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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.8 q: L- i$ ^/ l- h3 B" k# l
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. , b: a  ~2 J; E0 B' x

6 Z% ^2 @; D* |- {# i. VThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 2 [$ [. P5 X0 O! C. W3 L

6 ^( O9 p0 I4 X/ B7 p+ m0 j"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ' w( ^0 V0 a0 H4 b9 c$ A

; \% [9 H: F$ i  i# \Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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, |+ w! ^  f( r  J0 bTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ) E& V) T+ L+ S7 z
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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) d7 N( I+ Y: c% w7 m1 G$ qMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.   E& G  f0 ?  d9 E. V7 f* t

: s1 O' \% \0 d1 u" g5 zhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- @- Z2 Y0 z9 I9 }& {( P9 m
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
- O1 ?, \# R& r4 Y& | 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
5 S8 K; p& c9 L) |* p" N7 Y跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了$ N, j7 N" C5 ]/ R7 o
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its# ~9 f! S& Q* d$ H" H; g0 r
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton" o9 K4 k; I5 q" E( ?0 J9 ~
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to  l8 e& L% x5 Q: a* z7 a3 N
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household  C) E7 `- F+ e( _
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided2 r7 W" ~4 Y1 J. m& n& _& k- @
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,3 y3 q. F$ f  a3 H0 q  |% Z; M
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and$ p9 s7 k& \$ u& b' j
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
( F& p% w# L, space of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
8 n8 T: O1 b$ j. I/ Uprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined7 ^! @, x1 R, _
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year9 }) Z3 b% ^, t) l
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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! c( M8 F+ v. ?. D# h5 Lhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around3 a! a' @7 a: ~  {
30,000 new households will form in the province during
4 B6 G! `5 j* P3 R6 Q0 @2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
6 a9 P% }% j* H  e0 `" c! [Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s+ P* K& y9 H) A) S( f
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%& E$ k5 R: G9 n! c' k1 A0 M/ P
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta7 A1 v( Q) E% R, Y
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
- z$ |1 J% L1 B6 q$ P2 D3 Z( z0 Yhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
* z$ @* i% m2 e; P9 J" bduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging7 A! [0 w3 _0 o( X2 r7 z0 f
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories, H2 ~% d+ N1 G5 F8 w
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
1 K- V$ i5 T$ s0 [+ e- Y( n; \! {excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of* ~. N  A. q0 h  E2 |
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a, g! q+ _7 U9 z  R7 N
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive0 B; b2 k0 L, T+ ^
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in8 Z; o7 V% v, _* @1 g' m
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in1 S, A% B8 \* Y- G/ G4 X7 ^# M
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
: T/ m) D7 p$ T2 e* P" Hunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
& ^8 P2 G: P- W/ R6 F; {recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the7 a' A3 B+ U1 e7 a- S
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
7 b5 O" _- e0 s/ _( Hmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
8 X% E/ W% S( i) sof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s3 H$ j7 _  [1 m
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.5 k$ X* W! w# r9 m; }* g
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan& w8 m% i# r+ S. F7 W' S
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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3 Z- V& }/ W/ d5 O4 Lprices substantially eroded affordability and, even1 L, U* p1 c; ~8 O- V! R
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners" n. c3 j  g/ Q; H. o
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.. Q! V7 ]( O* L, Y
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average& W' P8 C( a9 s
resale price in February is evidence that past prices+ p+ R  o2 c7 O0 N2 f6 e% P' k+ a
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
2 k  `  g3 T4 X' L$ ]5 {homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’; k. Y2 L- @( ], I
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,, {0 l: T. S* T0 _
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 r3 ?0 R. J3 S  B) F" X4 h
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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3 h% U% w4 o9 r- r1 F1 h: ^% z[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 9 L2 l" q* S' _  r! h9 _
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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