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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.8 U8 O* x! L& w

! D/ M7 @# U' S' D7 |, D: Z1 wTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. + @; L# ]" [& I2 k7 [' O
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. ; k1 D; v2 n: S4 r3 s+ i" A) @+ c
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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1 e( ^3 `# q8 S0 [7 X  {9 D" ]: V1 JNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.( p7 l, i$ A* c1 t& |0 Y2 k" [5 C
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000., c. V2 I. k' t4 M& M$ V  }
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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$ A. t  g2 U) [3 w0 o7 H$ TTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ( O6 c6 P4 i" W. n) A: I

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
8 O! \) n4 L) s$ u) h) ~7 A 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 ; V) Q, |5 {3 W4 w- ?
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

! l2 N- Z' \. o+ p* A5 ]% |很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
% g6 r) ?& }# I! LWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
. J, n, N" s  `6 ^0 Hboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided& M* Z# z- T3 x# c$ X' l7 b& @
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,; ?, p% a+ p8 P* k9 t
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
, m/ U  G, N4 r7 J8 Amay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
. L  U* [" M& ~5 X* D4 v$ space of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
- G0 p# V* t% _9 x( @; f; g& J+ Mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
  Y& ^" y) M/ Z& b0 T" ]/ {year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
0 K$ z' r  @; Y& D3 q( Mhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
: {7 M2 |0 c5 [: kEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
2 R1 o) H' n  s1 |9 A! dhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%% f8 j# M/ }5 ^0 w, |. P
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta* i' z$ l7 w# h! N# D4 z( U
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new) {. c# p% i& T9 S( k
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals! o7 p% F" F5 V) S2 P) L6 P+ r
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is* Y+ s) o6 s$ L9 {
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
+ R8 E. C! C9 V5 S* t. t1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a* t; ]" k- W# S( u" q9 V( q, j4 Z
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in6 n5 e% k3 p9 D
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
) T9 z+ @% s8 t4 H9 h/ |$ \( i/ dunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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* {2 @: P! H$ h- Jresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s. E; U& s( w2 ^9 _! V$ N6 e# b6 i
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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' [! W( ~% }  T5 k7 d/ r% x( ~- Grapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.( W7 |: D! K2 N" K5 n: A7 A& \+ ^2 X4 h
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
5 F& M# h2 a7 l7 j# C; q' D' Cboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.+ e% \! V# V! l
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
) a  P( G; l& B: h3 f1 Dhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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8 i% a) D, f# y2 R9 c! [prices substantially eroded affordability and, even$ C% }* e) x( [0 m  N- u; c) H
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
2 T' ?2 M5 l( @! lon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
+ G7 w& g- b8 h1 h" s4 G3 ]The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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. D4 D" ?5 x/ T; Z7 t) ^* Z- r" f* wexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
. T, I* O! i0 v" u; Z) t4 O* qhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’4 Z' E$ r: P8 ~% m& W$ c
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,3 C/ v& C, L1 X0 M: S1 n5 n
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
# B4 K1 V! d- l( I4 i) sAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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