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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. % _% L: ^9 U* k6 z
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.& w3 r7 k3 [. w8 D# N7 P
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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3 V$ L& ]/ L6 eMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ! R" R* Q) P+ q2 ^9 ~0 e) g

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
8 A+ j7 t% n2 H* {% F: y" V 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 # I. r% D+ ~, {' c' p6 ]
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了8 W$ f1 ]& O% ?! n; q2 E6 E6 h
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta0 I6 I8 e; i, J2 a% l. \
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
' v  S' r% ?) ?0 bboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
5 t9 @- {' f& m! ?3 d8 Dare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to+ G9 {) W- ~3 ~7 F" g- p9 ]6 x
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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+ v+ j' v4 r# p7 c0 x" ~0 \+ F7 c  dfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,& y8 k) r# o' V% @# y
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
+ K1 j/ g6 n6 R& x2 r7 hmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous$ ]: j% [: z# S2 t) K+ z6 a
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
2 N0 A0 @5 j2 X% z" U; Xprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this, C4 f& b$ N3 _1 K  \
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,8 l* }- S4 r7 S" o: \9 U5 q8 u
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
9 L. {6 b6 y4 ?0 `9 O* L30,000 new households will form in the province during
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. \* ?' C! Y  bEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
5 r/ O0 s6 ?9 c/ Hhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%. w* j2 d7 b7 ]6 L! c) \
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories, H5 T3 _: Y2 U* `
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is) ?: C0 n: [. k0 ^) F* y
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of$ l9 ?8 m2 g* [* M5 X& B
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
; Y# F1 O6 a4 @1 z0 w9 `sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
  g$ o0 q1 K9 ^+ Jbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in- a: c; H9 b9 `
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
4 Z0 v8 \. R) n+ munsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747$ A6 F' N4 Q7 u7 C9 ]: E' A" M3 e
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest! p6 a( x6 a, w7 b' h3 |/ X
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
# \* x/ ~: Y. B" c5 mresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
$ E8 K3 n- ~3 |4 `- H; BThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan  ?  C* j: I0 E2 R
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced4 b7 o9 c+ P1 i0 Y5 q6 [' Y$ @
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale, a( H$ T  \2 G6 `
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
( U. c9 B" A% F/ E2 ^though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average! i, i; A+ }7 L; w0 k
resale price in February is evidence that past prices( s/ U1 \$ J6 f+ l6 Z
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove4 \% t" S, K$ K/ V" K! @2 J, [# }
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
$ ~: d. n6 s5 j. L  j( [3 F) jAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. $ h1 H7 p' w* h* g) l! C/ v" X
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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