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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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& X7 V/ R/ \" x9 j. ITD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 6 u4 P" U: C" ^' _5 E. R

9 Z! F  u' s) h0 y/ P, {, bThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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& j# ?9 ?- J1 \6 C"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. / O# O$ G. ?( V
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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. J6 w, C' p( t8 CTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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- w) C/ R8 w0 Z  Y# ^"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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# Q3 G; {% _3 Z! [1 a: gTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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, X! i" D' o" |" lMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. : `+ a" `5 o% h

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,# c5 J7 ]* F- a, u2 C5 i: }

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。, M' _0 Y! o. o6 O. d3 d/ f/ F
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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* K5 s% R6 b! j; R- X, X. q[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 % D. j( x; c! [) }- r8 A& {5 k" S
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

5 v- v2 u* s/ k3 X2 Y9 p" y很多人都回学校深造去了% J/ h: i6 \9 i/ H4 R8 ~/ v
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
9 w5 J/ H0 w* h/ Y' mWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
9 a4 x6 h8 e6 L4 G' Uboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
& K. ]4 |  A* Z+ A# s, f7 v  pare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to; V2 y  o1 X6 I4 B8 [3 B/ J: O
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household  H9 d% M4 x7 ?5 U- n9 t* C4 y  {
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided2 J+ K: K; x9 I" k. a
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,/ V$ j9 d& d* \9 ^% F. A. V# Z
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and3 K, \/ Q0 ^  B6 z8 y, ~6 {
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
7 y; Y& S4 `2 g7 hpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
, F8 n# B8 y) ?' K, a4 `# Aprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined% i# ?2 F% |0 m8 v, X$ c* ]
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
0 {: |# t1 H: ]6 |/ m) d5 n  g& r/ }prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this) A7 p6 U4 [+ ]- ~0 r5 F( `8 D2 \
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
* p4 v. i  d; {' k# Bhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around5 X% K6 x7 H! I8 \$ Z9 X' K
30,000 new households will form in the province during. H4 J3 C! z! v4 f0 t$ D% b6 f) p
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
  R! }7 W/ k0 S' l8 s' GEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s- L$ q+ h! d. }3 X4 M6 q) n
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%+ y8 P9 e0 s0 I) U( t( L3 q
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta, ~" V9 ]: z( J+ s/ T: \6 ^$ b% Y  C
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
1 }; n' }4 N4 O" ]( _2 Q& Ehouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals- p: B6 l/ U0 ~
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging# _4 \% P8 M9 k" N- m
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories$ l* c$ K) D* u
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
5 `8 b/ T# |0 f* [& t) z2 aexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of) d0 [* J1 i- S* A
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
( e3 U* @! W- O: x, [sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive7 N8 v4 k: v2 H/ U2 i. y
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
4 R# Z' p6 k$ y6 x' ftwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in9 X3 c( c+ b% ?6 ?, _9 B
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747/ p( u5 ?# v" V8 X. }7 t: z
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
6 i. j1 ~' G  x5 N0 p. rrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
1 W+ k7 I5 F% [( E+ e# C  S6 dresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
- J( A9 X3 Z5 O! G  q  s, f( cmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
  B5 \6 \" \5 z% J/ Rof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
2 D4 C6 Q5 o5 W6 k7 r3 E) T4 Grapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
9 c- K& m1 R/ d+ V2 U/ [# v7 rThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
* q( E5 p- ^1 j7 @( Y4 P. L0 jboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
0 y& j: C, T4 R- x$ XAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
: A: l# K' ]% chousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced6 ^5 I& f7 ~/ |
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
" }9 ^  L& x/ e# Oprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
* c! E% _/ J; A- v4 uthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
. }9 f6 q/ V( K1 Q% t  uon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
7 D( [' z  X- U0 l( BThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average1 a  A- H. V. Z
resale price in February is evidence that past prices5 k% l. j) Y$ L3 X! x
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove- C' F2 o7 Y% K# n
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
! D+ q6 L0 h% v2 |  N# }1 odeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
/ d) @, F; N- a4 S6 Z' hAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%, r7 z  O* a; @1 B0 y; M+ m; t: k
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
) T" E  m0 y; ~0 M1 J; j% D! iAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. & z7 e" ?, C( q# N- x; f
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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