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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. . t' k, a# j0 |& N9 ?

5 r+ u7 O0 d9 X* H" O5 j2 VThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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; P: a/ M6 n/ M- g"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 7 I) \: O3 f; y; _% I* h. m0 E4 t* s
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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% s# L) n9 H( n% m7 _, _" D  pTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.
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2 c- i: L$ ^% lTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.5 Y4 M" s/ K( }% B2 |, m% H. ~
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. : m+ {  K- m/ s' L! b9 ~
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
4 x! O' Q( d8 M  F 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。: ], Y1 G" l1 z+ Q* d6 G

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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
, M% I: s. s! X# L# }3 [& B跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

* d% d! y; E5 K5 j3 w: {) g很多人都回学校深造去了9 K4 v; {8 z+ ^& h7 A- `
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton. z/ P( p5 c* C- E5 F  x! c
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to5 x3 s  @) m: J0 D# P9 k: \
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,
( ?" U; U, i. P+ r- p1 athe net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
2 o/ j+ _! W  X, y, l# Umay even cease completely during 2009. The previous( o5 ~" t; g* a5 v' A3 \* f! B
pace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around6 x1 q7 R: H% m  H( G$ k
30,000 new households will form in the province during2 @9 ~3 {$ h$ s" p7 L* f* o
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
8 u2 M1 B; ^" uEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
& b5 b1 {/ P& Z6 Ahomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%0 F" t1 L$ X' l2 e+ s
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta; b4 ?2 V# M! [% t; z
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
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during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging$ C* L# i0 T5 g6 o
sales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories" S8 H4 [) A" C% f/ C7 c4 h3 B. E
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is( }: W! T; y+ S" s
excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of; }( n  n+ Z# ~+ U/ j  Z
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a
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buyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
3 d) I9 n- H* I& mtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
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$ `4 s; [+ b! T; ]% ~- Gunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest( w4 j6 K7 K' w  U' K* |! h3 U
recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
1 K( n6 ]+ h9 }resale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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9 o5 g! M2 v+ d6 Z6 `of new singles, and, with demand having cooled
6 P& [- Y3 m" |4 w& r; P$ t0 Irapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
' [3 E+ D4 o1 c& L9 h6 WThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
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1 G" @- \- e0 F% z# ?: GAlthough income growth was very strong, Albertan) \! H: s1 @4 O4 H$ o% Y' m
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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+ K; b' R6 `( G2 i+ Wprices substantially eroded affordability and, even
( c9 s* r, B9 d2 r5 k- dthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners8 p% t6 I5 T6 ]4 X2 Y* M
on average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
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resale price in February is evidence that past prices4 K& U# h- H# A. U. k4 v  H2 ?
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove7 J! M1 X' X6 U- _/ |
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
: I5 s8 T% X8 ^4 K2 Tdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
# \8 d. u3 A; N9 X) [8 D, IAlberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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. H" ^# b( X1 m9 Rhttp://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments/ \# `' S$ }  T& q# u8 U3 y5 [3 c/ z

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