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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.( a8 I$ n7 T1 M; L' o' t

9 ~" ^, ~" q6 w: H1 C; nTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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/ P7 N  `5 b$ j; Y' `The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 4 ?& K- S) ?8 a1 f4 \$ M7 M+ l- D3 v

$ E3 j. u  l' X& gNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.; \) h  ]0 }8 ?9 D
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.( r& u3 e6 D* x* x1 `$ }6 b
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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# J- @( d8 I# x9 o" x1 Q! ~5 lTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. ! l' E' T8 H, Q8 z& O3 ~

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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) Y8 ^7 W' n: j  G8 t1 n. o( k! S# ~TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
4 T* N* a" d: R! ]6 L 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。6 z  [( X0 k; s% `! d

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 6 G) ~# g4 t$ [$ }4 {* J
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了. j! F$ y& H: {( x
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton+ m! g4 L; M+ |6 |
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
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formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided4 n# Z% a4 l5 t, `0 g" f- N. S
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
" S' W# d4 p( D  W2 g- k2 pthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
7 _. k7 E3 G, C! A9 M- `may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
" {6 |  n5 w2 {2 i- kpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this  X* f" @$ e+ i, e; i
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
5 _) m8 J& ~. s2 x9 d; g( |7 [homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
2 {' y  K* O" j+ e9 o* E30,000 new households will form in the province during
" B4 c1 C5 j0 u( _2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.0 t& i. k7 ~: `7 O+ `
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
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during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals( h) n/ @5 ?# X5 A# X# S5 D- V3 g
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is; v7 i. p, k+ W0 n5 {" w
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of2 j: `( t2 A5 g8 S7 s# W8 |
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
1 M4 l: |' r3 W  z& W$ N* c$ Csales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
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two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in- s# _) B. Z( |; W6 T
unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the" p; e: `- O$ a: s+ s& k/ ?
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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$ [6 D3 h# _6 W7 ?; M" mThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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8 n5 ~6 P! T. ]# ~. Z: [Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
1 A2 n. X7 m, X- Vhousing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced) l* |  i3 W6 P7 x; w3 {
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale6 j  D! T/ H6 G/ v6 e: K
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even9 k% f# y/ @: \3 B0 e) A
though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners; \0 s$ t, m) T
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable." m" |7 _4 j" M% T" J" J- N
The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,8 w5 N7 V0 Z; @5 h1 _& n* U
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments! t$ Z. ^9 i+ }
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