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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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: s! I5 B2 m9 S* s+ n& hTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. % c  I# d+ B1 n3 X4 O/ r

( i- K7 M$ K7 hThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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6 L$ M' j+ J( b3 z  E" @+ o"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. # w! K1 g& `$ C4 s5 b7 N+ z
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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& U6 R7 U' s! E1 J5 A. JTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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- ^2 j2 l7 L3 P/ m' b2 y9 D9 F5 u"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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* Y* M/ ^9 A3 Q4 C% aTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.& |9 _3 Q2 ~* p/ |
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. 3 F$ I( ?$ n  \5 O5 [6 A
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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5 U# x$ `! h7 Z! p; ?, ]0 R9 DTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,; N, y7 d1 n# E* ]

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。: F( I0 s1 }3 C, ], Q
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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2 C6 a4 C; F1 k% M[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
2 }/ w+ O; X" |" F跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta8 |; K& \( z! x% t# W# p
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
! a8 q* s2 t" V3 Z7 b& zboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
* j! ~9 Q8 i; Z% A' r; lare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
9 J, v3 m+ J5 [7 _2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" e) K5 O# d, g* v! l7 X) H
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
! b% S0 y$ x1 _+ _, w' E4 `2 Vfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
! h, V/ ]* t4 E9 h4 G! pthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and4 J: ^3 T! d. M6 }' O
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
4 H# u( u3 I; n, C9 o3 E9 i% Kpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
4 l1 ]0 f. d$ T2 U* dprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined& \0 K2 D( ?1 n
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
" i; V- [; @# O8 Z# ~  [prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
9 U% |. K7 ]4 ^5 K( ?year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
  h" n; Z5 e! Lhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
/ z( N! U; S: }& I7 `* d$ W3 ], B30,000 new households will form in the province during- _$ n' w2 h  S: c. l
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
' q: I1 n: x- ^; s; V- OEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s& c1 @+ s- i3 d$ ~) O* G& T
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
% D1 r# }# G5 e6 L, jduring the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta+ F- ~* [5 s" p$ K. e! d+ @( O* \, u
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
; A( Z3 I/ Y1 G9 zsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
7 V2 X. I# k5 I: Zclearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
4 N. E* [6 `& n9 z. i" Dexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
% d2 m- ]3 R+ |8 N/ K% ^1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
# p& J: k0 e- Ssales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive: [. X  B; r' d/ ~/ D) C
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
9 Y  |: Q+ Y" f( t/ J. ltwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
  U4 [3 y) p: x; P* D0 ]4 f4 kunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747: z% r. t0 L! R% t# ]
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
6 k- i0 d2 S) ~7 N* ?5 arecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
9 ?$ F1 i9 y) zresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s! X" F: E0 ]. e0 u
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories
6 i" y1 r, g1 r: X) N) Lof new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s) y7 F. X" A3 ?
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
$ p5 j; ^! c# A* @: h, _Although income growth was very strong, Albertan; a1 `$ m" j* |
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced& v  t2 g  c( ^- n
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale7 ]; C6 j0 S4 w: V( h
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even8 ?# B* M# G5 w# S% m% T  q: f  U
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners& {# J) l, H- o, P- P& w
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
: x3 s5 t8 a4 [5 zThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
9 i, i; k. s: }( e  \resale price in February is evidence that past prices
+ t) G9 H; o* D( D7 Xexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
' T4 u' Y8 S0 L  B5 i& W0 Ihomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
4 i5 e7 i8 R. ]- H' r) ]* ^deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,7 I& `4 K, r3 o) s2 a( H) ~
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%; ?, I8 @2 g# ~6 j5 _
leg down over 2009.# G# _; k4 y$ N; \

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' _  ]  H! D6 t9 c2 D
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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