x" l9 F"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 1 }1 ^& B# V) Z% H

# Q( n& n  r- x6 ~: dNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.0 O" P& K: \0 H( L

$ Z) l, C' }3 g8 Z& x. n: qTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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6 m) j) Q4 T. e  [! f"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ; q$ E% j8 G7 o# c8 K1 J- }

* Q7 |0 Z! D2 p' _7 ETD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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9 l( K0 x6 Q% {http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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5 P) |, K, F+ }0 LTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
" G5 B8 ~7 H  b 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
/ ^1 p/ V( Y- E% R6 H) r跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

! @& t" |5 ?% Y2 Z9 O% V很多人都回学校深造去了
6 H# K. z; n7 D6 s- X0 p; v嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
8 i8 e6 R) f1 X; n5 p" @3 m+ VWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
$ P  K' s3 `% b) @; y5 |3 Nboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton) K! @$ l6 |- v0 q0 X0 N* N. r
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
4 v3 R5 f6 e* n: G4 e- d  n2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household' B& q- U  f* U% K3 S. G
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided& X( c" n! N; Y) T* ^6 \& i
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,! C2 P6 L1 t" u% J2 L6 b
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and( e. @! N6 O4 L7 F. l& n0 e
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous8 z8 e7 m) F" ]% f1 e4 I3 k/ D: v3 ]4 y
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
3 }8 z+ H" b) v' s" w3 x3 k0 Qprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined3 Z8 T7 ~# S! ?
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year! z- k9 Z- i; v/ M5 i
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this5 _" V; H" m: C. ^( y8 [
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,# x( \  j* J3 L6 J* l& `9 S
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around) Z) E  ?% D; U" B! f
30,000 new households will form in the province during6 f1 B3 |. x$ X; e& ~0 d# I! s
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.8 `( [& R: N+ h" C- ~4 e! y
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s0 l/ S* ]! X* U& O
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%. q+ h' U9 D0 V: t% C
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta$ n8 \. ?1 V1 D
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new5 b+ h' n/ Z' F: O; Q/ N
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
  f3 D* l) j3 B* q& ?7 T% ?( i1 kduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging, D7 \& @& ]4 \6 R1 b1 i9 ^
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories$ c2 F! k' E! ~, S
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
' H* f. ~( y1 V& ~' c( b+ x7 Rexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of" i0 `* ?, [, [( }( }# N! m
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a& D# z5 V/ G3 e! V
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
% y" K; [+ |8 _  w# w% G% ~) _buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
* v( S" t! F9 J6 V# Z: o2 q. Rtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in' i, M) m4 |* V
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
" |4 w: E2 x6 K) n" tunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
4 Z" f9 B3 w  k3 erecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 q/ K0 e0 i8 m( K/ j! Cresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
- {' Y$ [$ f1 ^/ {& o4 ]major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- t3 J+ R  z6 ?. ^, q. I- i: }7 d
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
& Q& Z5 Z, o* C9 V4 G+ H2 Orapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.5 G3 m+ [3 U6 ]! Z% U& V) x
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
+ l* T( q( G8 @0 J3 q6 s8 xboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.! H* a  Z& I0 g5 s9 s9 k% o
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan0 r3 R+ w8 u( o
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
; U! r6 o- [" ^; `1 M( x3 e9 arelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale& W, }  w) U8 i- i, p% M
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even* o$ Y# |+ h# E5 ?0 U
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
" c- p  p" N7 O' ^% y6 B9 X1 U9 \on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
" X. @2 D% j* |9 V/ n; E# y9 BThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average# g7 n( K: d* d) r9 y& P
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
( T: X% p/ `( h2 V& G$ [$ dexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
  B( u8 I. x, J- Z. n. u0 y' Vhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’: a" S: l2 W6 z. H% O3 t% [8 O) v
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
2 H4 h! t" E5 R# x6 |Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
0 \+ W1 ?) H8 r5 lleg down over 2009.4 v) R7 x4 k6 l- S& _1 @

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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