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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.' p) p( D5 `0 M* _4 g# E3 X

1 x( _) z- A" [2 G2 y) hTD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak. ( R; I3 k- \: w. W# V; Q

. K# H. \0 V: v. G% yThe report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. # m+ r: Q" T3 m& t/ z
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"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 8 ~! H0 p6 i$ S% A+ h

. n- R/ u. Z+ s8 N- P. t! tNow, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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$ C) |' s6 u3 `8 \4 kTD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said.   [/ U0 Q0 T# |7 j

. U, q0 r' Q; S2 [* l4 zTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.$ Z9 {! @" o, T
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008.
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6 Q6 h& Z- @2 X3 M2 B( U3 Lhttp://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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% n! C  I5 s4 B; X6 @6 oTD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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. G" b5 G* f+ R[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
/ p$ }  g6 G; J) f 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。8 ]) n" E# ]6 n( ~2 |% H( V' E

. q0 R, O8 _" f) ?1 m! i[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
: F6 j$ `+ P/ F3 p5 t: T! l. Z跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...
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很多人都回学校深造去了
1 q) B+ i+ z' e, P( S嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton3 T8 ~5 z! u. g( L; G3 U+ t
are cause for concern. Indeed, even over 1991 to# P+ u1 J" B) _% ]
2001, housing starts in Alberta had already overshot household, l) [" t+ \2 f! W+ }7 y4 O
formation by 12%. With oil prices having subsided
0 w; \% S; y, R% p( X- [! Zfrom their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,* H% D8 }, O6 R5 Z0 }
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and  M& q; N7 b# r* l9 I
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
+ u1 }* F. J. C- L/ Vpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
# l4 u. n3 Z) f# vprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined
: X8 d6 }0 x+ f( kto 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year
5 u# H! u' d8 R( }: M# w7 Tprior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this6 E) w' o& u0 P
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,
7 Z) n" |3 f- H! g& e2 e1 y! Khomebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around  ^/ k+ b9 q+ A3 s
30,000 new households will form in the province during
- d! Y* A% ^. J& I4 R2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.
. n0 y! d8 K% a/ A, z1 YEven accounting for the population inflows, the province’s
. |- J( O3 y% W* |/ F/ xhomebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%9 x/ x/ l" m) z) `  f
during the commodity boom. From 1991 to 2006, Alberta
# {) f# D7 c+ Khas approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new
: f8 l5 q* P6 q$ Jhouseholds, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals, q% G$ @* Q. Q! q# u' `4 Q$ ~
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
! `! G- l' I0 isales-to-new listings ratios and mounting unsold inventories! ~. K/ j; `6 V3 f; o& k9 G3 }
clearly indicate that the present stock of homes is
" A& U+ e- y, l5 {. [; Z* N2 h# ?$ Wexcessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of/ t3 `" B' F6 T+ ^
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a: m$ [# a, ]0 h( I$ e- I
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
. X, A% q, E" d6 \, k. i+ O2 N0 jbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in3 n9 b: r7 S7 s" C* n2 w" e; P
two decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
, P/ R- A  J1 }& S. t5 Kunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
$ y+ Z/ u. |) K3 Z$ \5 Hunsold units (1,254 singles and 493 multiples) – its largest
' g% d# L, n" ?9 P( z5 V$ O& X9 R# X  krecorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
5 k$ f6 j* P6 a1 ^, B4 a! Hresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
$ U& t& y) i1 ^major cities, homebuilders have worrisome unsold inventories4 Y# X2 `) q8 n; a5 u% t. A
of new singles, and, with demand having cooled$ D: D! @+ S' A
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.
) Z* o; z/ m6 R6 P6 gThe steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s
( }! I9 d% h+ Mboom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.) C) D* Y7 d+ c! s: c
Although income growth was very strong, Albertan7 v9 O5 q9 g4 Z0 s
housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
$ H  J0 R( M( `1 I) {relative to fundamentals. The quick climb of Albertan resale8 W$ @" k( ~" h5 O
prices substantially eroded affordability and, even
0 m) ]8 d4 ?' v1 I' m; \though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
5 w" E8 y, ~* I1 Non average, the growth in household income was not sustainable.
; ~5 ]; P  `$ p" s) ~! IThe 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
) f, r# \: L9 k/ H, uresale price in February is evidence that past prices
- i% ]: L" `6 k, ]exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove
- x2 d3 [1 U% K; phomebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’
  J) }1 u' F2 ]0 W( ^% d; k8 vdeteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,+ ~3 t% n  n; j3 n- J
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:14 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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) d3 b2 q0 \* Z; s9 W* c1 j[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now. ! n: [7 B- D; u. t' l2 q; \
翻译:brainless=没脑子=猪脑分子
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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