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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.% H" o! y4 F+ a% a& y) [

/ C' |4 i. m4 Q- g, a. E: d7 OTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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$ S9 p& c. F! L2 }$ @' b/ D8 EThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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" |3 p( p, n+ z' i9 t# A( z; D5 G"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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: b' p( M  _2 T( w! ^5 ~. `Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.1 X- ?' B' x! r5 U
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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4 n% H5 R* l% q8 D! E) mTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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2 [/ h( M1 U2 C3 _2 Y/ W4 bhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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% [. k6 ?- a9 f* q1 u( t' R) aTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,6 m2 S5 ~5 {6 X6 _% C" z# H$ M7 c

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。& e1 j- H) }" }
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 * I. ]" j% n$ Y7 g. K" i
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了" w* A1 Q1 Q# U) t# P8 d' H% D' O: W
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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( ?+ A% E( i' `6 {0 Z* ]boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton" o  w: b! `' z* d) Y: \, Q( }% R
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
8 Q* O: y4 r7 \. r; e( r2 ]2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,  g, u3 J# w1 a6 d: X* ]
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and* F2 X7 ~: i2 Z- c3 g/ u
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous6 ]0 g3 q; k8 x6 W% ^9 d
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed/ e# _, A! X, f4 L" t" v& [
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined8 ~: x8 [' A: s; i$ u; B0 c
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
' a7 u4 b) q0 {8 y, A$ g  b- j+ I* O# [prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this& a! B9 v( J' S! K
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,6 E7 q+ I( C; v( u2 U- ~) ^
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
& [+ Y2 G2 b! W1 Z; B30,000 new households will form in the province during5 j& j9 n) u( L3 y
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year., n$ T/ A  K+ D
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
  u8 h" l( E# a4 ihomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
2 K! _+ {: x% zduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals+ e" J* @9 r& h4 U, |- Y8 N
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is' b* r) f8 m, I, x! ?$ t1 Z! c
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
- z% K( g- X% g" `* @3 z4 n1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
2 e" ?8 |3 k8 Y1 t' Esales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
+ Y- y$ ?5 R8 h7 N- Q8 Abuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
8 X" T; w7 U. H# F1 ?- }) G5 Ktwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in9 `* ~( y) K/ C  p/ k
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
  b, \: f# ?6 K2 ~unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
. X4 Q' V( K3 U8 T8 Q/ m9 rrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the( G: U- ^9 c- m$ _1 M9 Q
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s# Q8 }2 G& Q5 d0 e% A
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
% c7 f' i9 h+ W/ a. gThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s# n3 g; s0 H$ k6 \7 n0 `$ e- L
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
2 {# b8 L2 ?: Q) e4 ?Although income growth was very strong, Albertan! n# L7 l2 T! b
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
& T9 _2 a; g% [3 F- }. L5 arelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale% R; P/ x( K9 _- Q  Y1 U
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even  j$ J( d* x/ ~6 W
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
; M0 P& ^9 n! G: C5 o$ R+ R% W0 B/ f7 fon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.* M, b8 l4 f1 V8 W) ?  b5 O. \
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
/ y! y1 |# w) e1 tresale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’4 P. l) _4 A& V3 \0 [
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
. A+ u( c+ `$ Z7 X* D) d" oAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%/ Z/ P7 [0 h0 w
leg down over 2009.+ g2 l: |( N. i6 [: G6 t! Y7 c
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,/ E5 R/ F$ z5 A- e
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments. f# g: `2 _) Y: I0 `

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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