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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.  |0 z5 i# s) v: E& X: G
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. . |# [7 Q" R" y3 B( S
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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7 \, _% a. F' P! f$ @6 c: N4 @+ y"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 0 Y+ y2 R) Z6 |$ Z9 j/ R: Y
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.# w" C/ N: f; v
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ! x8 \, n7 G1 o% R$ i3 b0 b1 ]
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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  q: |) |1 v% q; k/ v( {Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 6 P0 S$ `# J% [9 R9 H
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
. G- y% \2 v* A( p% N! s# [ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 " L" o# d" `& }
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta- T4 Q: n. _0 Y+ }9 b3 @) o& @3 t
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
7 P. o* N+ j5 u  L$ q* f0 Xboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
2 ]( F( P. D3 pare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
- W; A7 `' f: ^1 R3 u1 q/ t  ]9 S2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
2 {3 d; R7 D) d. R+ e5 _" D6 [2 zformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided7 L8 }- Y4 M+ E
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 j' {9 N7 P$ C6 ^, r1 V
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
6 \6 X) o7 ~+ q. k7 L7 {+ m2 vmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
+ b! l8 e6 a* h) npace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed. Y4 h, F. s- D3 e2 J4 E9 W
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined3 D1 @2 w, N& k8 _/ i' d5 S; o+ b
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
" S: Z2 p1 J4 P5 L* ?prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
5 H$ v- j+ g0 P% T30,000 new households will form in the province during
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9 |0 U+ u& C) w4 EEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s6 j0 x( a, d, v
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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+ w2 t: y' ^( E* V- [0 hhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging' y, I- \* @( G( `
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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) u8 j2 ]) d! [* y/ Vexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of( Y" [# ~  I3 R4 J" O$ {
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a5 }# c9 e9 z+ m6 c  e. Z- e
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
3 ^0 X0 d7 y, m! Rbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in0 M2 g; |! `. E5 W. o
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in( z& r% H$ `; k  c; j+ r
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; G2 C8 Q5 r( A% s
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
+ X2 S  H" I! Wrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
+ C( r& K1 ~2 e0 K1 h4 X& a/ }$ W; c& [resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
5 D5 F7 w( m: S4 U+ c" N9 d( ^The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s, c: }- E9 Q4 [6 |* g: [
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
2 w% I- \7 p  \& T. T/ u6 x% wAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
  x: s# [) P7 x8 khousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
1 p' t7 U* U( j, h7 }2 s0 ^$ Trelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
; t& z1 j$ l# n9 r' l6 rprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
0 a4 z4 H" C7 V4 _" Uthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
9 G% ~7 z( p* p, Eon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
8 h; m7 b( t- a3 A! F  S6 R* }' GThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average( U$ x+ `, l1 z% r" G- l) s$ G
resale price in February is evidence that past prices% I; v+ \( ^2 a1 k5 i# Z) v3 z
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove- B5 Q( X+ {8 U) z1 L
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’5 p1 r- F+ [# [
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
1 `" Z, i/ R8 IAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%* P/ J$ B5 m0 n* q& C5 x7 `. }
leg down over 2009.7 \! W) T8 r& u( B

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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,1 a# @7 O# r% N" v! @
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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