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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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2 y& i7 u+ K3 H- F! a" @$ TTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. # _8 n' Q- y" S( N, J
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.) `4 ~$ m9 a0 l# e- V, E

# @- R* @" f' i' {) bTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.5 z* q6 h8 V/ _  Z& ~6 q7 z. j, w

' n& B1 L, D4 O. b: k"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 8 k8 A' Z- ~4 W3 b3 i" ^
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year./ h6 A) M, N+ l" P! \2 B

9 i* F2 a7 w4 g/ j# _Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ( O$ P6 C$ \- z6 I

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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" a& ]' F; Z% h2 WTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,$ F# C+ {4 P, ?4 Q
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
  p( l. @9 T5 B9 w 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。4 G  @0 j* ~7 n# G/ G
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 $ ?, C4 g+ X. N6 I
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了! n5 p2 M) b6 D, c0 u; ]' v+ P, i
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
5 W: @0 T: i& S: W. }Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
! k5 ~# w% U" v# r! W  Hboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton9 e( D  z7 `1 w2 l5 m* m
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
  i0 k$ _& b# U" Q: n  e2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household) x/ |: L4 g0 t, q7 \
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
0 Z8 C! m7 s$ V) afrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
/ [. r- M' J3 G0 k: p4 ithe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
* T) \$ {3 A! x! i9 C9 N: omay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
# S! k2 C0 H" [. o( C7 l  u2 ipace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
  Y4 c$ I. n+ F$ uprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined$ N( z2 K) G& p1 d( z6 N& y
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
4 r0 c6 Y, q6 s5 F0 lprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
) O( m% e+ J0 q. v* ]year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
; l- _' x2 F5 r& Ghomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
# A, Y3 Q0 j" x7 _1 f. u3 P30,000 new households will form in the province during$ }- F! g. O* i# [( y; C* V
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
$ d) G  @3 ?& s( A- h' j: jEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s" o! t& |8 a5 O3 v1 j
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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0 M& J4 s" k- K2 dhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new$ H$ O% c4 {! ^) _+ j: H2 E' @
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
  ~+ p! d7 ^7 u. u0 Iduring 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging, m8 O3 \2 t6 L) H$ g0 T
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories5 I' d* A& {' P8 {0 c4 k
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
  Z- W2 T3 ?. j& V' }- h. `8 rexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
' B9 _/ S- \9 F, `* h4 `) U( B1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
" C1 ]& t7 O- Ssales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive' p$ }. l2 v2 k8 P$ c
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
& g& X" ~6 o/ V; [two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in# j6 N& i' A% _
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
. ?+ ~, L& u' P) m; T/ {; j5 m9 qunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
. A- y4 ]9 g9 D3 m, Precorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
. r4 }1 P: a7 d9 v0 Gresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
# Q! N2 T3 p; pmajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories1 J- Y: L* U2 B( S* g
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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2 I, Z1 o( D' BThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s4 ]4 E% P! B% C5 h5 k% c" U" v2 E
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
# l. z3 S8 P1 ~) iAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
* ~) X9 s! R5 ?2 x. Z9 \4 A) Lhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
: I# W1 A8 C* P0 i( `9 irelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale$ e3 T& y& @- }+ }
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even2 R! S/ T" L+ H9 Z* @
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners. g0 z! o8 i' ?6 o% Q+ L, }
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.! E/ R0 A0 X9 W5 k1 P: @
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average% v+ U8 o$ ~+ j& v8 J2 O. L3 [
resale price in February is evidence that past prices1 Q% g1 G/ v+ k, A! `
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove6 v) a1 O5 B. [+ M5 I% N
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
5 n! G# k2 M1 o# Kdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
( C5 a) M- ?: V, x) {0 N: HAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%8 {( v0 U, v+ }
leg down over 2009.) n! P' D+ G2 |; t5 Y+ m# E# B; o- }

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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