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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. & F( A+ F5 a! a* A1 G+ |2 l5 s  B+ c
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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5 B# [/ }% G& A& @" ZNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.) k8 u( n, L7 O

# u* v  t# {' k) p5 ZTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.. {8 ~& x3 s5 e) ]0 ]
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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9 a4 e% {! O- f+ Z* Y, M( X+ q. TMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
+ D' r7 W/ y8 D$ N- D 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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1 i" w, S9 u) O[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
2 |( y' ^6 x( H跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

/ L7 [5 U: m9 G# t1 V) W* s1 Y很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its0 T( d# N- ~* {) L
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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( K- m' P+ F% T' F% G: I8 K, N) k1 j2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household+ _  I6 G2 t  `- [' A! s
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided0 v5 _* `9 E) X& [# E
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 D3 b% ~, b3 q
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and( a5 ?+ ~* }# W  B9 f' R+ c
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous1 _& w4 E& `% |3 v- @/ p
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: D, I) m' ]$ U; f3 ~9 j, X* zprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
. ^) e5 N* I  u' k0 a$ {to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around& x9 d, O4 @& `' T
30,000 new households will form in the province during
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Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s& [. I  V; ]1 E  e) i
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
2 r, x& [" D. M: q9 C" M$ X+ J" \during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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3 v; W0 z: b( I- R5 M, Nsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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" O2 n- b3 `; a/ ]excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of9 m  @4 i6 J; i5 {5 W, B5 L  A
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
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buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
8 j- Y5 n4 `" dunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest' |2 M9 t8 a  j0 a  K2 @
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced- ~8 _  k, f0 B) r8 ]
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average8 z1 }7 d; e: E* ^" F* S
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’- m8 Y+ _) [3 ^
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,4 z/ [1 c4 A( A( W
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,* q* J: o- M- o/ L5 X, E/ y/ K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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# z$ `, T7 v3 D& ~[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments: }6 q/ B$ p7 E8 K- a

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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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