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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ( U& ]; x- U3 [0 Q- F' h
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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+ y: `, S5 t4 T" X3 sTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year./ X3 e# R- q$ ^, L# ~4 E9 v+ v" O
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 6 ?( g' W/ f# s/ m' G3 h  ]& p
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
: T* O" I; f1 Z; f' D% I 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
$ e" c4 }* {' }( \跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 D& e; Q, Y) x, p很多人都回学校深造去了
3 W6 t3 X4 j9 D$ x( f0 B9 n嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta" D3 k+ L/ ~$ a7 D. N; g1 V/ d
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
/ w9 I2 [0 W& r7 I# j' f* @" Eboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton: B6 o# C2 w. X% A! r/ j8 v4 c
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to1 ?+ o- O" g3 S9 @1 ~' l. [
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" P# j& c$ W# k) ^9 G. b& c9 o
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
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the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and) p* D. b5 J! c" S7 r& w, A
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous! e# u3 n) N: n" x4 g* Z
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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, S8 y: t' ?0 x$ @prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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30,000 new households will form in the province during
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6 ~  \. j6 }  q- b# zEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta7 d6 A2 p& }3 ^
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new8 |. q9 g3 b4 G
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories1 n" _  W& R! F0 o9 q2 X# c' ]; q
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747  i2 K+ ^0 Q3 F+ j/ ]0 o, ^4 i! d
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 C, t' P5 Z2 t5 J. _1 p1 ?/ s
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s9 ?% e1 B. k3 }; z
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.7 T2 x& W0 l+ Y$ V! m( ^8 \
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan. ?0 @9 ?) a" K1 F% i# m. D
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even7 [2 f5 v- [! Z5 p
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners" {; G0 Y9 Q: G" F- x* J, Z
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices! S) [: ^# {7 n( b' g
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove# |+ F  m" n2 J1 N8 h$ L
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’- m- H+ c0 O% e' S6 B% S% {
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,) j$ A: M, P+ P9 o! [# z9 T
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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