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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.
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5 i1 P. ?. R: ~1 L8 v" yTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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, a. c$ y8 x' T3 R6 q4 L0 K& eThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding.
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: E$ M' g' c/ |4 J6 A' I' M"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. ' ^' P; F6 z: @1 B+ K
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.  H. L  p& [# P
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. 7 n1 v7 {6 ~4 m9 D- E4 [: y

# p: P9 D1 u, y5 k/ c$ r6 gTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.  \( c( `$ W7 A7 o, ?
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. + ^' [1 F. t% i+ I% x3 i/ r
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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, }! |  L8 D% S: n6 l9 mTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,- d8 B9 f; \, n5 {9 z
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
# }& ^: S* W$ V: q, o$ { 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。  O+ n0 b$ b) \. V
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[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
  d. y' u4 z/ E7 o2 _3 W) @% m4 K跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

" h" ?' y$ Y3 d! {" F0 l- p很多人都回学校深造去了% A) N3 N. T. u- G  x+ m! h$ ^7 w
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta# X9 R; M4 u* q# p* X
Wild Rose country was overbuilt substantially during its
: g7 h# `1 o  \/ E; r* [0 g$ Qboom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton, e3 Z1 w4 M" u( c2 \  o0 Z! P
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to
; L% b7 B: q- h# i. j$ e1 W2 y2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household
2 u3 l0 H$ {3 X2 f4 K, c' _( Z& iformation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
3 X& c7 ~" H; ufrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,1 q2 W, j6 P- J$ I/ I! {
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and
3 k4 z' b9 F9 y/ ?; n$ i- u! Umay even cease completely during 2009. The previous
) l7 {8 \$ O0 ^3 \8 \7 R8 r9 Qpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
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to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year( d. r! c$ q3 E1 i
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this
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' h- C6 E5 L) B  z( Q  lhomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around3 V6 C% f4 U  z% \4 l0 }) t3 r
30,000 new households will form in the province during1 q. J5 V% L/ z! o6 C9 ^% _
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
5 x3 R' c, ^, B# G. N6 JEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s8 f2 `$ z. B2 i# i8 r1 z
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%$ N7 M- y/ S0 `4 ]: k
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta: `. F  B( Z7 P- |# |
has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
4 q0 _& Y1 e4 Q; z0 Shouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals
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/ v& L. z; y# hexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of
2 e2 @4 X3 y: q  g6 H* i+ j' @1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a6 K; o# D: s& c/ n5 e
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
: w( l6 [: p( U$ D8 jbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
. }' R9 C2 h& m. R  }* f+ o4 b! Ptwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
& `4 J4 ?2 @8 r6 lunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
3 U2 o1 u7 G" F3 c& z+ Vunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
2 ^# }- T) ]8 precorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
! r* y* z2 h" j# F" y  r! \0 O% ]; eresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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; I: s" H1 Q" U: e% trapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
% H: B9 T' W. U; f7 XThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s) _! m/ ~: G% ~
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.! v, q) R$ p8 K, C3 ~! x+ k$ k8 y
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan& K/ V4 Z5 r* _' y# O6 B
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
- D9 [+ K! j, L" n$ x" xthough Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average9 ~3 J8 E; C. J! f6 ?8 Z2 P
resale price in February is evidence that past prices
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homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
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leg down over 2009.1 |2 {3 R8 r* @
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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