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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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' l( ^6 x; ?- z( v" u! @/ pThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. , I, h4 h! N- e/ ^$ m. l( c
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. / @1 s' p0 L1 |2 ]+ d1 N

$ D: c$ Y( I# r  M+ k3 [5 S& o" ?& K/ {Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.) k! U/ Z# r6 Z2 d, i% m: x
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.1 ~2 [4 J7 ^9 I& ^$ X  a2 R1 w. k

& A2 A2 W4 t+ c/ q$ T; c" v# l5 j# g"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. * i  ]/ w% A9 x% ~, v0 w
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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) r2 E# b2 P/ }Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 0 L; Z( s) q4 u& r1 S/ E

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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* s, Q$ M2 G4 pTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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: n! ?( b" _9 V0 t1 F' C8 H( H) J[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。( L: p8 e6 B7 n0 K/ m; K
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。9 p0 u* L7 ]: k, }7 j0 l
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
3 H9 ^* l' @: ^$ {  s5 y跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

* W% u, |1 h+ Q+ f很多人都回学校深造去了4 M. {6 w9 y1 ?( v. j
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta: z: i4 ^' r/ s' X! u& h  R0 b
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
1 N1 |! ?- m. h0 o! n- F: Wboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
  ]% Q! h2 c* b1 O+ x! }. Pare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
. o2 ^1 O% d5 z  ~8 u8 z7 Y% ^. W2 X; @2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household$ t6 _+ H& B. q" w0 w2 J
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- S6 q" y2 D9 g# b" y+ n+ i1 ~from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
6 L' v) v, P) uthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
8 F. W1 Y& v1 i, }& Kmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous! V" w& y5 z% q- E- U$ c7 L
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed  e" E( y) }. w4 F6 Q
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
5 X* S1 x, h) w2 y, d# W! L0 v7 ?to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year+ f/ z' g: G6 S0 s1 h0 W
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
4 A( h5 G' ~+ n" Lyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
: s3 a4 {% |2 j2 y9 Q- |homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
; t  p% ~: K' U3 l30,000 new households will form in the province during! d( G" M* M; J) |; O1 r  |8 N
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year." |  B! o6 L2 A* T" p* a6 E7 A
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s& g1 N& x+ A* D! M& f4 c  M# @
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new# |2 [& ?" R$ S
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals- n" _5 Q& H9 U4 Y% i
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging/ l# B: K0 K. K0 f+ [
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories* z$ L1 T( Y6 k& v$ |
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
  }/ ~$ G. W' ^; eexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of; C, h# R, w+ b1 k% h
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
: l4 J8 ^8 b% g% l4 \! Qsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive8 F- h6 Z( y3 o' U! |% v
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
( L9 y9 Q" Y( K8 ?two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in' w$ D# }& n# a% i# z) ]
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7474 z) b- `9 j6 e5 }- G  Q
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
/ N0 k% Q+ h" Q9 H% drecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the$ x/ e5 z: ]& s* `
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
' ?3 ?4 a3 B" {3 r2 }% x0 Omajor cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
; E8 n$ b$ v  l) DThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s( y) Z$ d+ ]/ I# k" z9 t0 t
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
8 X+ h! I9 z3 y$ A$ i' aAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
, Z1 B5 L5 N7 y/ d9 P2 Ahousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
! j% q* q1 `& T, z) S2 F1 H1 lrelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
& a/ @! p! g5 G2 |1 iprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
8 T6 e0 X9 }. N6 a* J$ z9 Nthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
( m+ v# m2 L, x5 n3 y5 ^6 I& mon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.( H" `6 C. a1 l' c7 P. T+ P9 S
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
6 B& g0 D: O- l3 r' V% A! B4 Gresale price in February is evidence that past prices
9 W: {5 f1 y5 J/ \1 }exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
( i7 T7 H6 P6 ?/ @: s1 lhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’( H3 `3 @0 u* [
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
# R+ c& C  n0 q6 OAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
( T2 f7 M) j6 D4 @3 T+ e* Qleg down over 2009.
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,8 Y* H) g. Z, r2 f
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. & z6 U5 N1 m+ r8 q: X% l' o  a
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments# H7 n! z, X% j$ K

) K3 v; _; N) W, g[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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