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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ( L. r- s0 [, L/ s
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.1 p/ `7 m0 a( B, C3 c  \8 n1 }1 I4 x
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.5 j, p7 ]& t7 o8 o" O
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year." f( L7 M! ~- r; ?$ M& G0 R5 q! T
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
; n3 t9 h0 n0 J( ~( ^ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 . I% p/ s) L% D6 E& M) T
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

  }5 i0 D  o/ `  |很多人都回学校深造去了
# x; c. o$ ^  G* O# X: X嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta; T, R, ?# r. c0 O. q! m6 ^
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its6 i/ R9 ~9 D- V2 `+ H7 _
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton* u1 s7 x* y' P
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to1 ?! G0 _( n- K  V; C
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household" i# x3 V6 u( e' y
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
7 R. M/ v  f% c, Pfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,, ^7 d0 `8 E+ z6 j( _
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and! o% a% Q% z7 d: ^4 W5 T( K
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous/ v& r3 S  C! @4 b
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
& @- O& B5 C& c! x" Vprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
: A6 b* f& j( C* I" k% J3 s6 {to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year( e, b2 d; l4 C$ [" B8 r# B% k0 f* b
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this* S3 r% I; {$ H  j+ K, T6 W2 i+ A8 s
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
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30,000 new households will form in the province during
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+ k5 l' y: }2 b; S( L/ pEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new: i% E" C9 o% n8 R! b$ x7 A
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
$ S: M: n. |' W8 L. J6 u  L; B. Msales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
2 j. {" j) ^3 q$ M* C, fbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
& w; E# p0 `" A# c/ i3 ctwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
( V/ j! A! B. M4 M) l, `/ hunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,7478 N. w: ^: V# E6 I' Z+ F& o
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
' l$ v, J, ^% a# P& Frecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
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" T: T& S5 u) v5 ~( `# Q  g% hThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan- z1 a1 I, ]/ o$ ]) G1 Z9 h
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced4 J5 `0 c  L. H4 h! T
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
" ~' {$ A3 Q9 Kprices substantially eroded affordability and, even- s6 K; F5 a# t% m
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners0 p+ J" y: K1 R: Q* f
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable., x1 v! A7 ~$ C' I) C
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove$ U1 ]$ J( g: K* _
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%4 y& S0 g  J8 M9 G: R- N+ z  Y; o$ L
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,, H$ z0 T% ]- C+ p% m$ F# G8 g+ W4 O
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 4 Q7 L% g" t) w9 f- R! ^
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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