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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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6 d1 i8 T4 @5 t8 q"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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7 O, ^. ~% n6 l* G" PNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.& P3 M+ n1 A6 j, }
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.6 p$ X4 J& Y4 b  z4 m
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ' m9 ?$ v% p2 A2 S4 d
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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# y% J4 U6 F! c3 yMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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/ j! |/ A2 s( L6 o5 J, w5 nTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。3 E% v+ P1 z4 T9 U: [. z- _1 D9 N
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。; `: o; D+ ~( m& ?+ Q; |4 \
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 4 u6 b$ X0 \7 F6 h1 m4 Y+ F6 X, @
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了" C6 d- V' b- L3 b$ ^
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

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Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its4 o4 G7 k% m, L3 V5 ?$ x
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
! I* R1 s, b8 h* Mformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
0 _$ y: C  k( q2 Y4 O4 k- Vfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,( D& ~: T$ n" L/ Q% a4 G2 ^
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
- t( [" w9 y# r+ Nmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous: \, Z6 `" x" y1 u9 f
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
: @5 m8 V5 `4 r0 F  c- l  jprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
3 V! U$ P5 }' W" Ato 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
' q5 r, [3 b' L' dprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
( n2 D+ O! b- Z7 p, S: Hyear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
/ f+ j$ @+ C2 h* f0 [' \& Ghomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around+ B5 K/ ]4 a  }' y# S+ D
30,000 new households will form in the province during5 p7 d  S% |' K) E  d
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
7 r6 ~# r& ]% {  ?7 p* lEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s5 M; U/ y- j" w* b# z; z1 C* ?
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
2 D3 a; `1 x7 e/ F4 y0 ]0 pduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
. A& w& }# V: Thas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
5 x1 F2 D2 i# U1 y: V5 Aexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of: D7 U) m3 v* B6 @+ r2 z* u
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
, [7 a/ ~. W- A) F) Csales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive3 S( j! [, R# X
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in: k: \( R3 N, z/ m% F
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in* z+ _0 {# V' n0 A
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; I4 _0 D& Y/ O: g
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest/ D1 G1 y6 y# D3 {' E
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the3 ?( B) I2 z; A) I1 d( b
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
& ~' g7 N  Y5 k! T% ]major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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! B8 D$ M5 ]. D* y1 d8 [The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s) ^1 Y9 U4 [  @6 o( j6 s6 I. y1 X
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.) V3 |; w  g6 R/ U& k$ M0 N. x
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale% H6 l5 E+ Z; J$ S; h' v
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
5 A, Y2 W# p/ [& z5 b9 bthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
9 g" n/ N6 r  W: h/ ]7 o5 ^on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.# t5 p. ]* k' w' z3 n0 H
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
3 w: }" r7 E, g$ Fresale price in February is evidence that past prices
6 |9 _  v: [2 [exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove7 }+ Q6 ~4 p% M
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’8 }8 ]1 k0 T- G, E1 ^
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% Q' r+ X2 T3 {
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,. S; e8 K" S% ?& m5 n6 P7 g7 m
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 5 g) r* x. A4 _5 e; J% \; a' b" s
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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