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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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, R; S$ B/ o! i: Z" _: qTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. 0 B  K0 D0 g* ^  M' f  S
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.   r' Y! R, |% a, p8 U4 u
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller./ x, v: f. F# J$ D/ F7 A2 b9 i( G

) w7 r+ E1 ]9 [& c/ hTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.4 n& q/ ~$ M) o: b

& C/ _) v2 n  j, |Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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+ v4 B7 R; v( p1 V5 z" ?TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,9 i' T! p8 y) M

9 N. F) S: F( H1 s[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
3 F& C7 N* d1 m9 {0 Z1 L  C/ L% \; i 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 3 ^" |' E1 u- f, x/ D9 e
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

9 q0 X; b$ E2 y' L很多人都回学校深造去了$ r6 l! e' X' g" g1 ~: k
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
1 S) U1 X* B4 b0 O" S4 {6 O1 uWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to" z' I/ e8 t+ Q; g# S; r
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
7 @$ M, j+ K' n$ C- h% z4 Wthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
2 Q) h% h! y9 f/ Qmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous, O' T0 O- `, y6 W  c% [( w8 p$ u
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed4 i: y' u1 N7 W6 ~" ]( e: C
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined4 d; C1 T  U  X
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
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year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,/ ?4 w4 x* A( b* ^' x2 k1 x8 I; ?5 Y
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
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) x' i  A1 ^1 y2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
* i( S) C1 N4 s1 P5 HEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s+ B8 W( J( E( ~( r1 O1 U
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%5 Q( }. b+ Q3 O: z6 J
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta, N* F9 j; k2 y1 ^
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
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1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
; t: k& r! x$ w3 E6 ^0 Bsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive' ~& p- S& o2 K2 z5 Y0 l
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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5 U4 q5 K4 n% P/ wunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747; c+ C( T1 u% W5 D5 ], V0 i4 {
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
4 U8 P1 m6 z  B; w  n" `1 ^4 crecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
+ u5 }, x1 o5 a. C: Z4 H' |resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s# ]# l7 ?8 m& D3 a
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
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boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.; U: S9 g- q/ p& K# _4 S
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan# A. b& |( N+ _- v. a
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.' v  _* N/ T5 i
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average! X. P5 D: b5 L* t6 X
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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/ T& I7 g+ A- KAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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% S' u9 q) s* ~- {4 m9 bhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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