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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.* r' ^9 k; i1 g! n" q8 {3 G3 ]) G) Y

: k4 s( G' f. ]TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ( Y$ G' f; j" G. j1 o: z

. f! z1 M  K# ]; G% o7 R, S9 qThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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/ Q, \+ j* P9 ?9 M7 @4 lNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.- G+ h+ y+ U3 C2 \8 q

; T7 j8 K/ H' b, ZTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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7 m; M# [9 P- T3 T+ W"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 4 j0 X' ]/ R5 D( D

& E9 q4 N1 f3 j+ [2 J) yTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.7 ~6 E4 E9 }3 N) K3 A/ @" G9 Y' ]3 j

* I1 J. q( U0 S' p$ SMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. , X$ u. m/ G, W  ^. u$ W

. F- ]$ z. m- O4 q+ K( Y& Ehttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,2 r2 G; o& E5 _0 ]- Z& a- P% ~
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
( q# a' F2 m4 G 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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3 h; c# X* ^' Q3 Z" z2 T; f. I- W[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 " z, ^+ m  R  {- `1 p) Q5 z
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta5 M9 E8 m* q6 }1 W$ k, G
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its- ?; |+ d, t  x% n8 g
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
5 t% h2 r+ c4 n2 R; ware cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
" H$ v( j  p7 q( ]* \2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
0 ?2 M* f2 W  hformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
1 `" Q9 g0 M+ x" Cfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
% y" n0 E, M  e  Dthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
+ d# }# ~& ^8 u  \  n1 jmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous$ R# x" w# r4 Z5 c, C
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: D% Y, E$ |+ L+ R6 U; \' `! G8 Xprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined: J7 K  D0 @# I9 ~, t$ n
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year! G' R' z5 W( y( d! @
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this4 g5 g! c: h) J
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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30,000 new households will form in the province during: x* R8 Z: Q4 v1 T# S9 b
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
5 J  O6 o3 S$ c5 JEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s( z; T1 ~) k7 N* \' _" h" G- k
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%6 G, |5 ]5 g9 v( O# f
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta- l. T# a/ S, L. y+ a# w
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new; E6 b8 A7 ~# H, _  G; H
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
4 N* V4 Y7 N( r$ l) \during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging5 H% f0 a# g- n+ ~9 ^
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
# M. r4 f. c& F  v5 F& Vclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is) O; E. y+ g# G' g" D
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of4 k  w/ g& k: J/ {
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
) }! [% Y1 |9 r/ Ysales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive  S& n, S& x  p& @. m# Z8 q
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
6 E' f  D6 Y0 e& u) }' Otwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
% n( J) U. W8 {, W- ~: ?0 Xunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
6 |7 V: u) j' T/ c/ |unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
- j& H$ x  V! X0 {2 ]9 Trecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the0 Q! U" U1 L0 a2 H5 _
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
9 H- w, h& m' W4 Kmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories( l( E5 \8 }5 d9 X
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
. X9 g2 w7 E- p4 I, R8 o' ^rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.% Z5 ]1 q' L  X+ v4 s
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
# y9 ]  M6 H* H" X9 Z' Aboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
( T; _; Y/ t' [$ X# jAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan, p' P, a0 D& O" o* P+ i
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
3 M; B' n: c( f. xrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale- {5 S8 t2 s5 x6 S6 e
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
  p. k2 K3 w; }# h  K  C5 Ethough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
6 k  }( s9 s$ v1 Y8 c9 m/ I, lon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
! J9 y9 L9 L/ i8 ^" H9 ~4 t4 kThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average; v1 l; F' L8 ?( o
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
9 y7 p, f6 |0 c: @( C2 \" X' k9 Lexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
/ \' S. P$ P- j* B0 G  C5 G7 Mhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
1 {: q/ p' S  [deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
/ `, `' t- C7 U( Z  GAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%4 D3 Q' d4 ^& _9 }1 N
leg down over 2009.1 [  h1 k4 e( F6 }  r$ X, A  i
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
+ X" ?7 J% ~. {Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. , z" t6 n! k# a# u
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子4 d! u% B( u  `4 `

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