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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.' V0 i+ {! ^. s
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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. B! F  P7 E' B0 z" |; XThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. $ }. K+ z) }  q# u9 @- \" t$ L" o
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said.
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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& i. v9 l2 l4 N) q+ oTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.8 s: d9 A! W9 W0 D  q
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 2 W+ d9 G% W( n

* `% H4 B$ q+ L; ^. _9 G% QTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
8 N3 @" d/ D; a: d5 ] 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。) L5 ~0 z$ n( c0 n

. k# S2 l! a" E' V/ ?( B! {1 q( M[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
* e  |) ~. |! `: ?. }跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
8 Z" A7 E9 w( x% k. y+ D嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta& Q, {, V( ~, W* Y$ d
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its/ e/ n$ _" t3 ?& Y
boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
/ b. C: u" @2 j/ d4 [8 Zformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
- \2 ~6 Y. I! f8 G) ifrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
" O1 Y) o" s7 U& Lthe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
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pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed. B/ e9 p  E3 V9 K( O
precipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around
' ?9 p5 v5 X8 T3 G30,000 new households will form in the province during
( \/ B7 K: B5 {# r% K/ T) D2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
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homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%( U% }/ }: c! B" h$ ?
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta  M* U( Y! S, s7 D% ^" ?6 ]* p) B1 S
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging  u! T* Q4 B: s0 d( W
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
$ J0 F, G, F1 e: {4 ?. }2 x1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
5 x9 S* i; y4 T  W( t. X/ t% w; dsales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
8 j& Y  }/ l7 G+ u3 ibuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
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unsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the# v3 H4 ~, K. h1 v" Y' N  Y. u/ X
resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
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; o% v- H9 A" q& U# eThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced1 a# M$ J' h$ |' N
relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale
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( r5 }6 O; ^% R2 {The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
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$ i0 g- A6 {' M+ f/ e- Fexceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
" ^* a0 U& |6 Ehomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
8 P& `0 ]. D2 G6 H4 ]& _4 Edeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
! j$ h4 p6 \) aAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,% @# _" M# b6 A) g( \
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20% leg down over 2009.:
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. % h9 k3 w( D, y
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:19 编辑 ]
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