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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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+ X9 Q+ G" B6 R: P* L3 p; ]% {& WTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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/ O4 L/ n" h8 \1 y1 [$ }The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. $ D' t( l# j6 J

2 I( O* |. M$ F"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 9 D! W' o' h# e( J9 X
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.2 Z9 h- m# b* p. k

( w$ ?( j, V6 Z6 sTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  B0 A( ]+ k+ Z1 w

& R- ?$ W" c: [  I( @2 Y"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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. @: s9 K' q- C2 o, }1 h1 aTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,. |8 a8 i# h5 t6 Y

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。4 p7 T% u" M; v5 Z8 c6 D1 J# z4 h
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。% U0 A5 D; Q$ v2 J9 u5 J9 |

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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 , c  T& O/ @3 g: [3 Q( s# k$ u% Z
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
1 u8 Y& h( V2 `: ^. t3 cWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its! H. d- A& _- L* _' i! D
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton9 N2 ?9 z0 X3 k( S2 v
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to3 }; A- K" C# a7 _0 \8 O* O
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household* r) j" k5 C( _) K  ?  X# I
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
8 e$ a# H4 f5 s; a! Lfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,/ F# f! M# c' Z; z  ?! W( z6 }
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and% n' f1 C5 ~6 Z6 C$ L7 u& y0 m3 o5 ~
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
5 I' a% k# Y' c- v3 a" apace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed  q* y0 K5 {% \: R
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
3 J- ~% b7 ^8 W3 h0 lto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
# b( B) X( ]0 D/ r# ?3 K# H' nprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 X( L* D+ W2 [6 v& c, o
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,) \. l# S. N: r5 U: ?$ }
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around& L, `% `  s- k* h7 e- t
30,000 new households will form in the province during
$ C0 E* ~7 k3 P9 k2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.9 B3 V& I3 {1 a7 |. C3 n
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
4 B8 _; _  g+ S' @homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
. S7 }1 M* w. Z) b1 ]+ zhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals8 K7 q' V3 c9 V4 H. q
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
# H+ Y2 F! Q2 b' M+ K% d7 n6 Esales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
$ B& y2 R+ K! N, g3 S% \clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is# Z+ l! z- N+ F6 o+ x3 V* {
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
8 V1 R/ ~( \! W4 u% U6 [7 c$ D# ]# d1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a+ |, j3 }$ c' T4 w( W) e; n
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
' J' X4 U  }  O3 }* pbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
8 J5 Q1 G+ E- c: I) o9 p4 atwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, I& T! y5 s0 O- Wunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7475 L) `9 [; v1 y
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
  l* [6 n9 x7 L; g) N" P$ trecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the8 E: k+ f8 x& I/ S9 a
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
6 W& [( A0 s+ f3 Q) f/ ^major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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% G$ n6 o7 E/ x% K& r+ lrapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.9 |+ w/ e/ r# f8 \' R
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
& s; F/ Y% j* W) S1 [boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.  D+ \7 U' D% t, Y+ J2 S( _% z
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan4 V/ x% C% z3 z  }# G
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced. {" x2 a1 U5 T- ~, d3 h$ b
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
/ f7 d* e, \3 U9 q/ j  |prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
+ ]( g7 r  l( z2 a' v$ L/ Mthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
% Y& p% C$ I6 ]; @7 t& p) Don average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.$ G+ F' W: L1 p9 `1 w
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average. l: F( T8 G  q# A# a
resale price in February is evidence that past prices; M7 R# l: Y, W
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
; [% [  R+ X6 [% {* I+ S# i# Bhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
6 U1 o3 Z$ h; M% Adeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
7 c- ?. s0 j' }Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%# W# W! s" o4 `; \
leg down over 2009.
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 4 g: M7 N* G4 ?1 U2 ?2 k0 X5 B4 M3 q4 C
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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