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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics./ [5 z! s& \/ _- q  s* L8 F8 o9 j
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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; j5 ^6 X( j* KNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.# ]( A4 `+ {2 |. Z9 Q$ B

+ [, h$ E0 Q* d5 H% WTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.4 G- F; a* c5 i1 R0 `" `
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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. X" Z. P+ ^+ q* I, Y( GTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year./ i+ y( u, I( d0 a. n* A% _

9 ~9 w' p- l/ G6 l4 D6 n- bMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes," r9 U; U5 G0 U1 h$ @6 P" Y

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。& Z- N4 s$ P9 v5 |' o
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。3 M+ [& G0 n! N: L+ U/ m( ~3 V
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
, P" G. g# b  N& C跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta- g4 ~9 f" I% o9 ~0 v
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
' z! W3 L. A- e' f* f6 ^6 c1 lboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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5 S+ n4 c" t2 v* Y: S9 F2 Lformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided) {# y$ O) a& Y. o
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold," B0 E' E0 f; Z& ^. s
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
0 Z0 `& p6 c! ^: n6 P, p0 fmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
9 G( o7 J2 b, V8 d2 U: T/ h: @pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
- b: a  a1 f. |1 V( m1 Vprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined, W, S; F" F9 X" _$ T! x
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year4 ?8 q3 R3 g- @0 q  m
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 R3 U$ K4 S8 l* t7 w* {5 ^) m
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
$ g: s# h9 j8 s1 C4 qhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
! q& Z2 j/ N# mEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s8 h, ^8 X3 _. c$ E
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
$ j( v+ _$ R0 G7 x, bduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta9 ^9 r1 @: C$ H4 d
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging5 z$ q9 N* d, @3 l
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
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sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
; V" g' q8 g% O# S- ]! }: zbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
* e5 E2 E* A+ J7 s9 V+ |/ u  Dtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in" S4 ]5 R0 F- a
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747- g% q1 L3 X& x: v) n; H) l
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest$ ?; q6 m! _, I0 K% m; i/ Q
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
, U1 o4 V1 x5 P4 a2 Fresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s% m0 w/ J) f! `- ^2 f, l
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.% u% _( g7 h6 O
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan# C8 s9 u. y% [; ~6 n* l% ?" Q2 Z$ p
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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1 g2 `2 A4 g3 r4 u) |7 Yprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
" O4 P' j9 R. k. BThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average2 j2 I) }& q5 o! z2 S
resale price in February is evidence that past prices$ E4 X* g4 r* Y8 i1 ?/ Z( O# y
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
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deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
) P. |" T" `8 s' _. h( J1 o  V# d/ A0 gAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%3 z% S  x( d1 t
leg down over 2009.
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  |4 P3 u9 _6 }1 B[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,( U0 Y+ ^1 F$ |
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 6 }# B3 c! q8 b+ Z3 B# U% V1 Y
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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