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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.$ r+ S6 d+ Z# {  s& W0 J

7 K' R) @; w% R, k/ \! t5 J  OTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 9 m5 `9 G; @4 B  O0 S: K" }

3 K0 i& D* B7 `/ `# u  ]% d! sThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. . w2 |/ b% x3 Q* h6 k/ N
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. , j4 l$ O5 y6 I
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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  @  I0 A+ ~) W' d- ITD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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! I! H. @$ \4 q% u( \. ?TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。  K& q% l/ Z# ?4 g
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 , n% S/ r% f# s, C
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
4 }' \  E. g+ d, y9 [. r9 bWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
+ w8 s/ k; c, h/ d3 aboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
9 d5 U9 R9 ~: \0 G& Care cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
4 l6 \1 c4 b! r+ h7 ~) C( `2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
/ M3 i/ C& m( R: m, V0 r* zformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
/ g' p/ ]1 m1 U, P* y7 t( C' W& D# v1 hfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
5 ?2 d# t) v' `4 Xthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
0 ^9 ^/ O9 a( g: w1 |  Pmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous, ]3 X. U7 g  n" O2 [' @
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed0 d6 t% Q2 ^) {
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
& y. R; \  c) U; i8 z6 Nto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
% u4 t. v' u  B% t6 @5 s' V, iprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this9 v4 H* h* N9 b: B- v
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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30,000 new households will form in the province during; b+ `6 C( O: z+ Q4 q
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.1 p* V: b/ o: A* c7 T: Y
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
' w3 V8 |7 j' z; {4 H5 a) _( @homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
# u) {3 J: A) vduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
' K, g& o* D* ]1 J/ Hhas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
9 m  {' E  B5 _* m2 h* B3 @) P1 Iclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is+ p# U5 P! x0 {* f
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
' ^2 U! B% C7 j) T# ]0 c1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a: P# O+ D7 g0 |9 L' P" i
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
- u6 \7 g" H& Abuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in& i" r2 {! W2 S& f* o# D0 o' w$ g0 S
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in9 }8 j0 n6 P6 i, T* v, u) L
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747( V, @5 X2 R  _: Y
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest3 [3 j( z5 z, A+ W
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the1 p4 \$ `# K- G' V6 i" p
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled$ N% V; x6 B: v8 O4 s* y: l
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.& q  c: B/ N- w* D( N
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
& C* j1 ], y2 Yhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
9 Z+ G. Q* R  G% L: a1 i5 G/ ]' arelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
' l7 X# k  K  z* l5 N7 k( Qprices substantially eroded affordability and, even' i; P' F, \6 d" f5 D% _- k/ f2 ?
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners/ N* W% c- K: ?
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.  b- [' S$ Q- Z$ i7 I
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average% |" W% B" v1 w
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’, S$ o: X1 S( ]
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,- [0 i5 l% ^! E$ {
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%4 s0 m% ?: w8 T& H, F' C- u& G1 O
leg down over 2009.* ^2 X9 k( `% t2 X  Z! C9 e

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,( l3 \" X3 n' J& C- n( K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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