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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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( g9 D( M4 S& D4 ?9 DTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. % Q& }8 A0 W$ B: q
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 7 {4 Z9 @$ B& P$ W
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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- y7 n' G  L" j/ `$ h( W* H, kTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.* c, V2 g# H# ~- V. ]" `
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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8 j0 I- F5 m* y& ~% bTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.& p2 h& a& y9 j9 I( o4 |0 N

( ~( a# I) n6 k, J4 U$ W& h% G- N3 O  cMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. , t1 z' J  f, ^  F" \
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,3 K0 B3 ?# Q2 g( A

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。1 v9 u& W: W% g1 n( j
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。  v' w  ^$ P  L; w! @3 V7 o# K1 Z
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
) U! \8 B+ F2 A5 \跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta% y: G8 V: p; K+ K
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
6 _& N/ [# N& s1 A! g2 J+ Iboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
8 E9 M4 e2 |: I7 V/ s  Ware cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
0 w! R1 S5 |& X# r5 W3 N7 a2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ d: k$ R4 C% Z6 p0 ?( b# m
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
, y( p& X+ _+ e: a$ r. _( tfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,/ Y0 c' U0 J0 z7 J
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and) K& Z( j0 \3 ~* ^) |
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous) y) a( i4 N+ K* H
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed* [8 q* {5 b5 g8 {& G9 l2 d
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
# T0 ^3 F! G6 t5 U6 ato 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year6 s1 G; O1 ]+ B( t( C8 B: K! O
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this; j+ J$ T8 Q& q6 Y( K* v
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,% M& E- k# A( U4 l2 X) `4 ^5 l
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
- ?# p/ R7 b+ H7 t7 D. a/ V9 m' @30,000 new households will form in the province during0 Y3 ~1 `/ z2 u& y  E0 j; j
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.- f: Z* N, }& Z3 ]$ |& N
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s4 r* Q" D+ B6 d' F* Q. |
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new! p- N3 [& f: U( F7 f0 n
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories! s& D5 @4 M2 f$ j7 Z- h
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is, w6 N) A9 O1 `) C  E5 m2 u; ~
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of' l8 c- R% F6 |- v% }# Y* C
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
8 V8 `" ~- f" V  I' Psales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
1 x$ x, T+ U+ _) P, _buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in, u# e. D% B' S. G3 \% _, h
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
9 u! S- h4 R( |0 ]* Iunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747( l; O' b1 s0 M. ]' ^; s9 ?9 S
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
% `, Q2 B' |" S( p: Krecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
. A  h; K' `2 {resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s. v9 q+ U" N4 X7 b/ Z
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories3 V) P/ g4 g4 p( r6 v8 A- E
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled3 E. F) S$ L' q. A3 t% H
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
9 s  W- T+ C, ]& I0 v- QThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s4 x. `$ X4 u2 p1 ~$ l) Y9 i; e
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
+ R6 N1 p# D1 q) ?. c/ TAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan
# |# a8 g" @0 D+ ?/ phousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
! m; b8 S/ X& g9 Orelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale" N* \5 o% ^1 Q
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
1 N8 u/ N% }0 {* J& u& \though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
/ E6 c2 b6 Q1 b& t! J3 \) O1 fon average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
" S2 n; K7 a4 q0 }1 J1 _The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average- f7 r4 |; m1 P( ^
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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1 o* o( u$ D* z( q2 e. N% O$ ehomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
( A' `& {4 u( e0 ^7 \) U7 }! k9 ydeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
  S# j' @7 A' v' V& vAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,& y/ V& b2 G. k6 K+ b* x. O
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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