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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. + r: P! J# f5 G6 [
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.   z. S/ p6 }3 ~2 L+ w
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller." h* x* J& w5 `4 s- K( k

. }, q' q, h- v! g( aTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 7 f+ j+ h$ ~7 y6 ]

" G* s$ i2 o. S, T) ]! JTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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. D2 q) a! ]6 e2 ^Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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2 S! d. t& h& n9 B& T1 E, ATD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,2 M  v0 O7 Y4 G8 u1 L

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:16 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。7 j& q3 n' }5 x) N) H% [
再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表 , q0 T% X6 O+ Y8 C# A
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

2 l1 c2 N. \9 h4 x- j很多人都回学校深造去了
2 x. \: p4 ^4 l' T4 I嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
* o5 }, Y' [! f% F0 S4 QWild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its- O* W9 D  G2 L6 v& ^4 F
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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7 G/ a) m3 t6 J: d; X3 f2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household/ h1 K$ a6 s) w+ H
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided# l: `8 z; g$ t7 b3 b
from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,6 a3 O, W" f) b2 j, h
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and" r7 X  n) c* H1 y) m: j: t) u
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous5 s5 C8 S2 _3 O5 N! _* v* p0 E
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed/ l8 X+ [4 ~* P
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
6 A# R' @# a' g" b& w5 oto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
" K8 H$ l+ h9 {' B/ Y! X! l/ m/ vprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
& B& N0 S1 j5 _$ syear in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
: g# h6 ^: C2 khomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
+ m" q$ l4 |9 f; [; \: m  A30,000 new households will form in the province during
7 b% Y7 I% q. Q2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
' g! G) B6 h" ~" VEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s/ f7 z$ g& l9 a, A* _$ H
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%" w6 s- j) w- Y: A
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
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households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is  f% X9 W& i# c; b
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of* {' o' F7 w/ q0 b( }
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a$ q7 e+ a- V6 [7 m6 _
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
9 C+ V% r7 j' a$ I0 w6 Fbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
; P0 r3 j  N, s$ b2 ~+ Q# Q5 X6 ftwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
/ K& T& U& \) Y% Y1 E' t% ~unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
' m; Z( f* q4 q9 _# @0 Wunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
& E1 b/ u8 |) l6 x4 X$ nrecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 h# i7 s: k; k4 l- R3 Iresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s3 x# I$ W# Q" D- r* E% t( A7 d
major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories1 h) f: Q$ n' M8 Q" o" ^& K$ A
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
$ p1 \' Q6 T9 [/ Q- s: {7 A2 e1 orapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
+ Z- j. s# c, f; F/ C7 zThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s1 ?0 i; o' E' B) B6 G, p1 O' m, c
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic./ P8 V+ T1 d+ `2 ^4 b4 E
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan
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relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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2 o; c, r2 E3 w. v3 K% X" Wthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners" b" R& w6 `( i1 |$ _7 \. X
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
" z9 A  k. \3 W8 |7 J" aThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
, k, Y$ W$ }1 D, W% a7 T& aresale price in February is evidence that past prices& E7 r9 y3 B$ H
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
. \6 Z/ H/ Q. |* h' yhomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’1 A  f% n# F. W. S" H
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,6 A" H! d- _9 q. Z
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%5 X( N5 @* M; `; R6 |  n" S
leg down over 2009.- k2 H! ]( i( \* ^# V
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,' W+ d! L& {+ j
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:

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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. 0 A& i3 o$ w1 e2 i" ?7 q
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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9 }8 b. \' i% I3 ^/ _$ \& h[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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