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ZT:Average home price will fall to $246,000 in '09: TD

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发表于 2009-4-8 21:38 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Canadian house prices have further to fall, while overbuilding in the residential market, particularly in the Prairies, will prevent the sector from making a quick recovery from the current downturn in sales, prices and construction, according to a report by TD Economics.) p% J( p1 {! o
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TD economists expect the average Canadian house price to fall to about $246,000 in 2009, down 24% from the peak of $324,000 in 2007. As of February, the average nation-wide house price stood at $282,000, down 13% from its peak.
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The report, released Tuesday, found house prices had been overshooting their fundamental value by about 9% since 2005 as speculation drove up prices and encouraged overbuilding. 4 J3 K2 u0 y+ q, R2 S

! V" R$ u4 U! m0 }- v. u& m; E"Declines in prices are now returning to fundamental-justified values. We estimate this process to be roughly half done, both in terms of time and value adjustments," the report said. 9 @$ ?1 r  U7 {' \' _! Y% k6 N- D8 Y
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Now, as housing prices correct, the economists believe the excess supply of housing in the market will continue to weigh on the sector throughout 2009. However, Canada will avoid a U.S.-style housing crash because the oversupply of housing is much smaller.
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' d$ [5 K6 A3 F4 ^TD estimates the overhang of residential homes in the Canadian market is equal to about three month's supply, compared to about 10 months in the United States. As a result of the overhang combined with low prices, housing construction would likely remain 20% below its potential level and fall to 125,000 in 2009 and increase slightly to 135,000 in 2010. In September 2007, new homes were being constructed at a seasonally adjusted annualized rate of 273,000.' e% N' ^& I% x7 g4 k. E( S2 `
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"A glut in the housing stock means that builders will have to rein in residential construction further -- particularly in the most overbuilt markets. As well, excess inventories in certain markets will prove an additional drag on home prices," it said. ; i. P8 a; A) N# b$ N0 a6 }
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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes, while the overhang of supply in Saskatoon's was at a historical high. Montreal also had a growing inventory of unsold condos and apartments. Toronto and Vancouver have so far avoided a major oversupply in inventories, however TD said the large number of condos under construction in both cities raised the possibility of mounting oversupply this year.
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Meanwhile, lower interest rates and house prices have helped housing become slightly more affordable. TD said mortgage payments cost the consumer about 34% of an average household income in 2007, compared with 22% in 2000. This rate is predicted to have fallen to 32% in 2008. / k, d7 X- j' n6 R* {
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http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.html?id=1474575
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发表于 2009-4-8 21:40 | 显示全部楼层

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TD said Calgary and Edmonton had accumulated "worrisome" inventories of unsold single family homes,
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[ 本帖最后由 宋兵乙 于 2009-4-8 22:45 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-8 22:35 | 显示全部楼层
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跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用做房奴了,都可以轻松呼吸着这里新鲜的空气,享受着这里竞争不太激烈的生活,退休了回中国住半年,这里半年。对了,中国的房子千万不要着急出手,否者退休后回国没有房子住了,到时候小心回国也买不起了。呵呵。
! q4 \6 h0 `+ B9 C 再说了:听说大家都抢房子的时候是三年前,那时候的专业工作容易找,来的早的买到便宜的房子,一般的townhouse13-16万,现在则18-25万。今非昔比,如今很多人都回学校深造去了,除非经济危机短期能够回转,否者房价应该回到三年前再跌个5、6万的。
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! J) h( I4 }( d, S4 F6 s. d[ 本帖最后由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:54 编辑 ]
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发表于 2009-4-9 09:28 | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 茶水 于 2009-4-8 23:35 发表
3 b9 T0 K& q0 l2 ~5 i/ @: P跟toronto的平均房价36万比起来,edmonton应该再跌一些,虽然中国和加拿大不同,中国发展的不如加拿大均衡,但还是有可以借鉴的地方,比如说中国沈阳的房价能和上海比吗?如果能跌到24万!哈哈!我们一般的打工族不用 ...

( w) }$ I, M; y很多人都回学校深造去了3 R2 I5 }  y# N0 n
嘿嘿嘿嘿。我也是被迫深造去了。
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:10 | 显示全部楼层

TD Special Report节选

Alberta
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boom years, and mounting inventories in Calgary and Edmonton
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from their fever pitch and expansion projects now on hold,! X! X% e, a3 o/ t
the net inflow of migrants has slowed dramatically and' u2 H& U) f0 m9 Z; m# r, W7 e
may even cease completely during 2009. The previous
+ D; r9 ~: [( w' W+ fpace of homebuilding could not be sustained and slowed
# K. ^4 O7 D$ R8 Nprecipitously during the fall. Alberta’s starts further declined$ e2 Z  L. F1 u* l1 P5 }
to 13,100 units in February, 61% lower than a year  q6 i' H: k1 ?
prior. With Alberta’s economy set to contract by 2.5% this$ d/ R8 l) G$ h
year in real terms and roughly 10% in nominal terms,/ v: m/ ]  J. Z$ i, E2 U
homebuilding has likely not yet bottomed. While around; k* m1 O1 _# x* o& \
30,000 new households will form in the province during& e. f4 w8 C, L( s
2009, starts are likely to be nearer 14,000 units on the year.2 b& ^; K: h- ?2 N
Even accounting for the population inflows, the province’s1 O' w; h$ B8 \: P
homebuilding overshot fundamentals by nearly 10%
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has approximately 72,000 more housing starts than new  |' X( M- L7 {% E) _
households, and the estimated 13% overshoot of fundamentals8 z, \1 ]7 \1 t' V) B6 D
during 2002-2008 exhibits this excess. Now, plunging
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excessive. As of February, Calgary had an overhang of( U9 f6 W" b; R& x. a3 {7 b7 g9 t
1,133 unsold units (874 singles and 259 multiples) and a2 W  w& F+ S; ?- U0 i' O
sales-to-new listings ratio of 0.29, indicative of a definitive
5 N' y: A# U; x3 wbuyer’s market, having now fallen to its lowest value in
1 U: z- Z$ K! S* l  Y: t# Vtwo decades. Similarly alarming is Edmonton’s surge in
: _# _! |; v" @* q! eunsold inventories. As of December, Edmonton had 1,747
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recorded overhang ever – and conditions for sellers in the
2 @2 `6 Y4 d4 J4 Q& Tresale market have deteriorated sharply. In both of Alberta’s
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of new singles, and, with demand having cooled# T3 Y3 k+ L, I  I4 Q$ ^
rapidly, resale markets already appear saturated.: [0 \8 o" d6 Q+ Y/ g* X
The steep appreciation of house prices during Alberta’s% g5 l% m6 X  G
boom times now appears to have been far too optimistic.
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housing during 2007 and 2008 was especially overpriced
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though Albertans were Canada’s highest income earners
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The 9% year-over-year decline in Alberta’s average
: u' c" x% m8 m% p3 _resale price in February is evidence that past prices- R1 V5 L- J6 L( R* c6 o1 f) u, W
exceeded fundamentals. Those inflated prices drove# }; R3 {) |  y5 E6 _5 b  Z# c6 O
homebuilding in excess of fundamentals. Given Albertans’/ F' W( [. v, D
deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,* u' e# R/ {/ _+ H
Alberta’s resale prices probably have another 20%
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:11 | 显示全部楼层
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Given Albertans’deteriorating incomes and the overhangs of unsold inventories,
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[ 本帖最后由 依勒特 于 2009-4-9 11:15 编辑 ]
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:13 | 显示全部楼层
同胞们,底就要来到了。打起精神,准备抄底!
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 楼主| 发表于 2009-4-9 10:17 | 显示全部楼层
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Yup, and you would be simply manipulated and brainless if you purchased right now.
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http://www.greaterfool.ca/2009/04/07/hot-bothered/#comments
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发表于 2009-4-9 10:30 | 显示全部楼层
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