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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.2 ?! y, B/ N/ U2 x, C

8 ]2 b3 A6 P, D. ?* u& |TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. & i' G" }5 r" o0 T

  K: g; i$ h0 `4 c% X. @. |The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. - `! G: q" [( t) D0 h5 k+ k  m
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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/ B0 O! x0 u. M0 Z; Y4 v& p  l4 DNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.# ]0 @1 D5 T0 d6 A- k( ]5 j

# D' Q' |  w8 ]" LTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.2 t; o' ?" g8 r" X
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 1 j- k* q/ `" R
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.  f1 K+ T8 N0 J1 `% h2 [

$ R( v# k: c' A& A: o) {Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,6 i4 z& q& s1 b2 k( I9 u4 G

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
1 D% j: l# }: H- \4 d 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。- S( _. S; C6 R
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
+ z6 a: h# T3 Y7 D3 l2 N跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

4 E' _: ~" O1 A" ^5 k; c' \/ O很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
. h$ l+ g5 V' p" GWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
3 F, r0 n9 S! Bboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
/ d# n5 L) N4 x4 D: Y, hare cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
2 H0 U4 x9 s$ a/ U( C: n0 i1 q2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
% q4 y; j/ w' s% \formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided# A6 m) y) E: J& q
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 M" p' r- Q8 D* n* Z0 |, x% h
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and' G# w8 `' c' u) l" ^3 f- `
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
0 W+ F( m( [& Y" {- Q/ D/ Ppace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed1 C9 F) t$ w5 Y5 {9 I
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
/ A4 \& k; l' W* `to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year  X8 y0 E0 P) d  P
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this+ b; V& a+ E: k' z
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,) o6 w& U9 J7 e- q! Z* M
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around/ v, v' p* J- z7 Y2 ?
30,000 new households will form in the province during- P- @3 }4 S7 t/ E  h5 ^' c
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
: d0 X( b  s. j3 s; ~Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
% R5 P& ~) b; B1 _. W. C- G2 U$ Uhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
$ V3 y4 L* t$ d5 ]( `during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta5 k" O! r) p; s1 [/ A3 U( u( e8 P0 B
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new" \/ v6 j# ]) y/ R
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals  }' w+ G5 z" T% J; o8 u4 U/ V
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
, O9 L6 c% V2 U( P& gsales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
* i1 A3 W$ o4 O0 c6 n8 j$ R% O) c1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a7 s# b1 S2 s% t
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive, [3 Q- S1 c. C
buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in6 _/ h) u. f8 b4 i  I4 h# A' n
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in3 U2 q2 W: K  _  }. [0 q
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747" v9 ]! {. H7 e  u8 J. d# H
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest, |4 N' y5 x# [+ N! f. [
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
. I' y8 A7 b+ i: N0 O) W2 c4 A& [resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s4 K9 X6 K3 l/ R5 X
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories- J5 e  w/ g4 |) a/ t& ^" [
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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2 o9 K1 {3 p$ F: o% Z8 ?/ o- k- mThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s% ]( y( l) d1 U3 _, W  E) c
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.' n( e5 T$ t. W7 P8 }! I
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan% }8 G3 p! \. E9 H$ P
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced- C2 ]1 a9 j; l8 J
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale" D2 \5 @. f; W1 ]" W
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even+ R# l0 ~* r4 x2 ^1 ^
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
  b" H) B* z. @/ {on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
$ X4 W( I3 v, S) xThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average& ^: u6 u( ~7 `, v* p
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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; Y6 v, Z5 c" H/ k( e9 ^homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’' N* G  x# ^* L! x4 g
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,5 M4 l3 X8 W) l$ ]1 [6 |) ~, Y
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%- P4 |  q3 e4 x9 ^8 M
leg down over 2009.
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,( b  C, n( H) _- K) ^1 ?' K
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ( W+ [4 \+ S. @
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments& N$ s! w9 t3 I' s

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