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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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! F+ W6 a, a( l" ITD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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! _* \, e; i. Q$ y/ U# z"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. " w/ \- ?4 Y# Z* S9 k& Q  _$ p
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.! f4 S0 R/ s! G& x$ }+ r, g
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000., X3 o2 P# _4 P3 v6 V6 i0 I

# U+ L' J7 W& S; F/ t- U"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 7 [" i' J! P2 h4 T: g# S- g

) |0 H; V3 @) F' X: k$ PTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.; S5 O. n/ R1 l1 K

# r8 b$ g/ ]2 I. B$ `Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. # u0 |" N. H, a# q7 |
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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5 |' R# O  g' P: C7 x[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
6 L+ d  S5 H% n% t7 y# }+ | 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。$ w& d0 L. u( t: ~8 Y( ~$ m, L

1 {( ]$ J1 V4 ^2 V[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
' L/ \0 A4 C$ c7 T跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta: K' K8 d  f& T) I5 m8 w! z
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its7 j# P1 ]! x9 v
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton8 c  @0 l5 E* o/ S% A* j3 ^! h
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to3 J6 r8 V9 E5 E& a) v% v! |$ i
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ D$ q7 h" V! T, n, h/ Z
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
: h% U! j; I4 d3 ?9 g5 xfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
3 J2 Y: F' u, F' z' z; t/ ^; zthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and( }, m( \5 Z5 ?
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
+ ~! x2 s& a' M1 Qpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
" U+ d( A' E% ~precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
& u  c% I: i7 R" V8 C! s! cto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year' O8 z; Y# G- N0 c( _8 J  f
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this9 V% M7 v$ m- I. j* i! f
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
# ]9 b. W# F* m' Lhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around- ?, k/ l* {* j5 Q/ O8 \
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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# U& ?. @% ~# m; Y% b0 ^+ L) [Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s0 }( u$ P8 g6 Q
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
, I) \: o; q# k7 h# t, k% Nduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories! p6 b; Y$ Y5 H
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
' p: j( T. O) t8 |  [) S- Yexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
9 r: b- v. y3 ^, _; i1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
0 A, p0 A3 e6 I# f  Dsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
2 N$ X3 {! U. R) r  P# R/ Xbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in# ~; Y" n7 B5 N
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
! d. Q: r# F+ ]9 W1 O4 \unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7470 A& l- X$ R+ c: X9 p4 T# n. O
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 U! R# O+ b6 U& }: j
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories, h9 B* Y" r! K# W8 q2 L! L: }
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled4 _8 ]% K/ ^9 _, _
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic., ]3 j4 c- ^2 ^% p
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
7 I! d5 J; q6 }; R& a6 T+ Rhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even# _) J7 y3 E  V+ T* X. M
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners. r: i' V4 i3 }8 t1 z6 l% D
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
* |8 w4 k4 U9 T6 }The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
; a( G1 c0 s  j0 Kresale price in February is evidence that past prices% ~/ F- I) i& t' V& l! A
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
; q3 Q0 l6 h: ?& y& H/ Ahomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
$ q% q! s, n: Wdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,, b/ a6 B( o7 k; a
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%0 s: k  N3 C# o& b/ T: u
leg down over 2009./ f! m" @, c  [" \7 I% n% l; @
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' I% C0 y8 d0 Y( a# a
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. % s' F5 j; |- P5 q4 O8 G
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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