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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. % E% |6 q0 G' u

4 ~& ^' }, K8 p2 v) kThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. $ k; Z  O& P9 t' G* |/ u! }
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.' W+ s$ P4 ^- f' U# L- I

; E/ R* ^/ s. Z  |3 ^5 [' u+ [TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 0 t) }7 U. r  {) A! G' x

3 H  R3 }) y$ }, N. X% c$ VTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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5 d% m; X* K+ {6 G9 r7 aMeanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层
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) b* t! `) ?5 E% zTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
: K3 t# d0 ?8 `2 x/ H$ @ 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。# t6 k8 T( s2 [# C3 o5 e' w

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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 $ e: f2 n+ e& V: y
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta* }' q1 G. @0 R$ e- {2 j
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
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are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to; T" S  B3 c1 Y, g8 \
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household( ], d$ l% ]5 W$ J" k
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided. B) G  i" T+ o
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,, B; b3 C. c; ]) Q+ p
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
3 e  U0 U7 r( V8 Q4 l$ X7 K6 R  I% pmay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
  W9 b/ p. d# J0 Kpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
0 c# f! K8 j/ w2 S* M8 s5 }precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined! v4 }) W4 |" J; G
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
$ P; s' F1 q: Z4 b9 Z' mprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
# m  _4 n5 D5 g1 h( c9 D30,000 new households will form in the province during. ^# w6 D2 ]7 A
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
/ p- L: q# O2 ]3 X& P! V/ X( yEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s5 o  P! K3 V9 C: E; [7 R
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%1 l5 ~3 n- |( `
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta8 w2 ]  q8 D( v4 a
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new% Y' z$ }* m: }3 s0 ~3 S4 O
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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0 M% s; C( A  U( B; r5 X) ~3 }excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
* A' E- g+ b3 B- h1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
' ]3 q( ?. q. {1 f& nsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
* d: P$ m4 Y: o+ X4 A7 xbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in6 \* G. B/ ?# v9 q5 @1 d
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in: k/ u/ v: b* R& x( _, [- }
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747$ V* d/ e% O  }* r; T
unsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
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resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated., L% f/ W4 Q$ ?% ]! d, q( N
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
# N1 M8 O2 |5 L  b/ Vhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
7 D/ ?5 o% P4 Prelative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.; p, w& c1 N9 ]$ [# e
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove1 `) `( J/ o6 x" `% @# q0 @& H
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
7 {) b' L. L0 i2 |' nAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.   o2 u. ~, z/ t2 i& \; S
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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